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Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: eaglerider94 on August 20, 2010, 06:35:08 AM

Title: No fuel flow
Post by: eaglerider94 on August 20, 2010, 06:35:08 AM
So I reinstalled one of the fuel tanks, connected the new fuel lines of equal length from both tanks to the T valve and ran it to the "mechanical" fuel pump which now is not pumping fuel. Mind you this new fuel filter had water in it before I removed all of the fuel and cleaned the tanks. The odd thing is I ran the tanks separately and it pumped fine. Now with both hooked up there is no fuel flowing to the filter.  :banghead:
Could it be this new fuel filter was damaged although I don't see how if I successfully ran both tanks separately and fuel flowed thru? 
I am able to keep the engine running as long as I keep the carb's float filled all the while no fuel is being drawn from the tanks.

My next step is to disconnect the high pressure line and see if there is blockage from the pump to the Quadrajet carb.
Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: No fuel flow
Post by: GT Jets on August 20, 2010, 08:21:46 AM
Could have some crap stuck in the valves of the pump.

Can you blow backward into the fuel line? That is a pretty funny test but will tell you if both valves are stuck open...

Did you prime the fuel filter?

Mechanical pumps can take forever and a day to start pumping fuel if totally dry..

GT
Title: Re: No fuel flow
Post by: eaglerider94 on August 20, 2010, 08:28:59 AM
GT,
I didn't prime it although that came to mind shortly after posting. What is the best way to prime, running fuel into the high pressure side?
also not sure what you mean by blowing backwards into the fuel pump. Isn't there a diaphragm which could rip?
Title: Re: No fuel flow
Post by: GreatLakes Jet on August 20, 2010, 09:23:30 AM
i think glen meant to blow in your fuel line back to the tank to see if any blockage. what type of fuel filter do you have in line ??? me  i useally pull the fuel line at the pump and apply air in the gas fill. just alittle air not much then wait for the fuel to come out then hook it up to the fuel pump good luck
Title: Re: No fuel flow
Post by: eaglerider94 on August 20, 2010, 12:45:37 PM
i think glen meant to blow in your fuel line back to the tank to see if any blockage. what type of fuel filter do you have in line ??? me  i useally pull the fuel line at the pump and apply air in the gas fill. just alittle air not much then wait for the fuel to come out then hook it up to the fuel pump good luck

Got it I'll try although there shouldn't be any blockage since I cleaned the tanks and the engine ran fine with the tanks hooked up individually. It does appear to be related to priming as Glen suggested. 
Title: Re: No fuel flow
Post by: lbhsbz on August 20, 2010, 01:24:31 PM
Did you put gas in the tanks?
Title: Re: No fuel flow
Post by: GT Jets on August 20, 2010, 01:31:17 PM
Did you put gas in the tanks?


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Title: Re: No fuel flow
Post by: eaglerider94 on August 20, 2010, 04:28:34 PM
Thanks guys but they both have gas in them. I can't work on them today as I've got to prioritize on home projects but I'll let you know the outcome. Hopefully, it's as simple as priming the fuel pump.
Title: Re: No fuel flow
Post by: Oldsquirt on August 20, 2010, 06:11:17 PM
So I reinstalled one of the fuel tanks, connected the new fuel lines of equal length from both tanks to the T valve and ran it to the "mechanical" fuel pump which now is not pumping fuel. Mind you this new fuel filter had water in it before I removed all of the fuel and cleaned the tanks. The odd thing is I ran the tanks separately and it pumped fine. Now with both hooked up there is no fuel flowing to the filter.  :banghead:
 

Are you referring to the brass type fuel selector valve or something else? Those brass valves are available in 2 configurations: 3-way and 4-way. The 3-way has "left", "right" and "both" settings. The 4-way has left, right, both and OFF. Is it possible you have the 4-way and have inadvertently set it to the "OFF" position? IIRC, the "both" tanks setting would be with the short end of the handle facing the outlet of valve.
Title: Re: No fuel flow
Post by: GT Jets on August 20, 2010, 06:26:00 PM
Are you referring to the brass type fuel selector valve or something else? Those brass valves are available in 2 configurations: 3-way and 4-way. The 3-way has "left", "right" and "both" settings. The 4-way has left, right, both and OFF. Is it possible you have the 4-way and have inadvertently set it to the "OFF" position? IIRC, the "both" tanks setting would be with the short end of the handle facing the outlet of valve.


Blowing through the fuel line will answer this in a heartbeat.... :thumbup:
Title: Re: No fuel flow
Post by: eaglerider94 on August 20, 2010, 07:20:54 PM
Are you referring to the brass type fuel selector valve or something else? Those brass valves are available in 2 configurations: 3-way and 4-way. The 3-way has "left", "right" and "both" settings. The 4-way has left, right, both and OFF. Is it possible you have the 4-way and have inadvertently set it to the "OFF" position? IIRC, the "both" tanks setting would be with the short end of the handle facing the outlet of valve.

It's a brass 3-way T connection, no selection.
Title: Re: No fuel flow
Post by: eaglerider94 on August 20, 2010, 07:22:57 PM

Blowing through the fuel line will answer this in a heartbeat.... :thumbup:

Glen,
I'll take your advice to blow the line, then prime the pump. Hope it works. I'll let ya know what I find.
Title: Re: No fuel flow
Post by: eaglerider94 on September 09, 2010, 02:59:04 PM
Could have some crap stuck in the valves of the pump.

Can you blow backward into the fuel line? That is a pretty funny test but will tell you if both valves are stuck open...

Did you prime the fuel filter?

Mechanical pumps can take forever and a day to start pumping fuel if totally dry..

GT

It's been a while since my last post about this but I finally got around to priming the fuel pump and she started up although I could see lots of bad looking fuel running thru the filter and because there wasn't much fuel in both tanks I ran the engine until all of the fuel was consumed. I then filled both tanks with a few gallons of fresh fuel and she now runs beautifully. Thanks for everyone's help.  :)
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