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Tech Talk => Gelcoat / Paint / Fireberglass Repair => Topic started by: SSpeeDEMONSS on August 02, 2015, 01:54:29 PM
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How can I get this paint off? It is just painted on top of the gel coat. Rubbing compound with a buffer? Wet sand?
Garrett
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Have you tried acetone? How about lacquer thinner?
Depending on how long is been on there, you will more than likely have to color sand of the Phantom marks. The gel coat will have oxidized more in the surrounding areas and not at all under the paint.
GT
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have you tried anything so far? does it have a layer of clear over it?
i would test a spot with mineral spirits....or paint thinner. i wouldnt use a paint remover/stripper...could be too harsh. and id say acetone would help remove some gel coat or soften it....not good. just my opinion. could be wrong there.
carb cleaner. brake cleaner. both might soften paint so you can scrap with a razor...or maybe rub off
color sanding and buffing will take a layer of gel with it. which would may be needed after you get paint off
ill ask my painter tomorrow, see what he recommends.
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have you tried anything so far? does it have a layer of clear over it?
i would test a spot with mineral spirits....or paint thinner. i wouldnt use a paint remover/stripper...could be too harsh. and id say acetone would help remove some gel coat or soften it....not good. just my opinion. could be wrong there.
carb cleaner. brake cleaner. both might soften paint so you can scrap with a razor...or maybe rub off
color sanding and buffing will take a layer of gel with it. which would may be needed after you get paint off
ill ask my painter tomorrow, see what he recommends.
I can personally guarantee that acetone, while it will remove the wax and dull the shine, will not harm the gel coat.
;D
GT
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bam!
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bam!
Lol.
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There is no clear on it. Someone just painted it on.
I will try a little brake clean to see what it does.
Garrett
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Negative on the brake clean.
The paint and pin striping were done by the same guy. Not that it probably makes any difference.
Garrett
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I just did this last night with a smaller piece. I've read threads about easy off oven cleaner....I had some under the sink...and a few beers on board so I decided to try it.... Turned out great, but you have to acted fast. I masked the area off...sprayed lightly over the area....walked into the kitchen to get a beer...came back about 45 sec later and scrapped with a plastic putty knife and immediately washed it off several times.
I am getting the boat wet sanded professionally this week which is one reason I did it. I am not saying this is the right way, just sharing my experience.
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X2 on easy off, never used it on anything fiberglass but on my 65 it got a painted front fender back to Og paint.
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I really don't want to have to wet sand it as I don't see me keeping this hull after this season but "Plum Crazy" has to go. I will get some oven cleaner tomorrow and see how it works out.
Garrett
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I really don't want to have to wet sand it as I don't see me keeping this hull after this season but "Plum Crazy" has to go. I will get some oven cleaner tomorrow and see how it works out.
Garrett
Your going to be color sanding and rubbing bud. IMHO no way around it. Flat surfaces are easy. Won't take long.
GT
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Your going to be color sanding and rubbing bud. IMHO no way around it. Flat surfaces are easy. Won't take long.
GT
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Sweet. On top of trying to get my pump rebuilt I get to deal with this. T minus two and a half weeks until laughlin, I have to get her ready.
Garrett
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Sweet. On top of trying to get my pump rebuilt I get to deal with this. T minus two and a half weeks until laughlin, I have to get her ready.
Garrett
So leave it.
Maybe get a Coors Light sticker to cover it up. ..lol
GT
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So leave it.
Maybe get a Coors Light sticker to cover it up. ..lol
GT
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I'm going bad luck with it and changing names. I already put a new sticker up top but don't have anything big enough to cover this.
Garrett
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I really don't want to have to wet sand it as I don't see me keeping this hull after this season but "Plum Crazy" has to go. I will get some oven cleaner tomorrow and see how it works out.
Garrett
Costco/SAMs...three cans for $12
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Costco/SAMs...three cans for $12
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Take me, I don't have a Costco membership. Haha
Garrett
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bring your float by shop....ill hit it up with easy off....sand and buff it same day!!! BAM!!
stanton, ca.
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Fiberglass paint stripper you paint it on and let it sit for about 5 min then you scrape it off. Do small sections. It will remove the paint down to gel coat. I did my boat this was and it didn't damage the original gel coat.
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bring your float by shop....ill hit it up with easy off....sand and buff it same day!!! BAM!!
stanton, ca.
I would love to be able to do that. Working nights right now doesn't give me much play to do stuff during the day during the week.
Garrett
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I would love to be able to do that. Working nights right now doesn't give me much play to do stuff during the day during the week.
Garrett
If you know this is paint over original gel then I would use something a bit stronger than acetone. Acetone will work but it will be a slow process and you need patients. I have used Citristrip from Home Depot with good results, but whatever you do just keep in mind there will be sanding involved. Once you have the paint removed clean the area good and wet sand the area smooth again. Buff, apply wax, and you're off. If you have questions about wet sanding let us know, it's not as difficult as it sounds if you have not been through it before.
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Run me through the wet sand process. Material list as well. I'm willing to give it a shot.
Garrett
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I stripped my whole boat of a thick layer of paint with Citristrip paint stripper from Home Depot or Lowes.Worked awesome with no damage to the Gelcoat underneath
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Run me through the wet sand process. Material list as well. I'm willing to give it a shot.
Garrett
I this case I'd start with either 800 or 1000grit. That should cut thru pretty nice. Then progress to 1500, then 2000 grit. 2500 if needed. Afterward I'd hit it with buffer and compound ...wool pad first then sponge. It's a process. You're gonna need a block or some kind of firm backing when sanding...otherwise you can leave finger grooves behind. Looks wavy. It is possible to sand thru gel...so be careful. You're only trying to removed the marks left behind from the painted "plum crazy"
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Also, change water when you change grit....
