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PFM/Banks twin turbo installation question
« on: July 16, 2008, 08:36:15 AM »
Hello all,

Just picked up an older PFM twin turbo kit for the 20 Spectra. 

My question concerns the water supply to the twin water/air intercoolers.  For those of you with a similar installation - do you bring raw water from the pump directly or do you maintain a dedicated and clean fresh water loop on board using a water/water heat exchanger?  Should I be paranoid about sand and river muck accumulating in the intercoolers?

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Re: PFM/Banks twin turbo installation question
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2008, 08:45:32 AM »
They make a sea strainer or sand strainer to catch all the sand and muck.
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Re: PFM/Banks twin turbo installation question
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2008, 09:01:28 AM »
LUCKY bastard  ;D ive been looking for a kit, yes a sea strainer is a must on the inlet side, and of course you wanna have the coolest water charge you can get for the intercoolers.send us some pics of the kit!!
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Re: PFM/Banks twin turbo installation question
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2008, 10:23:36 AM »
Thanks for the quick responses!

The raw water strainers in my sportfisher take out anything larger than an 1/8" or so, just a stainless steel perf metal basket sitting in a Lexan/brass vessel.  Are you recommending something with a paper or metal mesh filter or ?  What water flow rates are required by the intercoolers, 4 GPM or so?  Should I now add some type of water pressure regulator to my entire cooling system, or just the intercooler inlets?

Probably going to do this project as a draw thru throttle body with digital port injection on a Victor manifold.  Used to have a 6-71 on this motor so the block is ready to go.  "O" ringed 4 bolt 468 BBC, copper head gaskets, steel crank, 7.5:1 forged TRW blower pistons, all turning an AA impeller.

I'll post pics when the kit arrives tomorrow.

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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2008, 10:49:22 AM »
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Re: PFM/Banks twin turbo installation question
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2008, 03:23:24 PM »
I would run the sand strainer from Hardin marine.
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2008, 03:26:24 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2008, 03:27:02 PM »
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Re: PFM/Banks twin turbo installation question
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2008, 06:41:14 PM »
Thanks, these look perfect but ouch ($$$).  I'll take a look in McMaster's and Grainger's for an "industrial" model rather than one with the "marine" label attached.  I'm assuming that these service only the water demands of the intercooler.

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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2008, 06:44:52 PM »
Yup they are pricy but what cost more??
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Re: PFM/Banks twin turbo installation question
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2008, 08:28:31 PM »
The intercooler elements are $300 a set new.  I assume you remove them and backflush with diluted pool acid on a periodic basis, but I'll bet you can plug them up instantly by getting in too shallow of water.  McMaster-Carr offers 100% stainless steel cartrige water filters for around $150 with a 10GPM/250PSI rating and filtering down to 2 micron diameters.  These may filter too good and clog prematurely.

My other thought is to use a tube-in-shell heat exchanger (which we use in our product line - $0.00  ;D) and allow the intercoolers their own dedicated loop (perhaps making a pass or two through the ice chest in the process)  I would only need supply a small circulation pump.

My wife accuses my of overanalyzing issues to the point of paralysis.  I have no clue where she gets that idea from  ::)

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Re: PFM/Banks twin turbo installation question
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2008, 08:08:38 AM »
What are you doing with the 671?? :o
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Re: PFM/Banks twin turbo installation question
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2008, 01:35:16 PM »
Don't know yet.  The two younger boys are eyeing for their 19 footer but the compression ratio on their new motor is at 8.5 or 8.75:1.  That's a bit tight for a non-intercooled Roots application. 

If I don't cave in to them then I'll sell it, the EFI spacer/injectors, and the Enderle hat as a package deal fairly cheap.  Pulleys are a 52/50 tooth set for a 3" belt.  Idler brackets mount to the blower.  Manifold is a Crager as I remember.  I'll know within the week what the plan will be.

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Re: PFM/Banks twin turbo installation question
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2008, 02:53:57 PM »
My kit arrived and everything looks good.  We'll pull it apart and polish everything tomorrow.

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