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Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: tgossett22 on May 20, 2014, 03:38:25 PM

Title: The scoop on scoops
Post by: tgossett22 on May 20, 2014, 03:38:25 PM
So if someone could give me a quick lesson on scoops. Forward facing vs. Backward facing. Exposed vs. Unexposed.

Is it a fuel air mixture issue. Is it a simple adjustment for the style you are running or want to run? Are there any advantages on one vs the other?

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Title: Re: The scoop on scoops
Post by: 74hondo on May 20, 2014, 04:36:20 PM
In my opinion, the easiest answer is it is just a style preference and to keep shit from getting sucked into the carb.
Title: Re: The scoop on scoops
Post by: beerjet on May 20, 2014, 05:33:25 PM
It's been proven that Holleys don't like the air blowing across the top of them....at least that's all I could remember.
Now legally, it's supposed to be backwards incase of a carb fart....


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Title: Re: The scoop on scoops
Post by: 74hondo on May 20, 2014, 05:52:48 PM
http://brucerichards.com/tuning.htm
Talks about air blowing across the top.
Title: Re: The scoop on scoops
Post by: Blown R/T on May 20, 2014, 06:34:27 PM

It's been proven that Holleys don't like the air blowing across the top of them....at least that's all I could remember.
Now legally, it's supposed to be backwards incase of a carb fart....


-beerjet-
What about an Edelbrock carb?


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Title: Re: The scoop on scoops
Post by: SuperJet on May 20, 2014, 06:47:58 PM
I run mine backwards for the safety aspect. Also if you run them forward its really annoying hearing the carb sucking all the air.
Title: Re: The scoop on scoops
Post by: tgossett22 on May 20, 2014, 07:58:33 PM
It's been proven that Holleys don't like the air blowing across the top of them....at least that's all I could remember.
Now legally, it's supposed to be backwards incase of a carb fart....


-beerjet-

Thanks guys that helps a lot! I like the scoop look and will be going that route....this helps me know which way it should be facing!
Title: Re: The scoop on scoops
Post by: beerjet on May 20, 2014, 08:10:09 PM
What about an Edelbrock carb?


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Those really like being either in front of, or behind the trailer tires....you know, to keep the trailer from rolling away.

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Title: Re: The scoop on scoops
Post by: beerjet on May 20, 2014, 08:24:05 PM
Unless you have forced induction, there is no benefit to having the scoop forward.
You'd have to be going right around the century mark to create any kind "air ramming" effect on a naturally aspirated motor.
The air flowing across the top of a carb due to a scoop facing forward has the potential to cause turbulence inside the scoop and disrupt fuel atomization.
99% of us will never notice it but the guys looking for every little bit put in the research.
Tall velocity stacks are the best at creating proper air flow into the carb.
Personally, I think the tall arching fiberglass scoops do a pretty good job at creating a good plenum for carbs.....even though they are hideous.


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Title: Re: The scoop on scoops
Post by: Havasukona455 on May 20, 2014, 08:46:55 PM

Those really like being either in front of, or behind the trailer tires....you know, to keep the trailer from rolling away.

-beerjet-

Haha my old edelbrock 500 is my tire chalk


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Title: Re: The scoop on scoops
Post by: el mojado on May 20, 2014, 10:00:17 PM
Forward on the water....backwards on the trailer in tow

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Title: Re: The scoop on scoops
Post by: GeneralLee on May 20, 2014, 10:17:18 PM
Forward on the water....backwards on the trailer in tow

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X2 Uhuh.



Title: Re: The scoop on scoops
Post by: lbhsbz on May 20, 2014, 11:32:51 PM
Sideways with black socks if yer from the OC
Title: Re: The scoop on scoops
Post by: Blown R/T on May 21, 2014, 12:27:09 AM

Those really like being either in front of, or behind the trailer tires....you know, to keep the trailer from rolling away.

-beerjet-
Lol...  Gee thanks  haha  When I upgrade to a real motor I'll put a better carb on it


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Title: Re: The scoop on scoops
Post by: Flusher on May 21, 2014, 01:33:52 AM
if you run them forward its really annoying hearing the carb sucking all the air.

That just enriches the symphony of your engine.   ;)
Title: Re: The scoop on scoops
Post by: crewchief22 on May 21, 2014, 06:28:24 PM
Rear facing is advised if there is a chance of being hosed down by a "friend" with a diverter.

Title: Re: The scoop on scoops
Post by: tgossett22 on May 23, 2014, 11:06:05 AM
Sideways with black socks if yer from the OC
Ha!! Lived there a few years back and still wear the flops with socks!

But I'm getting that forward isn't a serious issue. On the water anyway. They have those inserts for the arrestor that direct air flow downward into the carb....will that resolve the air turbulence issue?

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