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When I wet sand I use 1000, 2000, and 3000. The sanding pads I used are in the first picture. The second picture is the Dual action polisher I bought at harbor freight. Start with the 1000 pad and get a spray bottle and put a few drops of dish soap and fill the rest with water. Spray the area with the soapy water and run the polisher over it. Don't stay in one spot for too long, constant movement. It will take a little longer with the 2000 and 3000 to get it to polish out. Once your done with that start buffing it with a 10" buffer and some compound, then wax it
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nick, are you saying you use a power tool to wet sand/color sand? and those pads are the equivalent to 1000, 2000, 3000 grit paper? (is that polisher waterproof/resistant?)
if so,.....why am i doing it the hard way..... :banghead:
nice.....
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nick, are you saying you use a power tool to wet sand/color sand? and those pads are the equivalent to 1000, 2000, 3000 grit paper? (is that polisher waterproof/resistant?)
if so,.....why am i doing it the hard way..... :banghead:
nice.....
I hear yah, wet sanding is not my friend FML so sore
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nick, are you saying you use a power tool to wet sand/color sand? and those pads are the equivalent to 1000, 2000, 3000 grit paper? (is that polisher waterproof/resistant?)
if so,.....why am i doing it the hard way..... :banghead:
nice.....
I have done it quite a few times. It works great. Those pads are the equivalent of the paper, they don't last really long, maybe once around the boat. I picked them up at a auto paint supply shop. They are not really cheap either. $3-5 a piece but they are worth it and they are meant for wet sanding
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Have you tried a razor blade?
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I have done it quite a few times. It works great. Those pads are the equivalent of the paper, they don't last really long, maybe once around the boat. I picked them up at a auto paint supply shop. They are not really cheap either. $3-5 a piece but they are worth it and they are meant for wet sanding
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Good to know
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Have you tried a razor blade?
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a little. it would definitely take A LOT of scraping to get it off and even at that it wouldn't get 100% of it. hopefully i can get outside in the morning before it gets to hot and see how the oven cleaner works.
Garrett
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Still working it with the 220. It's a lesson in patience and I don't think the wife is thrilled with the constant layer of white dust all over everything. If I were going to pay to have someone finish this up what would I be looking at $$$ wise. Stanton is not that far just saying....
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That nice little gouge in the bow is my attempt at the razor blade and heat gun method... Be careful
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Still working it with the 220. It's a lesson in patience and I don't think the wife is thrilled with the constant layer of white dust all over everything. If I were going to pay to have someone finish this up what would I be looking at $$$ wise. Stanton is not that far just saying....
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Haha. I hear ya. Lemme know
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The oven cleaner worked. Hopefully I can get to wet sanding it this week and take the remainder of the paint off. Unfortunately I lost some of the pin striping but I was already expecting that.
Garrett
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Looks pretty damn good to me man. Good job
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Nothing a can of blue and a good brush can't fix
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I personally liked the plum crazy... It always stood out on CL, you knew it was the boat when posted.
Purple is one of those colors you love of hate though, I can see why you'd want it off. But I felt it made it different. Yet I also kept my boats name got them reason.
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You saw it on CL?
Bad luck and all, it's probably going to get a name change. But we'll see where it ends up once it is all back together.
Garrett
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You saw it on CL?
Bad luck and all, it's probably going to get a name change. But we'll see where it ends up once it is all back together.
Garrett
Not recently, but it used to pop up form time time over the past couple years. Not sure if it ever sold or what, just know I've seen it before.
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I'm going to wrap the sandpaper around a sanding sponge, will that work as a flat enough surface so as to not leave finger marks?
Also, going to go at it with a "wax on, wax off" motion. I assume to not go in a straight line. Am I on the right track? I have 1000, 1500, and 2000.
Garrett
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I normally do the straight back n forth motion. Sanding sponge is OK as long as it's not the kind with grit already on it. Don't be stingy with water. You'll see the fresh water get cloudy or take on the color of the gel or paint or whatever you're sanding. If it's a layer of clear....it'll be harder to tell. Set as idea a good hr or two for sanding. You're looking to sand with the heavier grit
Focusing on where the paint was...and as you progress thru geits, sand a bigger area...eventually when you get to the highest grit you'll be sanding an area bigger than where pai t was. When you buff, the whole deck should get attention. This way it will minimize how much better looking the newly sanded area is compared to rest of deck/boat. Nah mean?
Job should be within your capabilities. Just time consuming.
Go easy....if you burn thru gel from sanding or buffing....You'll have to repaint. You can try to save the pinstripping area for the finer grit....to try to save what's left....and buff it easy there. Just a thought.
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I ended up sanding the whole bow. It needed it anyways. It's pretty damn smooth now. Going to hit it with the buffer tomorrow and see how it turns out.
Garrett
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Nice man. Looks good
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Last night....I was drunk for a week.
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Anybody have any compound in particular for buffing it out? I have used mostly mothers products for my vehicles but this is my first gel coat.
Garrett
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Not looking too bad. Stage 1 of 4. 10 times better than it was, I'm cool with this.
Garrett
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Looks awesome.
Don't make it too nice....haha....unless you wanna do rest of boat....then...you won't sell it cause it'll look bad ass. Lol.
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Finished the bow. I have to do the rest of the boat for sure now. Yay. Can't help the existing cracks but it is pretty damn shiny and smooth.
Garrett
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haha....yeah....big difference...
sure looks nice tho...cracks and all... :thumbup: