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Tech Talk => Gelcoat / Paint / Fireberglass Repair => Topic started by: dezerttoyota on April 21, 2015, 07:57:35 PM
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The transom is rotted on my 21' commander and i need it replaced, so im looking for a good shop to take it to, or if anyone on here wants to do it. I called up oc boat repair and the quoted me 2200-2300. And martinez marine queted me 1000- 1500. And these quotes are for just the transom work, im pulling out drive and motor out. Does anyone have any other shops or should i just go with martinez. I wish i could just do it myself but i work to much right now to get it done.
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is it a jet drive??
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We can do at our shop 800 to 1000
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I have a couple of questions that may save you some serious grief.
How are the stringers and the floors? It would be very unusual to have concentrated wood rot just in the transom. To do the transom properly, the stringers, portions of the floor and the motor mounts need to be removed and redone.
I have done literally hundreds of these and can say with a 90% certainty that the transom is likely the small problem. Doing this type of work is exactly how I almost lost my left hand (long story).
I highly recommend having some serious exploratory investigation work done. When I do these, all through cut areas like exhaust holes, bilge pump dumps, trim tab holes, get drilled out to a much larger size and Sea Going Epoxy is used to fill and re-drill the holes, this make the wood getting wet an absolute improbability.
In most cases (depending on labor rates and materials used), this was a $2500 plus job.
If someone gives a quote for less than $2K, get it in writing. These things have the tendency to take on a life of their own.
Lifted 250, please do not take that personally, this sounds like an I/O, not a jet, quite complex comparatively speaking. I am in the middle of doing my Carerra Elite and I have 18 hours in it just removing the old wood. I use a time clock to have an idea of what jobs take, I will have well over 60 hours in this one. Figure that out at your local shops labor rate..... :screwy:
GT
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I work for a boat shop we do full repairs gel paint fiber glass
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I work for a boat shop we do full repairs gel paint fiber glass
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Like I said, don't take it personally. All I am saying is that if this were in my shop, I would spew a number like $2000 before I said $1000...
Be killer if you guys could do it for less. But color me skeptical... :sly:
GT
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You dont need wood on your trans if its a jet...
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Gt we do it a lot just did sleek with 5.7 and alpha 1 out drive i know what I am talking about
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Its an i/o. Its rotted from the drain plug to 10in up. I posted about it about a year ago. I took it to oc boat repair to get the motor mounts and stringers replaced. They quoted me 1200 and it ended up being 2100. The work looked good, they replaced the quarter stringers and the motor mounts but the first trip i took it out i noticed the bildge filling with water faster than im comfortable with. After searhing for the leak i found a crack on the transom probably 6in long a couple inches above the stringer and i push on it and stick my finger in there and its hollow.
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Its an i/o. Its rotted from the drain plug to 10in up. I posted about it about a year ago. I took it to oc boat repair to get the motor mounts and stringers replaced. They quoted me 1200 and it ended up being 2100. The work looked good, they replaced the quarter stringers and the motor mounts but the first trip i took it out i noticed the bildge filling with water faster than im comfortable with. After searhing for the leak i found a crack on the transom probably 6in long a couple inches above the stringer and i push on it and stick my finger in there and its hollow.
This is why I made the investigation comment on an earlier post. The transom did not rot in a year. It was there when the mounts were replaced.
Do the math. $1,200 quote, $2100 when done, needs more work.
I have seen this more times than I care to mention.
Lifted, what's your labor rate?
GT
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Not here to get the fifth degree I asked the own it's what he said I work for shop gt right 90 % of the time if the transom rotted the stringers are to its very easy to check
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The motor on his and out drive will be out that's why he said that price if motor out
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Not here to get the fifth degree I asked the own it's what he said I work for shop gt right 90 % of the time if the transom rotted the stringers are to its very easy to check
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Dude,
Don't get defensive, no need my man.
I was simply asking because our labor rate, almost 20 years ago now, was $80 an hour, most shops in my area here are over $130/hr, trying to figure out how you can do it at such a low rate.
The way I figure it, this is a 20 hour job, it's going to require about $160 in materials.
Math again;
20 hours at say $80/hr.
That's $1600
Add the material and you are at $1760.
This job can't be done in 20 hours and I hope you are not charging less than $100/hr.
Just keeping it real. I did it for 18 years.
Just sayin'.
No offense intended.
GT
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By the way, just for discussion sake, I can have the engine and drive out of an I/O in about an hour and a half.
Did one last week for a rear main seal. Back in and aligned in just under two hours.
GT
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Just put it out there and we will have it in contract
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Just put it out there and we will have it in contract
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That's awesome.
