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Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: K_ray26 on June 01, 2015, 02:51:14 PM

Title: Timing question
Post by: K_ray26 on June 01, 2015, 02:51:14 PM
Hey guys so I figured out that my distributor took a crap on me just ordered one for my bbc. I'm getting spark from the coil but not threw the distributor. now my question is how in the world do I set timing an how hard is it to do never really done one so if someone would like to help me out that would be appreciated also thanks in advance


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: GT Jets on June 01, 2015, 05:48:07 PM
Hey guys so I figured out that my distributor took a crap on me just ordered one for my bbc. I'm getting spark from the coil but not threw the distributor. now my question is how in the world do I set timing an how hard is it to do never really done one so if someone would like to help me out that would be appreciated also thanks in advance


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Where are you located?

GT
Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: K_ray26 on June 01, 2015, 06:28:00 PM
Monrovia


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: jimpen on June 01, 2015, 06:43:17 PM

Monrovia


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pull it over to Dennis shop in Pomona for some help


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: K_ray26 on June 01, 2015, 06:43:56 PM

pull it over to Dennis shop in Pomona for some help


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lol who's Dennis


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: capogniracing on June 01, 2015, 06:44:38 PM

lol who's Dennis


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me lol


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: K_ray26 on June 01, 2015, 06:45:02 PM
Or could someone tell me how to do it? how to wire up the coil an the distributor theirs only one wire off the distributor


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: K_ray26 on June 01, 2015, 06:45:58 PM

me lol


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well I guess that makes sense lol


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: jimpen on June 01, 2015, 06:46:30 PM
capigniracing on the boards


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: capogniracing on June 01, 2015, 06:48:32 PM

capigniracing on the boards


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ha you trying to say something.


"RTCP"
Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: jimpen on June 01, 2015, 06:49:59 PM
Just that he is close to you.


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: GT Jets on June 01, 2015, 06:51:08 PM
Or could someone tell me how to do it? how to wire up the coil an the distributor theirs only one wire off the distributor


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The wire from the distributor goes to the negative (-) side of the coil along with the tach. lead if you have one.

To time it, it will need to be "dropped in" on number one first... Do you know that part?

GT
Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: K_ray26 on June 01, 2015, 06:55:50 PM

ha you trying to say something.


"RTCP"
hahah unless you wanna coach me threw this an tell me what I need to do


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: jimpen on June 01, 2015, 06:57:48 PM
Kyle do you own a timing light?


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: K_ray26 on June 01, 2015, 07:00:00 PM

The wire from the distributor goes to the negative (-) side of the coil along with the tach. lead if you have one.

To time it, it will need to be "dropped in" on number one first... Do you know that part?

GT
so set the motor at tdc to the number one piston then what


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: RushinEliminator17 on June 01, 2015, 07:05:41 PM
There are a MILLION YouTube videos on setting a distributor and timing the engine correctly. This is something that is elementary, should be a one two three process.


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: K_ray26 on June 01, 2015, 07:07:49 PM

There are a MILLION YouTube videos on setting a distributor and timing the engine correctly. This is something that is elementary, should be a one two three process.


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i understand that their is a bunch of videos to do it but their also not telling you were to pull power for the coil or how to basically wire the coil up


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: jimpen on June 01, 2015, 07:11:26 PM
+ side of coil ignition drop your distributor in with the rotor pointing at #1. That will get you close now use the timing light.


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: GT Jets on June 01, 2015, 07:13:29 PM
+ side of coil ignition drop your distributor in with the rotor pointing at #1. That will get you close now use the timing light.


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That even confused me...LOL
Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: jimpen on June 01, 2015, 07:20:11 PM


That even confused me...LOL
it was short hand we have offered to do it already


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: K_ray26 on June 01, 2015, 07:21:22 PM


That even confused me...LOL
plus 2 lol can you give me a detailed write up GT from the wires from the coil where they go an basically what els to do besides put it at tdc at the number one piston with the rotor pointing at it


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: GT Jets on June 01, 2015, 07:37:36 PM
plus 2 lol can you give me a detailed write up GT from the wires from the coil where they go an basically what els to do besides put it at tdc at the number one piston with the rotor pointing at it


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Your killing me smalls...

