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Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: bac Tahiti on June 29, 2015, 10:28:10 PM

Title: NEW Holley 850 ISSUE
Post by: bac Tahiti on June 29, 2015, 10:28:10 PM
Have a stock 460 with new 850 cfm 7481 mechanical secondaries.  Idles and  runs ok at 3500 rpm but if i step on it, bogging.  Suggestions please.
 On vacation on the water but not running right.  :(

Title: Re: NEW Holley 850 ISSUE
Post by: tunnels on June 29, 2015, 10:38:18 PM
Are the secondary butterflies opening all the way, what's your timing at, are your floats set right. Good places to start.
Title: Re: NEW Holley 850 ISSUE
Post by: GT Jets on June 29, 2015, 11:49:00 PM
Pull a plug and post a pic.

More often than not, they will be lean at the top end.

I recommend picking up a 4.5 power valve and some fatter jets.

What's the list number on your carburetor?

GT
Title: Re: NEW Holley 850 ISSUE
Post by: SS-201 on June 30, 2015, 11:35:39 PM
Second on the 4.5 try 77 front 87 rear
Title: Re: NEW Holley 850 ISSUE
Post by: bac Tahiti on July 12, 2015, 06:35:21 PM
Here is a pic.  I did purchase a 750 with vac secondaries and it runs much better. Still only doing 4,300 rpms @ 43 miles per hour 21' Boss Day cruiser.  Your thoughts?
Title: Re: NEW Holley 850 ISSUE
Post by: GT Jets on July 12, 2015, 06:58:13 PM
Holy never seize Batman!

Is that with the 750 or the 850? How long/did it idle?

GT
Title: Re: NEW Holley 850 ISSUE
Post by: Ecm101 on July 12, 2015, 07:03:54 PM
Whoa!!! Stop running it!!! You need a lot more fuel!!! That is way lean!!!


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Title: Re: NEW Holley 850 ISSUE
Post by: bac Tahiti on July 12, 2015, 07:18:21 PM
It idled for a minute or too.  Parked the boat...  850.
Title: Re: NEW Holley 850 ISSUE
Post by: GT Jets on July 12, 2015, 07:24:20 PM
It idled for a minute or too.  Parked the boat...  850.

Plug reading at idle is pretty useless.. IMO

GT
Title: Re: NEW Holley 850 ISSUE
Post by: bac Tahiti on July 12, 2015, 07:25:14 PM
Sorry.
Title: Re: NEW Holley 850 ISSUE
Post by: GT Jets on July 12, 2015, 07:28:04 PM
Sorry.


HAhaha.. For what?
Title: Re: NEW Holley 850 ISSUE
Post by: bac Tahiti on July 12, 2015, 07:34:25 PM
I wish i wouldn't of idled after the run...  not sure what the jetting is but national carburetor told me 850 was to big. I couldn't wait for the jets so, i purchased a 750 non marine to get me buy.  Vacation is not time to have issues.  :-)
Title: Re: NEW Holley 850 ISSUE
Post by: GT Jets on July 12, 2015, 07:44:07 PM
I wish i wouldn't of idled after the run...  not sure what the jetting is but national carburetor told me 850 was to big. I couldn't wait for the jets so, i purchased a 750 non marine to get me buy.  Vacation is not time to have issues.  :-)

True that... National carburetor? Who the heck are they?
Title: Re: NEW Holley 850 ISSUE
Post by: H20Nut21Bahner on July 12, 2015, 08:07:12 PM
I wish i wouldn't of idled after the run...  not sure what the jetting is but national carburetor told me 850 was to big. I couldn't wait for the jets so, i purchased a 750 non marine to get me buy.  Vacation is not time to have issues.  :-)
Want to sell the 850?
Title: Re: NEW Holley 850 ISSUE
Post by: bac Tahiti on July 12, 2015, 08:13:53 PM
Look them up. :-)  the 850 is new and i'm working with them to figure out issue.  Calling them tomorrow.
Your thoughts on adding j-tubes to the 750?

The 850may be for sale.:-)
Title: Re: NEW Holley 850 ISSUE
Post by: H20Nut21Bahner on July 12, 2015, 09:20:27 PM
If you decide to sell the 850, shoot me a message
Title: Re: NEW Holley 850 ISSUE
Post by: jet fever on July 12, 2015, 10:38:26 PM
Is the 750 vacuum secondaries?  Those are usually more forgiving to engine size application. 
How did you set the floats on the 850?
850 is huge for stock 460 but shouldnt cut out sounds like lack of fuel
Go back and start over
Step#1 set floats remove sight plug loosen lock screw turn adjusting nut until fuel level is at bottom of sight plug hole.  Clockwise lowers counter raises fuel level
Step#2 set "Curb Idle" turn idle screw 1-1/2 turns from having the plates seated in the bores is a good rough setting. 
Secondary idle speed adjustment is 1/2 to 1 turn away from plates seated in the bore.
Fast idle adjustment is made with fast-idle screw on highest step of the fast-idle cam.  Clearance between the primary throttle plate and the throttle bore should be 0.025 inch.
Title: Re: NEW Holley 850 ISSUE
Post by: bac Tahiti on July 18, 2015, 10:03:25 PM
Thank you for your help.
Title: Re: NEW Holley 850 ISSUE
Post by: GT Jets on July 18, 2015, 11:27:21 PM
So, looking into National Carburetors, IDK bro.... Seems very Auto Zonish to me.......

Not hatin', but not likin' much either.   :sly:
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