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Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: Luckie Stiff on September 05, 2007, 10:00:31 PM

Title: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: Luckie Stiff on September 05, 2007, 10:00:31 PM
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 :o :o :o
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: pw_Tony on September 05, 2007, 10:54:46 PM
OWWW!
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: h2oicon on September 05, 2007, 11:07:39 PM
ouch that will hurt in the morning, hey by the way dont scratch my boat ;D
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: DelawareDave on September 06, 2007, 02:59:31 AM
I imagine it was running a bit rough?
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: flytime on September 06, 2007, 07:29:40 AM
Not good Skip. Not good. Off to the parts store we go.
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: Ralph Brunt on September 06, 2007, 07:33:39 AM
that's gunna hurt the wallet :-[
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: Intolerance on September 06, 2007, 07:46:06 AM
Thats a piece of art!
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: AA/Paul on September 06, 2007, 07:49:03 AM
Hopefully it happened at the end of the weekend.
How did the block and head look? Are they savable?
Bummer !!!! >:(
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: Luckie Stiff on September 06, 2007, 08:49:27 AM
Ralph, you're right about the wallet part! Supposedly this engine had less than 1 hour on a fresh rebuild, yeah right, look at the pan contents

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Looks like the piston skirt might have been the cause of it, or maybe it's just another victim

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anybody handy at repairing Dooley oil pans?

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because one hole just wasn't enough, here's the other side of the pan

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and to top it all off, the errant rod is off the crank, and the engine is still siezed solid!

Oh well, now I have something to do this winter  ::)
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: Ralph Brunt on September 06, 2007, 09:18:35 AM
sounds like a good time to build a stroker motor
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: UNDONE on September 06, 2007, 09:22:57 AM
agreed Ralph! Maybe some H beamers.... ;D

Wow that's a painful sight...
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: Luckie Stiff on September 06, 2007, 09:29:47 AM
Ralph, you being a Ford man, what would you recommend for a rebuild? I'm not looking for a top fuel engine, I'm actually more interested in reliability first, a little performance 2nd
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: Ralph Brunt on September 06, 2007, 09:41:06 AM
it all depends on what you want and how much you want to spend. a good stroker assy is about 15-1900$ then the machine work. dont get me wrong its not cheep but neither is another motor.
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: hotrod56cars on September 06, 2007, 09:50:44 AM
That suks.

Break
Out
Another
Thousand

I've got 2 BBC pans that look like that, I'm out of gas so I haven't tried to fix them yet.
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: UNDONE on September 06, 2007, 10:07:00 AM
I'll try to dig up a recipe I had for a 500HP 460, if you've already got the block and crank I think the parts list came out to $2000
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: Luckie Stiff on September 06, 2007, 10:24:17 AM
assuming that my block, crank, pistons etc are good can I get another set of rods, have the whole enchilada balanced
& use this all for a rebuild, or am I asking for trouble?
Thanks again guys for all your help, advice, comments, this place reminds me of hotrodding before it got mainstream
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: UNDONE on September 06, 2007, 10:26:00 AM
New pistons and rods are definitely a need. Before you make a decision on what need or need not be replaced you need to find out what caused the problem.
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: akakiller on September 06, 2007, 10:51:11 AM
musta been why it wouldn't run the other day on the phone eh?!

put a stocker in it till you get the boat motor built...
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: Ralph Brunt on September 06, 2007, 11:03:44 AM
cheep is'nt good and good is'nt cheeeeeeeep
that being said i would build one motor one time
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: 2savage4you on September 06, 2007, 11:34:16 AM
cheep is'nt good and good is'nt cheeeeeeeep
that being said i would build one motor one time






+1 ;D



2sav
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: akakiller on September 06, 2007, 02:18:01 PM
it don't matter either way... he's gonna blow the next one up too!

hahahahaha!!!!


 O0

cheep is'nt good and good is'nt cheeeeeeeep
that being said i would build one motor one time
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: GlassCutter on September 06, 2007, 02:59:43 PM
Hey ak . . . that's a great way to start off on the right foot. Remind me not to pick you to be on my team at recess.
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: Ralph Brunt on September 06, 2007, 03:18:07 PM
it don't matter either way... he's gonna blow the next one up too!

hahahahaha!!!!


 O0

daaaaaaaamn, i take it you know skip
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: Luckie Stiff on September 06, 2007, 03:20:15 PM
I'm going with Ralph on this one, I'm not a huge fan of pulling engines much less putting them back in! Don't let akakiller bother you guys, he's one of my best friends, he's the one that told me about this place, make him show y'all a picture of his boat, I'm a little jealous of it. That being said, I found a local reutable shop with a really nice guy for an owner, I've seen his personal boat so I know he can build stuff that runs like a raped ape, AND holds together for more than one or two seasons.

Skip

See you guys in Castaic on Sunday?
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: Ralph Brunt on September 06, 2007, 04:13:40 PM
Skip before you pull the trigger on your engine (builder) do some research www.460ford.com
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: Luckie Stiff on September 06, 2007, 05:14:39 PM
Here's a pic of Killer's boat on his favorite lake.

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Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: akakiller on September 06, 2007, 05:20:44 PM
hell yeah, thats the one... Mama comes out and we make rhumba! noises... then I spray her with the garden hose for awhile... then we go back inside!

saves gas that way!

hahahahahahaha!

 O0

I like that afro dude.

Yes I've known Uncle Skippy for a very long time and I just can't help but poke fun at him... he did the same when I was lying in the parking lot in Bakersfield swapping center sections in my 56 Chevy...

Uncle Skippy is the only man I know who can scare up a center section for a 56 Chevy... in under an hour... for $50!!!

Please don't make too much fun of my boat... even though it has a transmission in it, its still fun!
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on September 06, 2007, 05:40:27 PM
good lookin floater  O0
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: flytime on September 06, 2007, 10:20:28 PM

See you guys in Castaic on Sunday?

Absolutley see us on Sunday. All the cool kids are going. Here's what we will be floating in.

Bob
Title: Re: Not a good thing to see when you drop the oil pan.....
Post by: UNDONE on September 07, 2007, 05:45:21 AM
I too will be floating around out there...


Look for this and the most likely sausage fest on board.
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