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Tech Talk => Gelcoat / Paint / Fireberglass Repair => Topic started by: OpposedOdie on March 08, 2013, 10:02:05 AM

Title: pro's and con's
Post by: OpposedOdie on March 08, 2013, 10:02:05 AM
So I have the new boat at home and the rub rail is missing ... is it possible to just fiberglass the two together and if so is there any problems later on with the seam?
Title: Re: pro's and con's
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on March 08, 2013, 10:09:45 AM
This process is called capping. It make any boat look great....

http://www.socaljetboats.com/hulls/capping-qa/ (http://www.socaljetboats.com/hulls/capping-qa/)

Title: Re: pro's and con's
Post by: TrollerDave on March 08, 2013, 03:52:53 PM
pros - looks AWESOME.

cons - supposed to be a lot of work to do right.
        - no protection to the outer edge of the boat (docks, floating next to other boats, etc)
Title: Re: pro's and con's
Post by: uncleBOBBY on March 08, 2013, 04:00:57 PM
pros - looks AWESOME.

cons - supposed to be a lot of work to do right.
        - no protection to the outer edge of the boat (docks, floating next to other boats, etc)
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Title: Re: pro's and con's
Post by: 5150whiteboy on March 08, 2013, 04:25:57 PM
I know my buddy just paid 6 bills to have his old beat to crap rub rail removed and a new one installed.. Made a big difference on appearance.


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Title: Re: pro's and con's
Post by: Your Mom on March 08, 2013, 05:23:49 PM
Mine was capped and its wasn't a good job. Started to crack through gel so I used a 1" vinyl stripe on it for years...every now and then I would redo a small area from dock rub or whatever. I scored 50' of new rub from DCB last year for 20 bucks... I just went by one day and asked if they had anything they didn't plan on using...worth the time to check out a local boat joint...
Title: Re: pro's and con's
Post by: lbhsbz on March 08, 2013, 08:29:33 PM
I have a bunch of extra rub rail removed from my 20ft avenger...if you'd like some, you're welcome to it.  The rubber insert is cheap at Rex Marine.  I've got the aluminum, which is about $12/ft last time I bought it
Title: Re: pro's and con's
Post by: quick olds on March 08, 2013, 10:25:42 PM
If he doesnt want it ill take it
Title: Re: pro's and con's
Post by: OpposedOdie on March 09, 2013, 09:03:05 AM
I am going to cap it ... local body shop told me 1100.00 to do it , but im going to get my air tools out of storage an do it myself.....
Title: Re: pro's and con's
Post by: berkbryan on March 09, 2013, 08:35:26 PM
Just know if not done perfect it will crack
Title: Re: pro's and con's
Post by: SuperJet on March 09, 2013, 10:03:47 PM
Just know if not done properly it will crack

Fixed it 😁
Title: Re: pro's and con's
Post by: ka0tyk on March 09, 2013, 11:24:47 PM
my rub rail was all jacked up on my boat, bent and dents, etc.  i ended up yankin it off, i grinding the area smooth and then i used some trim tape from west marine over the crack.  cant really tell until you get close.  it ended up looking better than the old jacked up rubrail.

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=11151&partNumber=409631&langId=-1&searchKeyword=1%26quot%3b+stripe#.UTw1kRlNXQs (http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=11151&partNumber=409631&langId=-1&searchKeyword=1%26quot%3b+stripe#.UTw1kRlNXQs)

just an option.  rubrail aint cheap, and capping the boat is a shitload of work.
Title: Re: pro's and con's
Post by: OpposedOdie on March 10, 2013, 08:29:48 AM
I'm going to cap it myself, the inside is already done. I was working on the motor and took a look under the inside of the hull and seen that the two were joined together with glass matting and that made my mind up....
Title: Re: pro's and con's
Post by: SuperJet on March 10, 2013, 09:22:10 AM
I'm going to cap it myself, the inside is already done. I was working on the motor and took a look under the inside of the hull and seen that the two were joined together with glass matting and that made my mind up....

That glass bonding strip is how almost all hulls are bonded together. It is called tabbing. Don't be afraid to grind or cut into the hull to get a good working area. The joy of glass is you can just add more. If you have any questions feel free to post them up.

RC
Title: Re: pro's and con's
Post by: OpposedOdie on March 12, 2013, 10:31:46 AM
Thinking about adding some carbon fiber in the layers, 1-1inch strip of fiberglass, a layer of 2inch carbon fiber and then a cap of 3 inch fiberglass.
Title: Re: pro's and con's
Post by: SuperJet on March 12, 2013, 12:28:13 PM
Why? If it is not going to be seen it is a waste of money. Cf is very expensive and for how much you will be removing between layers. I do not see the benefit at all
Title: Re: pro's and con's
Post by: jrork on March 14, 2013, 07:06:30 PM
I gotta agree with everyone about the Carbon Fiber.   It would really be a waste and unnecessary for your needs.   However, you absolutely can cap it yourself at home.   Just take your time and ask alot of questions.   Good luck...john
Title: Re: pro's and con's
Post by: GlassCutter on March 14, 2013, 09:12:06 PM
I would think twice about doing this, especially doing it yourself.   $1100 sounds to me like 3-4 full days of work by someone who has already done this a time or two.

Pro:  Looks better and right now looks like chit.

Con:  More work than new rubrail by far.
         Capping is going to require some good paint matching/applying skills.  Do you have them?
         May crack in the future, thus looking like chit again.
         You will never be able to use a dock again without one or two trusted friends to keep the hull off of the dock.
         Trusted friends may still stop paying attention, and then you are back to looking jacked up.
         
Title: Re: pro's and con's
Post by: OpposedOdie on April 20, 2013, 02:33:23 PM
Well started the job and first day into the project my compressor took a dump. So the project went off to the Glass shop to get done.. It looks great , I have to get it back together and I will be doing a test run next weekend, I will post a link to the film when i do of the run.....
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