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Dr. Phil

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2009, 02:15:58 AM »

When did Dr. Phil sign up for the site? :screwy:

Since February 2007.  ;)
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povertyjet

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2009, 04:48:34 AM »
How did it happen??
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2009, 08:40:20 AM »
While your spinning the engine w/ the plugs out leave the filter off and put a catch can down till you see clean oil.
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2009, 12:02:53 PM »
I caught a chine and rolled my Daytona at a circle race at Castaic once.  We got it back on the trailer pulled the plugs and drained the oil and gas.  New oil, WD-40 everywhere and turned over the motor first with a breaker bar by hand then with the dried out starter. Refueled it, put the plugs back in and had it ideling in 30 minuets.  Let it heat up and that steamed the residual water out of the oil. The next monday tore it down to a short block and checked the bearings, all good.  Motor lasted the rest of the season when one of the aluminum rods let go (not the fault of the sinking, the fault of the guy who thought he could use those rods so long...me).
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2009, 12:25:36 PM »
I live near an ATV Park in Missouri.  The first warm day of spring last year my buddy and i took his ATV's up to the park and went riding.   I am much more of a boat guy and was soon over my head on the trails.  As i crested the top of a very steep hill i noticed that 10 foot in front of me was the end of the hill and on the other side was a lake.  :o  Luckily for me i had no hesitation about saving my life and bailed off, but the bike proceeded to crash down into the freezing water.  Long story short, after swimming the bike across the lake (the side i was on was too steep to climb) we were able to get it back to the car.  We drained the bike, replaced the oil, started it, and repeated this cycle until the oil didn't look like a milkshake.   

My buddy said that his wife still hasn't noticed that her brand new ATV had been submerged.  Luckily large tires kept it from sinking otherwise i would have been waiting for divers too.  ;D  Best of luck to you i, understand your uncetainty.
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electrowoman

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2009, 12:57:25 PM »
You bail and run guys must do well at Vegas.   ;D

For all anyone knows it may be laying upside down it 5 feet of sludge... 

I really (IMO) think you should tear it down and spend a week dry docked cleaning the fuel tanks, checking the engine, etc.  There will be a pile of etc's...

The time could save you a pile of money in the long run. 

Spin the big wheel and run her, would scare the crap out of me.   

Remember this isn't a dip, it's a sinking.

Either way I wish you the best of luck

Oh and for Dr. Phill... she's  probably mad at  him for letting her drive a defective boat!
If you think you'll ever make points that way I bet your in for a big disappointment  ;D

Just be glad no one was hurt, give her a hug and "get R done".





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ryanbrindle

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2009, 01:02:51 PM »
Hey Cadillac - I feel for you bud. I'd like to chime in on a related matter if you don't mind. Life has just thrown you the obvious curveball which is the sunk boat. But is also threw you a rare opportunity to strengthen or weaken the relationship with the GF. I never recognized them at the actual time they occurred, but looking back I could always say "yeah that was the day our love for one another took a turn for the ------ (whatever)."

In the middle of all the energy you have to throw at recovering the boat, take a minute to decide what and how you want to do with the unexpected relationship energy this has created. If you have strong positive feelings for her, then let her know that you forgive her and will eventually move past it. This is a kind of gift you can give her that will pay off huge later on. Or, if you really don't care that much for her then you can harness this event to clarify what is or isn't working right. Either way, I'm just saying you should harness it as long as it happened.

Sorry for maybe putting myself into something I shouldn't. Good luck with the recovery!


You could always just show her where the wrenches are and help her out with the carnage she had a hand in!  ;D  (Hopefully you wont be sleeping on the couch afterwards)
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #32 on: May 06, 2009, 01:08:58 PM »
Thanks to all of you for your input on this subject! It has given me a pretty good idea of what I need to do. First I have to see the damn thing come out of the water! :'( it's driving me nuts waiting till fri or sat till I even see what I'm getting myself into!  :banghead:
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« Reply #33 on: May 06, 2009, 01:22:04 PM »
I'd still love to know what happended.(hint,hint,hint). As fas as the last comment about HER being mad sounds about par for the girls I've been with.lol
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #34 on: May 06, 2009, 01:30:07 PM »
I let my GF drive the boat one time and one time only  :banghead: She it a bridge and just so happens the pillar she decided to hit had a piece of angel iron about 2 x 2 x 1/4 sticking out hit the bow at about the one o'clock mark sliced the boat for about 18 - 20 inches looked like some took a chain saw to it. Good thing see was only going about 5 MPH and I was in the boat. Once it hit she put it to the wood I reached over in a spilt second turned the key off to stop the madness and n the same motion softly removed her from the drivers seat started the boat and drove like a mad man back to the trailer. I got in a bit of trouble as I blew through a no wake zone but did not care to much I did not want the bow in the water. The water cops where cool about it once they saw why i did what i did. Needless to say she will not nor has she asked to drive the boat again.
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electrowoman

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #35 on: May 06, 2009, 01:44:26 PM »
 ;D
Why did you let her get that close to a stationary object in the first place??  :banghead:

If my wife gets within 50 yards of the bank it's time to trade seats, and she's glad
thank god...  ;D

Just so we can all watch out, WHY did it sink??    Yea, we know to much water on board but
what caused it?

Again, wishing you well and lots of luck!

« Last Edit: May 06, 2009, 01:49:48 PM by electrowoman »
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #36 on: May 06, 2009, 05:14:22 PM »
Hey Guys im Cadillac's brother that also worked day and night on this boat.  When he told me it went down, I felt like droping to my knees and crying.  I'm not even gonna try and explain what happened because I wasnt there, but with the details ive heard it sounds like a freak accident, Could happen to anyone (i mean any chick) driving a boat. Lesson learned on my brothers part. Id like to just post the pics of the boat so you can see what is 50ft down right now.  This was the first time we took it out on the test run...Like he said everything ran awsome cept there was a bit to much oil in the pan but from what I heard from my bro the Boat ran awsome after we drained a bit of the oil..









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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #37 on: May 06, 2009, 05:18:34 PM »
damn that sucks. thats a nice boat to boot!
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #38 on: May 06, 2009, 05:21:27 PM »
Ouch that hurts a lot.  Very nice boat to be sitting on the bottom of the lake.  Eliminator Sprint, right?
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #39 on: May 06, 2009, 05:36:46 PM »
No its a 20ft 79' Omega
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #40 on: May 06, 2009, 05:43:20 PM »
wow you guys kill me with all this woman driver shit :mad: my wife can and will drive my boat(s) whenever she wants. hell she paid for at least half of them. the first thing i would ask is are you ok? then deal with the boat. boats can be replaced people cant.......


there's nothing that make me prouder than to see her smiling and driving some thing i built ;)
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #41 on: May 06, 2009, 05:47:00 PM »
wow you guys kill me with all this woman driver shit :mad: my wife can and will drive my boat(s) whenever she wants. hell she paid for at least half of them. the first thing i would ask is are you ok? then deal with the boat. boats can be replaced people cant.......
there's nothing that make me prouder than to see her smiling and driving some thing i built ;)

x2....took jenn out on mead sunday and got her used to driving it. she still needs some slow speed practice, but shes got the 'pedal to the metal' part down.  ;D

edit: added a pic of jenn drivin the cruiser.

« Last Edit: May 06, 2009, 07:13:53 PM by Brad @ SoCalJetBoats.com »
  • Boat #1: 1978 Liberty
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #42 on: May 06, 2009, 05:55:27 PM »
My G/F says she wont even try, but she has no choice... She will learn how to drive it cause one day i might get drunk ;D
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #43 on: May 06, 2009, 05:55:53 PM »
well let me correct my previous statement...Enexperienced drivers.
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Cadillac