From (I) on the ignition switch (purple wire conventionally) to the ballast resistor (if it has one) from the ballast resistor to the (+) side of the coil, there should be another wire on the positive side of the coil to the (I) terminal on the starter solenoid. The distributor wire goes directly to the (-) side of the coil along with the tach. lead (normally grey in color).

To get number one on top, pull the number one plug, bump the starter until the plug hole farts on you... Bring the index mark to "0" on the timing tab. Check the distributor cap for cylinder one, this is the cylinder furthest forward on the block BTW... Rotate the rotor until the rotor is pointing at number one post. drop the distributor in the hole, it may be necessary to bump the starter again to get it to engage into the oil pump shaft... It will drop all the way once lined up. Install the hold down, attach the wiring, drop on the cap and see what it does... If it coughs back through the carb, turn it clockwise, if it just does not start and sounds lazy, turn it counter clockwise... Once it lights, have the timing light ready....


Some helpful information, the firing order is 18436572.... The distributor turns clockwise looking down at it.


What'd I win?


GT
Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: jimpen on June 01, 2015, 07:45:13 PM

Your killing me smalls...

From (I) on the ignition switch (purple wire conventionally) to the ballast resistor (if it has one) from the ballast resistor to the (+) side of the coil, there should be another wire on the positive side of the coil to the (I) terminal on the starter solenoid. The distributor wire goes directly to the (-) side of the coil along with the tach. lead (normally grey in color).

To get number one on top, pull the number one plug, bump the starter until the plug hole farts on you... Bring the index mark to "0" on the timing tab. Check the distributor cap for cylinder one, this is the cylinder furthest forward on the block BTW... Rotate the rotor until the rotor is pointing at number one post. drop the distributor in the hole, it may be necessary to bump the starter again to get it to engage into the oil pump shaft... It will drop all the way once lined up. Install the hold down, attach the wiring, drop on the cap and see what it does... If it coughs back through the carb, turn it clockwise, if it just does not start and sounds lazy, turn it counter clockwise... Once it lights, have the timing light ready....


Some helpful information, the firing order is 18436572.... The distributor turns clockwise looking down at it.


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GT
. Holy crap.


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: K_ray26 on June 01, 2015, 07:47:52 PM

Your killing me smalls...

From (I) on the ignition switch (purple wire conventionally) to the ballast resistor (if it has one) from the ballast resistor to the (+) side of the coil, there should be another wire on the positive side of the coil to the (I) terminal on the starter solenoid. The distributor wire goes directly to the (-) side of the coil along with the tach. lead (normally grey in color).

To get number one on top, pull the number one plug, bump the starter until the plug hole farts on you... Bring the index mark to "0" on the timing tab. Check the distributor cap for cylinder one, this is the cylinder furthest forward on the block BTW... Rotate the rotor until the rotor is pointing at number one post. drop the distributor in the hole, it may be necessary to bump the starter again to get it to engage into the oil pump shaft... It will drop all the way once lined up. Install the hold down, attach the wiring, drop on the cap and see what it does... If it coughs back through the carb, turn it clockwise, if it just does not start and sounds lazy, turn it counter clockwise... Once it lights, have the timing light ready....


Some helpful information, the firing order is 18436572.... The distributor turns clockwise looking down at it.


What'd I win?


