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Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: GAWnCA on March 20, 2008, 06:12:59 PM

Title: What's the Secret?
Post by: GAWnCA on March 20, 2008, 06:12:59 PM
Ok, what's the secret of pushing on push-on hose onto push-on fittings?
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: Luckie Stiff on March 20, 2008, 06:16:22 PM
Greg, when I did mine I used some ATF on the fittings and a little in the hose itself, I pushed it on until I could push no more then I gave it a good whack or two with a rubber mallet while holding the fitting in my hand, yes I hit my had a few times. I was also told to soak the ends of the hose in HOT water for a few minutes to let it soften and "grow" a bit. Good luck.

Skip
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: GAWnCA on March 20, 2008, 06:22:36 PM
Greg, when I did mine I used some ATF on the fittings and a little in the hose itself, I pushed it on until I could push no more then I gave it a good whack or two with a rubber mallet while holding the fitting in my hand, yes I hit my had a few times. I was also told to soak the ends of the hose in HOT water for a few minutes to let it soften and "grow" a bit. Good luck.

Skip

Thanks Skip,  I was just getting ready to do the hot water trick and if that doesn't work I'll try that and ATF.

Greg
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: hotrod56cars on March 20, 2008, 06:24:45 PM
I've heard of people talking about these push on deals but I don't think I've ever seen them, how about a pic or two when you can?
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: Luckie Stiff on March 20, 2008, 06:27:39 PM
Here you go Rod,

http://www.hoseline.net/hose/pushon.htm (http://www.hoseline.net/hose/pushon.htm)
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: Ralph Brunt on March 20, 2008, 06:33:08 PM
i used just a little bit of white grease and it worked ok. i know one thing once those things are on they dont come off unless you cut them off
just my .02
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: speedymopars on March 20, 2008, 06:36:38 PM
I like WD40 and / or palmolive.
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: hotrod56cars on March 20, 2008, 06:42:52 PM
Here you go Rod,

http://www.hoseline.net/hose/pushon.htm (http://www.hoseline.net/hose/pushon.htm)

Thanks.

I like WD40 and / or palmolive.

It softens your hands while you do the hoses.  :D  Hi Beerjet.  :-*
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: GAWnCA on March 20, 2008, 07:06:33 PM
I've heard of people talking about these push on deals but I don't think I've ever seen them, how about a pic or two when you can?

Well, I've got just four fittings I need to push on and I'm about ready to say FRUGEM all and look for pipe fittings with the splines on the.  I've now used hot water and silicon and can only get about 1/2 the way on.  That's worse than paying for a whore and only being able to get half a hard-on.  I think the whore is cheaper!

Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: Luckie Stiff on March 20, 2008, 07:20:03 PM
Try the dish soap idea, all you really need is a lubricant to make it slide on easier
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: speedymopars on March 20, 2008, 07:30:02 PM
I think the whore is cheaper!


Not in New York!
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: Nordie on March 20, 2008, 07:30:56 PM
Not in New York!




in vegas you can get two
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: hotrod56cars on March 20, 2008, 08:03:46 PM
Not in New York!

20 years ago you could get one for the whole night in the Phillipines for less than $3, and she'd dress you in the morning after she gave you a sponge bath with water out of a bucket.  :o  ;D
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: Luckie Stiff on March 20, 2008, 08:07:05 PM
But could she put push on hose and fittings together?
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: beerjet on March 20, 2008, 08:11:41 PM
It softens your hands while you do the hoses.  :D  Hi Beerjet.  :-*
;D

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi29.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc290%2Fbeerjet%2Fcomedy-4.jpg&hash=40565e8ef64fd534eacfd42082a7d03725137d6b)

-beerjet-
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: hotrod56cars on March 20, 2008, 08:15:28 PM
 :-* You do know that you're just encouraging my lameness, right?  :screwy:
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: beerjet on March 20, 2008, 08:22:55 PM
:-* You do know that you're just encouraging my lameness, right?  :screwy:
yes  ;D

-beerjet-
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: speedymopars on March 20, 2008, 09:54:56 PM



in vegas you can get two
Hell for the $4300 Spitzer spent in NY, I think you could get two for a lot longer than a night!
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: GlassCutter on March 21, 2008, 06:17:47 AM
But could she put push on hose and fittings together?
From what I've heard she could probably do it with no hands and for "a long long time."
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: GAWnCA on March 21, 2008, 09:54:29 AM
I've heard of people talking about these push on deals but I don't think I've ever seen them, how about a pic or two when you can?

Supposeadly (sp) you don't need clamps once they are installed and I can see why, it's a bitch to get the hose on in the first place.  Here's the combo.

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.comcast.net%2F%7Egregaw%2FFuel+Fittings+002a.jpg&hash=6c4a7b240725e9c425232005bed5e48c934f99ce)
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: CHROMEY on March 21, 2008, 10:11:18 AM
i have had those fittings before and liked them.....make sure you push them on untill it hits the stop or the yellow washer.....ps they are not comming off
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: GAWnCA on March 21, 2008, 10:15:03 AM
i have had those fittings before and liked them.....make sure you push them on untill it hits the stop or the yellow washer.....ps they are not comming off

Hell, so far they aren't going on either!!!   :banghead: :mad: :screwy: ;D >:(
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: hotrod56cars on March 21, 2008, 10:22:40 AM
Supposeadly (sp) you don't need clamps once they are installed and I can see why, it's a bitch to get the hose on in the first place...

Thanks. They look cool. A friend of mine used those throughout his boat but I haven't seen it yet.
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: GAWnCA on March 21, 2008, 10:27:35 AM
Thanks. They look cool. A friend of mine used those throughout his boat but I haven't seen it yet.

