SoCal Jet Boats
Tech Talk => Gelcoat / Paint / Fireberglass Repair => Topic started by: SoCalPSD on February 08, 2013, 10:04:10 PM
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So After talking with Ralph Brunt and Glenn I think I have enough confidence to tackle this hole head on. So I will be using west systems, just which combination of there products. So the 105 epoxy, the 205 fast hardner, the pumps, I already have some 3m fiberglass mat and cloth I will use unless someone chimes in and recommends otherwise. I'm also considering the 404 high density filler and the 406 silica filler for shaping the the strake? Still kinda lost at this, but hey it's only glass, I can cut it out and redo it right.
Hey Glenn, I have seemed to misplace my notes I wrote while talking to you. Although I do remember the gold bond comment and I can't remember the stuff you said to use on the plastic for that smooth glass trick.
So any other recommendations are appreciated and thank you Glenn and Ralph for the insight.
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keep in mind the temp when using the west fast hardener and the amount you're making. i usually only make a batch with 4-5 pumps of epoxy resin or else it gets too hot and kicks too quickly. small amounts are easy to work with, a large glob will cure in a blink of an eye.
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I save the clear caps off of the liquid laundry detergent and use them for resin mixing cups then just pitch it when your done.
I also buy the 2" cheapy paint brushes at Harbor Freight by the box to use just for fiberglass.
Good luck with the project and take lots of pics.
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you can do this :thumbup:
you mite want to make your first try a practice run on some thing like a peice of cardboard or plywood, cut a hole similar to what you will be working with in the boat and lay it up so you get a feel for what the resin and glass is going to do.... just thinking out loud here...
good luck
ralph
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Have used this stuff with great results...
West System Six10 Epoxy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOB-OE3-4UQ#ws)
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Good luck corey. You got this
Did you get the boat flipped yet?
Call me if you need help
Cjris
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At the risk of jumping in too late, matt is not necessary with epoxy and most companies dont suggest matt with their products. Ive never heard if its bad to use other than soaking up epoxy like a sponge by I do know they dont recommend it......john
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Well haven't done anything yet, letting it air out for a week or two. I think the core board has some water in it so I have heaters under the hull trying to heat it up and dry it. Got everything though
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told ya that shit aint cheap
good aint cheap and cheap aint good
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told ya that shit aint cheap
good aint cheap and cheap aint good
Hah, no Ralph, that it isnt. But it sure is nice stuff to work with. Like mentioned previously, limit the amount you mix at a time to about 5 pumps and refill when that is gone. Anymore than that and it will set off quicker. With 5 or less, you have a nice long working time that lets you fine tune your fabric so it lays exactly how you like it.
Good luck........
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Take back that hardener...there is no reason you need it to kick fast.....take your time and do it right. Also, dont listen to what kayotik said....pump it 1 for 1. The pumps have been designed to get you the right resin to hardener ratio mix for the stuff to properly chemically bond. Ive used this stuff in great volumes with great success. 206 hardener and 105 resin.
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Ah hah. So which hardener do you recommend brad? The reason I bought the fast hardener is because we have been in the mid sixties to low seventies lately and west systems website claims it has around a 10 min pot time and a 4 hour workin time
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Take back that hardener...there is no reason you need it to kick fast.....take your time and do it right. Also, dont listen to what kayotik said....pump it 1 for 1. The pumps have been designed to get you the right resin to hardener ratio mix for the stuff to properly chemically bond. Ive used this stuff in great volumes with great success. 206 hardener and 105 resin.
i didnt say to pump it "not 1 to 1" i said to only make a batch 4-5 pumps at a time, not 30 pumps. :screwy:
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i didnt say to pump it "not 1 to 1" i said to only make a batch 4-5 pumps at a time, not 30 pumps. :screwy:
Sorry...read it wrong
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Ah hah. So which hardener do you recommend brad? The reason I bought the fast hardener is because we have been in the mid sixties to low seventies lately and west systems website claims it has around a 10 min pot time and a 4 hour workin time
Id go with the slow 105 hardener
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Take back that hardener...there is no reason you need it to kick fast.....
Damn Brad, further proof I need to move. I have some slow hardener and it's damn near useless up here in the Artic. Send some sun my direction bud.
Yep.... 1 pump to 1 pump is correct but as Kat was suggesting limit the size of the batch to 5 or 6. Much more than that and you might end up wasting it as it starts to cook off im the bucket. Ian and I wasted some 207 a month ago and I knew better but did a big batch anyhow. Stupid :banghead:
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I like to keep a cup of acetone handy to set my brush in when working with resin to keep my brush from going stiff.
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