GT
haha the rights to go in my ice chest when you run out haha thanks man I appreciate it it doesn't not have a resistor btw


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: GT Jets on June 01, 2015, 07:54:24 PM
haha the rights to go in my ice chest when you run out haha thanks man I appreciate it it doesn't not have a resistor btw


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Should it?     :sly:

GT
Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: K_ray26 on June 01, 2015, 07:54:56 PM



Should it?     :sly:

GT
im assuming yes


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: MorePower on June 01, 2015, 08:00:14 PM
I knew GT would get in on this! Kyle, I'll help you with this and give you step by step...
1)Get truck
2)Back truck to trailer
3)Hook them together
4)Drive to Dennis
5)Watch and Learn
6)Don't forget a 30 Pack
Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: 87hardin on June 01, 2015, 08:07:43 PM
Man  I really love reading all the questions you guys answer GT, MorePower, and everyone that shares there knowledge.  YOU GUYS ARE COOL.
Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: SomeThingWilder on June 01, 2015, 08:22:36 PM
I knew GT would get in on this! Kyle, I'll help you with this and give you step by step...
1)Get truck
2)Back truck to trailer
3)Hook them together
4)Drive to Dennis
5)Watch and Learn
6)Don't forget a 30 Pack
Does this apply for all of us. Need a 101 on wiring a boat from scratch .
Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: K_ray26 on June 01, 2015, 08:37:29 PM

Does this apply for all of us. Need a 101 on wiring a boat from scratch .
LMFAO


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: MorePower on June 01, 2015, 08:46:57 PM
Does this apply for all of us. Need a 101 on wiring a boat from scratch .

Change 4-6

4)Drive to my house
5)Bring lots of Beer
6)Maybe we can figure it out
Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: GT Jets on June 01, 2015, 09:36:57 PM
I knew GT would get in on this! Kyle, I'll help you with this and give you step by step...
1)Get truck
2)Back truck to trailer
3)Hook them together
4)Drive to Dennis
5)Watch and Learn
6)Don't forget a 30 Pack


HAhahaha,,, That's awesome.

GT
Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: GT Jets on June 01, 2015, 09:37:23 PM
Change 4-6

4)Drive to my house
5)Bring lots of Beer
6)Maybe we can figure it out


That's awesomer...  :sly:
Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: SomeThingWilder on June 01, 2015, 10:10:48 PM
Change 4-6

4)Drive to my house
5)Bring lots of Beer
6)Maybe we can figure it out
When my guages  sh
ow up so will I
Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: 87hardin on June 02, 2015, 05:50:55 AM
Why of course
Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: capogniracing on June 02, 2015, 06:32:17 AM
Ha I just saw all of this lol. I'm swamped this week but anytime next week if you wanna bring it over.


"RTCP"
Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: 81sprint on June 02, 2015, 09:47:15 PM
Does this apply for all of us. Need a 101 on wiring a boat from scratch .
Here is a diagram I used when I re wired mine. I'm an electrician by trade so it was not hard to figure out but pictures always make things easier to understand.
Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: SomeThingWilder on June 02, 2015, 09:50:38 PM
Here is a diagram I used when I re wired mine. I'm an electrician by trade so it was not hard to figure out but pictures always make things easier to understand.
Yeah I build elevators sp reading prints like these r pretty easy. But what really confusing to me if what type of fuse box and how to wiring the fuse box in plays out
Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: GT Jets on June 02, 2015, 09:56:54 PM
Yeah I build elevators sp reading prints like these r pretty easy. But what really confusing to me if what type of fuse box and how to wiring the fuse box in plays out

You only fuse loads.

Main circuit breaker to the ignition swith, distribute from there.

I think my current jet has four fuses.

Bilge pump,  ignition, fuel pump and dash lights.

GT
Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: 81sprint on June 02, 2015, 10:01:39 PM
Not sure that you really need a fuse box unless it is your personal preference. Most jet boats have a terminal block on the rear of the motor with a master fuse, which is shown on the diagram


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Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: GT Jets on June 02, 2015, 10:04:53 PM
Not sure that you really need a fuse box unless it is your personal preference. Most jet boats have a terminal block on the rear of the motor with a master fuse, which is shown on the diagram


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That's called the "all or nothing" method.

GT
Title: Re: Timing question
Post by: 81sprint on June 02, 2015, 10:09:47 PM
Haha I eliminated that terminal block on mine. I am a minimalist when it comes to seeing wiring. The cleaner the better.  I only have inline fuses for bilge and ignition.


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