Ask him how to push the hose on?  I tried for an hour last night and all I could do is get just past the first flair.  They'll be great once I get them installed. 
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: hotrod56cars on March 21, 2008, 11:02:25 AM
OK so I gave him a call and asked him how he did the job. He said he put the fittings on the engine (or whatever part he was working on at the time), coated the end of the fitting that gets the hose with dish soap, heated the hose with a hair dryer, and shoved the hose onto the end. He said you get one shot to shove the hose on all of the way and if it doesn't go on all of the way you have to cut the hose off and try again. You can't partially install the hose onto the end and "work it on" the rest of the way. Hope that helped.
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: GAWnCA on March 21, 2008, 01:04:00 PM
OK so I gave him a call and asked him how he did the job. He said he put the fittings on the engine (or whatever part he was working on at the time), coated the end of the fitting that gets the hose with dish soap, heated the hose with a hair dryer, and shoved the hose onto the end. He said you get one shot to shove the hose on all of the way and if it doesn't go on all of the way you have to cut the hose off and try again. You can't partially install the hose onto the end and "work it on" the rest of the way. Hope that helped.

Well Rod, I'll let you know later on today or tomorrow.  Thanks.
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: FORKEDUP on March 21, 2008, 01:09:31 PM
those hoses sound like they are more of a bit** than steel braided line :banghead:
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: GAWnCA on March 21, 2008, 01:59:23 PM
those hoses sound like they are more of a bit** than steel braided line :banghead:

I've never done braided lines and these aren't easy at all.  I think, once it's all done, it should look pretty good.
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: TIMINATOR on March 30, 2008, 11:18:50 PM
We use boiling water to soften the hose and heat the fitting, then quickly shake the water off both then spray on a teflon based gun-lube on both the fitting and inside of the hose. Then with the fitting in a vice, shove it in. Works every time, especially on the larger fittings. I think teflon-based gun lube is registered and restricted in NewYork(Hillary's)state. Get it bootlegged in from elsewhere (the red states).  TIMINATOR
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: GAWnCA on March 30, 2008, 11:21:47 PM
We use boiling water to soften the hose and heat the fitting, then quickly shake the water off both then spray on a teflon based gun-lube on both the fitting and inside of the hose. Then with the fitting in a vice, shove it in. Works every time, especially on the larger fittings. I think teflon-based gun lube is registered and restricted in NewYork(Hillary's)state. Get it bootlegged in from elsewhere (the red states).  TIMINATOR

Hell, if it's outlawed in NY you can bet it started here in California.  I think they are trying to outlaw the air we breath.  I'll try one of the gun shops and see what I can find.  These things are a beitch to push. 
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: ryanbrindle on March 30, 2008, 11:26:34 PM
Now I know this may sound funny but try some personal lube (k-y, astroglide). Thats some of the slickest stuff that I can think of. O0
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: GAWnCA on March 30, 2008, 11:28:32 PM
What's this stuff going to do in the fuel line make the gas go through faster, making the boat go faster... to the pumps.  LMAO!!!   ;D ;D :D :banghead:
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: GAWnCA on March 31, 2008, 10:06:33 AM
Well, I guess I'm going to have to find something else to use and put this stuff on the shelf.  I've tried all the suggestions and I'll be damned if I can get this hose to slip on the fittings.  DAMN IT!!  :banghead: :mad: :banghead: :mad:
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: Luckie Stiff on March 31, 2008, 01:16:06 PM
Well, I guess I'm going to have to find something else to use and put this stuff on the shelf.  I've tried all the suggestions and I'll be damned if I can get this hose to slip on the fittings.  DAMN IT!!  :banghead: :mad: :banghead: :mad:

Not to be a smart ass, but did you get "push on hose" to match the fittings? I'm not sure if it makes a difference but when I bought mine the guy made sure I got the right stuff.  If I was closer I'd come and help you.

Just a thought
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: GAWnCA on March 31, 2008, 01:20:49 PM
I bought both the hose and the fittings (with the exception of one) from Dave at sweetperformance.com  http://www.sweetperformance.com/product/index.php  Suppose to be 3/8 AN-6 for both.  They come close to pushing on but I lack about 1/4" to fully seat.  Hell, I'm ready to send this stuff out to be done.
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: Luckie Stiff on March 31, 2008, 01:26:50 PM
Well if you got it from Dave, you got the right stuff, if you're only issue is the hose not "seating" on the fitting, you've got no worries, the stuff on my boat didn't bottom out, I called my supplier and he assured me that as long as you get both barbs in the hose, with a little hose past the closest barb, you'll be fine. That's what I went with, the fuel line stuff went on like butter, the water lines are a little, about 1/4" shy.
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: GAWnCA on March 31, 2008, 01:31:00 PM
This is fuel line and I'm ready to ship it back and exchange for braided.
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: GAWnCA on March 31, 2008, 03:49:57 PM
Well, I've calmed down and will give this another shot later on.

:banghead: :mad: :banghead: :mad: :banghead: :mad: :banghead:
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: Ralph Brunt on March 31, 2008, 04:52:53 PM
check pm's
Title: Re: What's the Secret?
Post by: stc315 on April 03, 2008, 11:47:33 PM
I used that stuff on a Camaro I built up. I set the hose out in the sun for an hour to make it pliable and then I just spit on the hose end and the end of the hose and slid it on in a twisting motion and it went on with a lot of effort but got it seated. got braided on most of my lines now. still a few more to go. Braided is easier but more costly. Also need to follow a couple of rules on braided or it will puncture the cr*p out of your fingers.
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