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #44 on: May 06, 2009, 05:56:26 PM »
Ok here goes! She was driving good straight, back and forth, not to fast or anything she was just getting a little feel of it, but it was choppi and big a$$ ocean liners were going by putting up huuggee swells in the main part of the lake. Which is when she decided she was gonna do doughnuts.  :screwy: She got around one time and I yelled at her don't do that just go straight and that's when my friend that was in the back seat yelled, go straight, go straight! Of course she went around that last time and he said holy sh*t go go go!!! She looked back and of course took her foot out of it and froze, which you know, about 20 gallons of water came over the transom and sides. It took about 2 seconds and the entire motor was under water, and choked out the motor!   :'( Within another 2 seconds the bow was coming up in the air really fast! We all jumped out, and within a minute 2 boats came to our rescue. Once we made sure that everyone was ok, I asked the age old question? Do you have a rope so we can tow it back in to shollow water? You know, the fu@ked up part was the 2 boats that came to help us not one of them had a fu@king rope.  :banghead: I wanted to throw up looking at my boat with it's bow straight up in the air I couldn't even talk I lost all brain function!   :screwy: Then the other guy we flagged down didn't have a goddamn rope either, at this point I was at a loss for words!!  :banghead:  I cannot believe people don't believe that a fu@king rope is important on a boat, especially 3 different people!!!!  :mad: And the shitty part was just 5min before this whole thing happened these cool ass jet boat guys that we were hanging out with at the sand bar in the back were right at the rocks with us and had left to go home. I got back to the dock still wanting to throw up, and saw those guys loading up their boat and told them what happened and they looked at me like deer in headlights! He said fu@k that and literally backed his jet boat back in to the water and said lets go it bobs under the water for like 30min. So he grabbed a ROPE and we went to try and find it , but no luck!  :'( I thanked those guys up and down cause they were the most concerned and actually felt my pain you could tell!!  So long story short, in the end I was a dumb ass and am re-living this horrible experience over and over in my head, but I am very thankful that none of us were hurt or worse!
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2009, 05:58:45 PM »
LOL, a lot of the times the women drive boats better than the men, there's no ego to contend with so you don't have to worry about the better halves blowin shit up...

The biggest problem with the jetboats is the lack of "control"   ;D

I look at it this way, she don't drive, I don't drink or ski. :sly:

GT
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #46 on: May 06, 2009, 06:01:49 PM »
Thanks Kev!!
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #47 on: May 06, 2009, 06:13:19 PM »
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LOL, a lot of the times the women drive boats better than the men, there's no ego to contend with so you don't have to worry about the better halves blowin shit up...

LOL Ask Crewcheif. His wife is a pro.

Sorry to hear about the whole thing. I agree, who in their right mind would be out on a lake without a rope?

And that's my biggest problem with Saguaro, the "Cruise Ships", lol. Still sore from that ride. (Albeit, my fault for trying figure out a way to open it up a bit for more than 5 hours, but still, lol)

Planning on taking my bigger boat up there on Saturday morning to see how it does, if i can be of any help, let me know. PM'ing my cell to ya.

Ray
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electrowoman

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #48 on: May 06, 2009, 06:43:30 PM »
I was under the impression you weren't there.   That makes it much worse... you actually had
to watch it go down...

I'm with you, I can't believe someone would go out in a boat without a rope.

I wondered how those rocket powered surf boards stayed afloat in rough water.  They seemed so loooooow.   

Mine split a water hose below the water line one day, that heavy rolling feeling sucked.  I beached it till
I found the problem.  I do feel your pain and wish you well.

Good luck in the recovery.  Did you GPS it?   
« Last Edit: May 06, 2009, 06:45:34 PM by electrowoman »
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Brad @ SCJB

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #49 on: May 06, 2009, 06:51:20 PM »
this post is not to intend to flame you or make you feel bad about your mistakes....its only to help you understand where things went wrong in this situation....

I wouldnt blame 'big a$$ ocean liners' on this one....it was just a simple rookie move. you said she was doing donuts....this means she was creating wakes that were slamming into eachother like a big old washing machine. i have done this myself and seen waves get to over 4' high....very dangerous for a low freeboard boat such as yours if you dont avoid the disaster you just created.

male, female, friend, brother, etc....i dont care who....this could have happened to any rookie driver. we all started somewhere. we all learn from our mistakes. trust me, ill be the first to admit myself of my past screw ups.

im glad everyone is ok. i hope you get your boat back in some sort of restorable condition. post up some pics of your rescue and the aftermath.
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