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Title: MSD pill numbers
Post by: hotrod56cars on February 01, 2008, 10:19:44 AM
I stumbled on this...

MSD - RPM pills/Ohms
3000 - 1930
3200 - 2084
3200 - 2086
6000 - 4590
6100 - 4700
6300 - 4910
6400 - 5010
6400 - 5020
6500 - 5130
6700 - 5350
6800 - 5460
6900 - 5570
7000 - 5690
7400 - 6150
Now you can make your own.
Title: Re: MSD pill numbers
Post by: speedymopars on February 01, 2008, 10:21:50 AM
What, you don't like spending $50 on a $.01 resistor?

Title: Re: MSD pill numbers
Post by: hotrod56cars on February 01, 2008, 10:29:19 AM
What, you don't like spending $50 on a $.01 resistor?



You could have said... What, you don't like spending $50?  :D

Anyway, it didn't suggest the wattage of resistor required. Go big, it'll be cheap.
Title: Re: MSD pill numbers
Post by: 2savage4you on February 01, 2008, 10:36:46 AM
What, you don't like spending $50 on a $.01 resistor?




I dont get it ???

2sav
Title: Re: MSD pill numbers
Post by: speedymopars on February 01, 2008, 11:25:49 AM
The MSD pills are resistors. Resistors in quanitity are about 10 to the penny. MSD charges ~$50 for a set of pills, which are pretty 1/4 watt resistors.

For the power requirement, that is easy enough -

E=IR

or in this case use a little algabra  -

E/R=I

so

12Volts/1930 OHMS = .0062 Amps

Amps * Volts = Watts

.0062 * 12 V = .074 Watts

So in theory, an 1/8th Watt resistor could work (.125W) - but you usually (at least) double for guardbanding.

Keep in mind the 1930 ohm resistor would draw the most current - the higher RPM pills would draw even less.




Title: Re: MSD pill numbers
Post by: GAWnCA on February 01, 2008, 11:58:26 AM
I doubt that you'll find that exact value (1930) in a resistor.  You can go 1.8K or 2K and keep in mind there is a +/- 5% shift possible.
Title: Re: MSD pill numbers
Post by: 2savage4you on February 01, 2008, 12:04:22 PM
The MSD pills are resistors. Resistors in quanitity are about 10 to the penny. MSD charges ~$50 for a set of pills, which are pretty 1/4 watt resistors.

For the power requirement, that is easy enough -

E=IR

or in this case use a little algabra  -

E/R=I

so

12Volts/1930 OHMS = .0062 Amps

Amps * Volts = Watts

.0062 * 12 V = .074 Watts

So in theory, an 1/8th Watt resistor could work (.125W) - but you usually (at least) double for guardbanding.

Keep in mind the 1930 ohm resistor would draw the most current - the higher RPM pills would draw even less.







Got it ;)

Thanks 2sav
Title: Re: MSD pill numbers
Post by: Josh@JBP on February 01, 2008, 03:34:05 PM
Now that we know the resistance ranges, it wouldn't be had to make an adjustable pill, like the one MSD offers.



.....wow just typed in a google search to find a pic of the pill MSD offers and acidently found a how to on making one, enjoy http://www.corral.net/tech/powerplant/arm/
Title: Re: MSD pill numbers
Post by: speedymopars on February 01, 2008, 07:31:03 PM
I doubt that you'll find that exact value (1930) in a resistor.  You can go 1.8K or 2K and keep in mind there is a +/- 5% shift possible.

Good point. You can get a 1% resistor, but those that aren't EE's or Physicist don't realize - everything in electronics is an approximate. 1930 ohms is the calculated value, not nessasarly the exact one. Close enough is a way of life.
Title: Re: MSD pill numbers
Post by: GAWnCA on February 01, 2008, 08:08:05 PM
Good point. You can get a 1% resistor, but those that aren't EE's or Physicist don't realize - everything in electronics is an approximate. 1930 ohms is the calculated value, not nessasarly the exact one. Close enough is a way of life.

I figure a 2K 1/4 watt would do the job nicely.  Better to be a little high than low and burn out something.
Title: Re: MSD pill numbers
Post by: speedymopars on February 02, 2008, 08:55:59 AM
only if you want the rev limiter to come on at 3K...otherwise you need a larger value...
Title: Re: MSD pill numbers
Post by: HDriderTH on February 02, 2008, 09:43:49 AM
so....you could just wire in a variable resister and mark your favorite limts on the dial.
Title: Re: MSD pill numbers
Post by: GAWnCA on February 02, 2008, 10:28:47 AM
only if you want the rev limiter to come on at 3K...otherwise you need a larger value...

I was just using the 2K as an example.  Meaning I was rounding up from the 1930 ohm.  Hell you can buy these resistors from Jameco . Com for around a penny a piece.  Problem is you have to buy 100 at a time.  Group buy???  LOL :D :D
Title: Re: MSD pill numbers
Post by: HDriderTH on February 02, 2008, 10:43:45 AM
I was just using the 2K as an example.  Meaning I was rounding up from the 1930 ohm.  Hell you can buy these resistors from Jameco . Com for around a penny a piece.  Problem is you have to buy 100 at a time.  Group buy???  LOL :D :D


How many of us would it take to come up w/ a buck?
Title: Re: MSD pill numbers
Post by: GAWnCA on February 02, 2008, 11:08:07 AM

How many of us would it take to come up w/ a buck?

Hmmm,  From what I've read maybe 30 or 40 of us.  LMAO!!!   :D :D :D :D
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