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Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: jonnygarcia on March 10, 2013, 08:31:45 PM

Title: Started putting my motor together today! (Pics)
Post by: jonnygarcia on March 10, 2013, 08:31:45 PM
Got it ready to put in this week :))
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Post by: uncleBOBBY on March 10, 2013, 08:33:52 PM
Looking good


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Post by: sevans01 on March 10, 2013, 09:11:44 PM
Nice!


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Post by: Rogers Hopeful on March 10, 2013, 09:32:43 PM
Is that a V-Drive oil pan???   :screwy:  Or are ford pans backwards from chevy?
Title: Re: Started putting my motor together today! (Pics)
Post by: Beaveretriever on March 10, 2013, 09:47:36 PM
That is a very good point???
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Post by: MADSKILLZ on March 10, 2013, 09:54:24 PM
Looks like that is why you had no oil pressure and blew it. The oil sump is in the wrong location
Title: Re: Started putting my motor together today! (Pics)
Post by: jonnygarcia on March 10, 2013, 10:34:42 PM
Nope its a jet ha and ya on the 460s the oil pick up is in the front. Kinda sucks but whatever. My friend has has the same exact set up in his boat, hes been running it for years with no oil pressure problems! So i.wasnt about to blow 700 bucks on a pan, pick up and pump. It blew up cause we ran it with 3 quarts of oil hahah (bought the boat and didn't chang oil last year) never again lol
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Post by: Rogers Hopeful on March 10, 2013, 10:47:41 PM
Thats interesting.  Seems like when you would accelerate you would have oil issues.  Hmm.  How many quart pan is that? 8?
Title: Re: Started putting my motor together today! (Pics)
Post by: jonnygarcia on March 10, 2013, 11:03:11 PM
Ya thats the only think im worried about so we'll see. And Idk. Im pretty sure its a stock pan. Which is a 6 quart system i believe. But Since the motor is completely dry im probably gonna put 6 1/2 or 7.
Title: Re: Started putting my motor together today! (Pics)
Post by: Rogers Hopeful on March 10, 2013, 11:29:07 PM
found this else where on the site.  Lakesonly is one of the ford gurus
The 460 Marine engines came with a front sump Cobra Jet oil pan.  They hold 6 quarts and have an integral windage tray that also helps keep oil around the pickup.  For a front sump pan, they do pretty well in a jet boat...remember, they had to keep oil around the pickup in a car with tires on asphalt/doing hard acceleration (much more g-force than a jet boat at launch).

So, whether or not you "need" a 10-quart pan depends on how you run your boat.  That being said, a full-length rear sump large capacity pan certainly wouldn't hurt and would be a very smart move if you run your boat hard.  When your pan comes off for pan gasket replacement, what you need to do is at least confirm that you have a CJ oil pan that has the windage tray. If you have a bone stock passenger car pan (no tray), then replace it with a rear sump jet boat pan for sure.

When changing from a front sump to rear sump oil pan, you need the pickup that goes with that specific pan and you usually have to also change from a front sump-style oil pump (M84B) to a rear sump style oil pump (M84D).  Some jet boat pan manufacturers offer two different pickup tubes for a given jet boat pan, one for each type of pump..so you need to know which pump you have if you keep your existing pump and order only a pan & pickup.

LO

Check that windage tray!
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Post by: GlassCutter on March 11, 2013, 06:06:01 AM
^^^ THAT'S GOLD RIGHT THERE ^^^
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Post by: 88CARRERA on March 11, 2013, 07:55:16 AM
All I run is 460

I would replace the pan, all mine have dooleys

just my .02
Title: Re: Started putting my motor together today! (Pics)
Post by: jonnygarcia on March 11, 2013, 12:58:44 PM
found this else where on the site.  Lakesonly is one of the ford gurus
Check that windage tray!


wow thanks! Makes me alot more confidant in this thing lol and YES it has a windage tray (:
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Post by: Beaveretriever on March 11, 2013, 02:09:53 PM


wow thanks! Makes me alot more confidant in this thing lol and YES it has a windage tray (:

dont worry johnny, its only like a mile to the sand bar in twin palms you will be fine :-)
Title: Re: Started putting my motor together today! (Pics)
Post by: jonnygarcia on March 11, 2013, 07:02:25 PM
dont worry johnny, its only like a mile to the sand bar in twin palms you will be fine :-)

haha ya and maybe me boat will make it back from the sand bar on its own power this year!  ;D lol
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Post by: ka0tyk on March 11, 2013, 07:10:35 PM
too bad the long beach performance swapmeet was this weekend.  I grabbed my pan for like $60.  im sure they have a rear sump 460 pan with a pickup for less than $100.
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