The only reason I was pushing for more information was because I get people needing work done on a daily basis. May be worth the drive.
I think you get the wrong idea about me sometimes.
Peace out.
GT
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I know ur kool I was just putting this out there
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By the way, just for discussion sake, I can have the engine and drive out of an I/O in about an hour and a half.
Did one last week for a rear main seal. Back in and aligned in just under two hours.
GT
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I wish you lived next store to me. We would be BEST friends!!!!
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I know ur kool I was just putting this out there
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Just putting it out there would have been just simply indicating labor rate, like you were asked...
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We can do at our shop 800 to 1000
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I'm just curious, What shop do you work for?
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I have nothing to say to u rushin
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Edge marine in Hesperia
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I work with gary Papp and ron
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This is why I made the investigation comment on an earlier post. The transom did not rot in a year. It was there when the mounts were replaced.
Do the math. $1,200 quote, $2100 when done, needs more work.
I have seen this more times than I care to mention.
Lifted, what's your labor rate?
GT
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Yea it definitely has been rotted for a while. Hopefully this time ill be done with the rotted wood in this thing.
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I have nothing to say to u rushin
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Never asked you any questions !
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U made a statement I responded have good day
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U made a statement I responded have good day
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Not sure why you seem pissed all the time. If this group of guys on this site has that effect on you I sure would not post. I'm quite aware you will put me on blast for this I just don't understand I guess. Sorry in advance :mad:
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No nothing like that there's a long story behind me and rushin nothing with u jim it seems that he only has negative to say
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And I have some great help with my hull it will be fast but on that note I ment no disrespect to any one
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No nothing like that there's a long story behind me and rushin nothing with u jim it seems that he only has negative to say
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If you can point out ONE negative thing is said, I'm ready to listen.
By nature, people who have something to hide are always on the defensive... Just sayin
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I have none thing to hide
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Now children.....
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I have none thing to hide
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Please... Don't go there 🙊
Never said you did, funny how even that is defensive.
I was referring to your allegation about being negative, can you support your statement ?
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Now children.....
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Sorry GT, ur getting these new post notification for this useless banter...
Just couldn't resist 😎
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Anyways the offers out there
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Here is my 2 cents about all of this.
lifted250: You claim to be working for Edge Marine in Hesperia (never heard of it - and Google renders nothing) I suggest you carry yourself a bit more professional if you are trying to make a name for your shop, you're already digging a hole for yourself. This thread isn't the first time I've heard something negative with your name associated with it. Your name is now a direct reflection of the shop you work for since you did claim that as a reason to trust your opinion - in this thread.
Sit back, relax, and enjoy what we all are here for - the passion of jet boats. If you're here to be a hard ass, this isn't the place to be that guy. The people here you are arguing with have more reputable experience than you from what I can tell from your posts. I welcome you to prove everyone wrong, but have some facts to back it up, rather than dropping a name of a shop that Google hasn't even heard of.
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Not a prob did not mean to disrespect any 1 here lots of good people here not trying to piss any 1 off Sorry if I did
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I think I've been to edge marine before. I live in Hesperia. Didn't use them for anything or buy anything. Just went by to look. That it it's a different boat shop by Osh off of main by the bridge.
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I work with gary Papp and ron
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is that the same ron that has coolparts2011 on ebay?? He's in hestaria off main. Bought some stuff from him, got sum vdrive advise from him.. nice guy..
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Yes it is same guy he a small shop
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All I know is he dose gel stringers floors and more here a pump just back from powder coat so when I am asked a price I ask him so all of you guys jumping me for that I just relay how much he tells me not trying to get big and bad here here's mine were doing set back stringers gel balsa floors new transom also taking hook out so again not here trying to upset or blast any 1 the I ask him how much he tells me so again Sry if it feels like i am blasting any 1
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All I know is he dose gel stringers floors and more here a pump just back from powder coat so when I am asked a price I ask him so all of you guys jumping me for that I just relay how much he tells me not trying to get big and bad here here's mine were doing set back stringers gel balsa floors new transom also taking hook out so again not here trying to upset or blast any 1 the I ask him how much he tells me so again Sry if it feels like i am blasting any 1
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Some punctuation and grammar would make your posts a lot easier to read.
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LOL HAHAHAHA
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Yep
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Yep
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😂😂😂 👍GT
"RTCP"
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Sorry. Can't stop.
Haha
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Sorry. Can't stop.
Haha
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LOL!
Dang it, snot just came out my nose from laughing at that one.
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LOL!
Dang it, snot just came out my nose from laughing at that one.
x2 lol, nice to get a dose of morning humor.
"RTCP"
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Yes I know my spelling sucks
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Just for fun! My grammar sucks too
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