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Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: 69kona on February 19, 2016, 01:43:39 PM
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I have a 10quart oil pan but no bung for a sender can I use a port in the filter housing ? Or?
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I have a 10quart oil pan but no bung for a sender can I use a port in the filter housing ? Or?
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What engine?
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455
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For oil temperature, not oil pressure,right?
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Yep for temp
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I have seen T's at oil pressure sender. Also at pan if you want sump temp. You really worried about Olds oil temp? Might be interesting to watch though. I've been using Oldsmobile motors for nigh on 40 yrs and never had oil temp gauges. Yeah, might be interesting.
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Sorry, somehow forgot to subscribe.
Where is your pressure sender? In the filter adapter?
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No at front of block..
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Could you throw a brass "T" inline with the pressure sensor? Or would welding a bung in the pan be a better option?
Shawn
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I have seen T's at oil pressure sender. Also at pan if you want sump temp. You really worried about Olds oil temp? Might be interesting to watch though. I've been using Oldsmobile motors for nigh on 40 yrs and never had oil temp gauges. Yeah, might be interesting.
I've got an olds with a oil temp gauge and I've got up to 300. In the process of putting a cooler on it now
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No at front of block..
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Then use the filter adapter. Perfect spot. That oil comes straight off the oil pump.
GT
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There's the 455's oil pressure sending unit location,in front of engine. One is T'd to pressure gauge. Simply to wire a temp gauge instead of pressure. Pan bung much more accurate for sure fairly easy if not installed. Likewise for filter adapter.
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There's the 455's oil pressure sending unit location,in front of engine. One is T'd to pressure gauge. Simply to wire a temp gauge instead of pressure. Pan bung much more accurate for sure fairly easy if not installed. Likewise for filter adapter.
Is that your motor? How big of a nos shot are you givin that thing? I'm thinkin about givin mine a little squeeze
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There's no flow there, it's a dead end. The oil pressure can be taken anywhere, the temperature must be in the path of flow. The filter adapter is ideal if not in the pan.
Most adapters are drilled for a sender for pressure. Use that for temp.
JMO
You technically can't get temp on a tee.
GT
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My opinion, do it right and weld a bung onto the pan...
Sure it may take time to do it right, but you want oil temp for a reason. So might as well do it right the first time!
Best wishes, Shawn
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My opinion, do it right and weld a bung onto the pan...
Sure it may take time to do it right, but you want oil temp for a reason. So might as well do it right the first time!
Best wishes, Shawn
How is in the adapter not "right".
The pan mounted sender is second best IMO.
GT
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To each their own... My intent was to be understood as take your time and don't do a hack to try and get it to work. Didn't want to offend anyone by my post, sorry of I did.
Shawn
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To each their own... My intent was to be understood as take your time and don't do a hack to try and get it to work. Didn't want to offend anyone by my post, sorry of I did.
Shawn
No offense taken. Ever. Just curious why it is everyone thinks in the pan is the ticket, truth is, in the oil path is a good indication of actual "usable" oil temperature.
Just an opinion. That's all.
The oil filter is the absolute first thing to get oil from the pan.
GT
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My belief, I think that the pan holds the bulk of the oil and therefore should give the best average of temperature. + or -
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My belief, I think that the pan holds the bulk of the oil and therefore should give the best average of temperature. + or -
Why accept an average when the real temperature of the oil serving the bearings is available?
That's all I'm saying, I doubt the bearings care if there is 30°F cooler oil somewhere in the pan.
Not hatin', just debate'n. Lol
GT
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And the temp on the heads is the same as the pan? Or the oil touching the bottom of the piston is the same temp as the oil in the filter? Average to me seems like a healthier way to use as a baseline. Just my 2 cents... I like your idea though and may try it on another build I'm working on. Good chat!
Shawn
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Bunger. Not my motor sir,from my galleries, nice though.
GT sir,it's hard to tell my "pink'd,almost scared" arms,fingers and belly that port is a dead end. It's hotter than jell. It would register on any heat gauge. As per Berkeley instructions,changed many a oil change at that port,it's HOT! Dead end it is, a hot dead end. As stated the adapter or pan bung is more accurate for sure. Easy if uninstalled. And your a young buck. Thanks Bunger,Thanks GT 👊
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Bunger. Not my motor sir,from my galleries, nice though.
GT sir,it's hard to tell my "pink'd,almost scared" arms,fingers and belly that port is a dead end. It's hotter than jell. It would register on any heat gauge. As per Berkeley instructions,changed many a oil change at that port,it's HOT! Dead end it is, a hot dead end. As stated the adapter or pan bung is more accurate for sure. Easy if uninstalled. And your a young buck. Thanks Bunger,Thanks GT 👊
Lol.
Basically, I say that being as its at the end of the system and on the front of the block (oil pump feeds from the back) and that is a port into a port (meaning it feeds nothing), that makes it a dead end.
It's the same story on a small block Chevy.
GT
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There's no flow there, it's a dead end. The oil pressure can be taken anywhere, the temperature must be in the path of flow. The filter adapter is ideal if not in the pan.
Most adapters are drilled for a sender for pressure. Use that for temp.
JMO
You technically can't get temp on a tee.
GT
Thank u that's were I'm putting it on the oil filter housing ..
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Nice picture Vwagon I know where you got that from that's my uncles 455 hahaha the first one btw
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Is that your motor? How big of a nos shot are you givin that thing? I'm thinkin about givin mine a little squeeze
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The first pic is my brothers motor. At that time just 150 shot.
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The first pic is my brothers motor. At that time just 150 shot.
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What kind of rpms was he spinnin? Anything done internally to handle the nos?
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Nice picture Vwagon I know where you got that from that's my uncles 455 hahaha the first one btw
Just got nitrous tuned on my float ..just a 120 shot could be more happier.👍
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