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jetjunky101

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starting issue
« on: February 16, 2012, 04:27:03 pm »
all i did was install a new starter silanoid....have a new battery and a new silanoid,and it started just fine b4...i just dont get it what could of happend? mabe bad wire or somethin ?  :banghead: any help or ideas ?
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bbfsouthwind

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2012, 04:50:36 pm »
grounds? Ground connection is very critical on a boat. Is the solenoid exciter wire hooked up and working properly?
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ka0tyk

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2012, 04:55:43 pm »
all i did was install a new starter silanoid....have a new battery and a new silanoid,and it started just fine b4...i just dont get it what could of happend? mabe bad wire or somethin ?  :banghead: any help or ideas ?
thanks

does it crank?  take a screwdriver and jump the solenoid/battery wire directly to the starter... this will rule out bad solenoid or wiring/key/button issues.

also check your ground wire from battery to the block/bellhousing.
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jetjunky101

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2012, 05:17:06 pm »
does it crank?  take a screwdriver and jump the solenoid/battery wire directly to the starter... this will rule out bad solenoid or wiring/key/button issues.

also check your ground wire from battery to the block/bellhousing.
nope dose not evan crank...evrthing was fine ...and i installed a new fuel pump and the solenoid and then nothing ...i have key to my tack,fuel,fan...ect. im just thinking a wire or a conector is bad
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jetjunky101

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2012, 05:21:59 pm »
ok...it cranks with a screwdriver  :screwy: i forgot that one...
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ka0tyk

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2012, 05:45:13 pm »
ok...it cranks with a screwdriver  :screwy: i forgot that one...

jump wire from battery + to starter solenoid small post to bypass the ign/key.  just keep troubleshooting.  now that you know the starter works, that should rule out ground.  if jumper wire doesnt work, its either not connected properly or a bad part.  if it works its something with the ign/key/button/whatever you have.

just cuz the solenoid is new doesnt mean its GOOD.  =) 
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jetjunky101

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2012, 10:16:22 pm »
yha evan put the ol one back on and still the same deal... gota be a bad wire or something
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jetjunky101

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2012, 01:55:38 pm »
think i found the prob. its the ignition...it has power in the off pos. then when i turn the key on ...no power
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jetjunky101

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2012, 05:43:20 pm »
ok...got new ignition and no dice  :banghead: checked all wires and connections ...fixed all that looled like they mite be a prob. i have power at the key and the terminal block...what the hell could of happend...could of my coil went bad ???  :banghead: this is crazy!!! started 1 day and the next no go......
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mobboss

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2012, 06:36:49 pm »
when ever i have a electrical prob i start from the beginning. start with the batt. as long as you have 12 volts move on . next use a test light make sure you have 12 volts to the ign switch. now turn the switch to the ON position you should have 12 volts to one side of the starter and to the solinoid. now you can turn the starter switch or use a screw driver and see what the starter does. another words with the screw driver touch one terminal and then the other (cross the two terminals) if nothing . its your starter or your solinoid. hope thisd helps.
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jetjunky101

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2012, 06:54:39 pm »
when ever i have a electrical prob i start from the beginning. start with the batt. as long as you have 12 volts move on . next use a test light make sure you have 12 volts to the ign switch. now turn the switch to the ON position you should have 12 volts to one side of the starter and to the solinoid. now you can turn the starter switch or use a screw driver and see what the starter does. another words with the screw driver touch one terminal and then the other (cross the two terminals) if nothing . its your starter or your solinoid. hope thisd helps.
yha jump with a screw driver and it cranks....im bigging 2 think that i got a bad solinoid ...but then when i put the old one back on that i know for sure worked...same deal so went through all the wireing and changed all that looked bad ...still no go i just cant understand what could of happend? gona get back after it agin 2marrow cuz wednesday off 2 gilroy 4 upholstery!!! seems kinda funny droping $3000 on seats on a boat that dont evan start  :screwy:
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jetjunky101

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2012, 07:49:48 pm »
if i jump my starter?and it cranks....dose it work? and how can i check if my new solenoid is good ?
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mobboss

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2012, 07:09:30 am »
ok yes if you jump the starter and it works , yes its good. now on to the solnoid you should hear a load click out of it when you power across it. if now its bad! just cause its new does not mean its good! what brand did you buy?? i always try to use standard brand on those type of things. let me know.
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jetjunky101

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2012, 10:22:17 am »
got from cp performance not sure what the name was ...got rid of box
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ka0tyk

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2012, 10:34:56 am »
got from cp performance not sure what the name was ...got rid of box

can you link the part you bought?  you can test a solenoid with a 12v lightbulb or an old trailer brake light.  just wire the positive thru the large posts on the solenoid to the battery.  run the ground to the - on the battery.  take a small wire from the + on the battery and touch the small post of the solenoid.  the solenoid should click and the light should turn on.  a solenoid is nothing more than a big big relay. 
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jetjunky101

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2012, 10:59:51 am »
just jumped the solenoid and it cranks...so the solenoid works  :banghead: so starter works solenoid works key works  :banghead:
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ka0tyk

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2012, 11:04:42 am »
just jumped the solenoid and it cranks...so the solenoid works  :banghead: so starter works solenoid works key works  :banghead:

sounds like some wiring gremlins...

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mobboss

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2012, 11:27:30 am »
yah now im thinkin you have a short to ground issue. wiggle the wires try to start it. if it cranks wiggle it again. look at the wires are they old and brittle???
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jetjunky101

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2012, 11:33:43 am »
this is a joke!!! mabe my wife is f-ing with me or it must be the grimlins  :banghead:
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jetjunky101

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2012, 12:16:27 pm »
another new one....this one from napa
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jetjunky101

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2012, 06:21:07 pm »
another new part express from cp .....installed, wires cleaned,and repaired ....and no go  :banghead:
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mobboss

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2012, 06:23:56 pm »
nothing like nice new parts.hope it works for yah!!!
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jetjunky101

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2012, 08:54:45 pm »
nothing like nice new parts.hope it works for yah!!!
new parts nice.....explain 2 the wife bad ....still dosent work worse  :banghead: off 2 upholstery dont see 4 two weeks...  :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:
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ka0tyk

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2012, 09:31:04 pm »
new parts nice.....explain 2 the wife bad ....still dosent work worse  :banghead: off 2 upholstery dont see 4 two weeks...  :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:

hows yer wiring skills?  boats are pretty simple wiring wise.  we could come up with a diagram in steps for you to follow.  first would be ignition and starting, then gauges, then bilge pump, etc...
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jetjunky101

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Re: starting issue
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2012, 08:00:50 am »
hows yer wiring skills?  boats are pretty simple wiring wise.  we could come up with a diagram in steps for you to follow.  first would be ignition and starting, then gauges, then bilge pump, etc...
i,ve done my share of wiring...and yha it is simple...i just dont know what could of evan happend....like my prev post one day started fine no issue and the next day no go  :screwy:
i really think a naighbors cat or rackoon or skunk....i know it sounds funny but theres alot around here....got in there when my seats where out ....but still that evan said...i have power at the key ign. start.and batt. and at the terminal block(new and new) and i jump starter and it jumps...jump solenoid and it jumps soooooo cleaned and put new connectors on evrything.....still no go....i just dont get it ...gona order new wire harness but i really dont think thats evan gona work  :screwy:
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