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che77y

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Gotta get some parts! Oil pan question
« on: May 09, 2015, 04:22:05 PM »
So I'm looking at a moroso 10 qt pan for my olds. I have a stock volume  oilpump w press in pick up. Summit says it's 7 1/4 deep at the sump my original auto pan is 7 inches. I can use my stock setup right? All that fancy bolt on pickup stuff I can only find hv pumps I'm not down w an hv pump because  I don't wanna push all my oil upstairs  comments?
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Re: Gotta get some parts! Oil pan question
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2015, 04:29:50 PM »

So I'm looking at a moroso 10 qt pan for my olds. I have a stock volume  oilpump w press in pick up. Summit says it's 7 1/4 deep at the sump my original auto pan is 7 inches. I can use my stock setup right? All that fancy bolt on pickup stuff I can only find hv pumps I'm not down w an hv pump because  I don't wanna push all my oil upstairs  comments?

Me and most guys on here with olds all run a hv pump. I've got a 12qrt pan right now and I just did return lines from the heads to pan and it was the best thing i ever did. I don't have any restrictors or any of that bs. Iff your motors pulled Id recommend doing this. I can run 5k rpms all day long without pumping my valve covers full of oil


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Re: Gotta get some parts! Oil pan question
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2015, 04:35:51 PM »
Me and most guys on here with olds all run a hv pump. I've got a 12qrt pan right now and I just did return lines from the heads to pan and it was the best thing i ever did. I don't have any restrictors or any of that bs. Iff your motors pulled Id recommend doing this. I can run 5k rpms all day long without pumping my valve covers full of oil


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Throw the high volume pump in the trash.

Jmho

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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

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che77y

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Re: Gotta get some parts! Oil pan question
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2015, 04:37:05 PM »
Me and most guys on here with olds all run a hv pump. I've got a 12qrt pan right now and I just did return lines from the heads to pan and it was the best thing i ever did. I don't have any restrictors or any of that bs. Iff your motors pulled Id recommend doing this. I can run 5k rpms all day long without pumping my valve covers full of oil


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  it's out bro heads are in the machine shop it's now a short block I did put oil restrictors in number 2 3 and 4 already.  U think an hv pump l be ok? I may look into doing what you did pretty  sweet drains I'm planning  on aluminum heads next season what did u do just tap the pan and go right through  the raised side of the head?
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Re: Gotta get some parts! Oil pan question
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2015, 04:40:20 PM »
I'm not gonna turn over 4500 rpm w the way my pumps set up I'd be surprised to see 5k I kept it in the low end of the spectrum for longevity s sake anyhow. Maybe a change in impeller s will prompt some other changes but that's not gunna be a while.
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Re: Gotta get some parts! Oil pan question
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2015, 04:40:21 PM »

  it's out bro heads are in the machine shop it's now a short block I did put oil restrictors in number 2 3 and 4 already.  U think an hv pump l be ok? I may look into doing what you did pretty  sweet drains I'm planning  on aluminum heads next season what did u do just tap the pan and go right through  the raised side of the head?


Yup drill and tapped a 3/8 npt hole. There's a old hot boat article and it has the exact measurements on where to do it I have it saved on my iPad if u need it u can probably Google it tho
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Re: Gotta get some parts! Oil pan question
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2015, 05:10:11 PM »
I really just want yo kno whether a stock pick up will fit in the pan or naw
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Re: Gotta get some parts! Oil pan question
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2015, 05:16:32 PM »

I really just want yo kno whether a stock pick up will fit in the pan or naw

It'll fit but probably won't be in the bottom of the pan where you want it


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Re: Gotta get some parts! Oil pan question
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2015, 07:43:35 PM »
HV oil pumps put a huge load on the distributor gear if you don't have the bearing clearances to bleed off the extra flow.
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Re: Gotta get some parts! Oil pan question
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2015, 07:51:27 PM »
I run an olds 455 I have had mine to 4500 maybe a little higher but not much. And I try not to keep it there longer than a min or so. Now I have a 10 qt. pan with the right pickup . Stock oil pump and I maintain 40 psi off idle . About 20 idling warm . No oil restrictions just opened up the oil returns in the heads.


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Re: Gotta get some parts! Oil pan question
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2015, 09:20:23 PM »
I run an olds 455 I have had mine to 4500 maybe a little higher but not much. And I try not to keep it there longer than a min or so. Now I have a 10 qt. pan with the right pickup . Stock oil pump and I maintain 40 psi off idle . About 20 idling warm . No oil restrictions just opened up the oil returns in the heads.


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I have a sbc in the fishin boat, and can keep 45-4600 rpm for eight, yes, 8 miles, the oil pressure was at 25 lbs at idle after that run.
At speed it was 50-55 lbs
dominator pump with an 'A' impeller... gps'd at 55-56 mph.

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Oh, Stock L-31 pan...5.5 qts
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Re: Gotta get some parts! Oil pan question
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2015, 09:23:41 PM »
Yah but that is a sbc ! The oil system is bullet proof!!! Hell the whole motor is. Now a olds has its issues . I really like it but I do have to watch what I do to it.


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che77y

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Re: Gotta get some parts! Oil pan question
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2015, 10:18:33 PM »
I run an olds 455 I have had mine to 4500 maybe a little higher but not much. And I try not to keep it there longer than a min or so. Now I have a 10 qt. pan with the right pickup . Stock oil pump and I maintain 40 psi off idle . About 20 idling warm . No oil restrictions just opened up the oil returns in the heads.


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do u guys,know then where the heck I can find a standard pump w the bolt on style? Imma open my heads up too.
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Re: Gotta get some parts! Oil pan question
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2015, 10:19:59 PM »
Yah but that is a sbc ! The oil system is bullet proof!!! Hell the whole motor is. Now a olds has its issues . I really like it but I do have to watch what I do to it.


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I've had tons of street chevys and one pontiac. Never messed w olds until now but yea that's what I've been reading
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