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Tech Talk => Hulls => Topic started by: 464Saloon on March 02, 2012, 06:45:20 AM

Title: 1977 Rogers
Post by: 464Saloon on March 02, 2012, 06:45:20 AM
How many different models did Rogers make in the 70's? There isn't much information that i can find for Rogers. Looking at what pictures I can find the hull looks like a Bonneville or Cyclone except the deck doesn't flare up at the dash, it is flat. I assume the flare up is called a bubble deck but not sure. Once I can figure how to post a picture I will.
Title: Re: 1977 Rogers
Post by: Rogers Hopeful on March 02, 2012, 07:10:10 AM
Cyclone- 16'& 17'. Flat deck.  I think its called an early entry bottom
Super Cyclone- 17'10. Flat deck. Looks like a Bonneville bottom
Bonneville-  18' Bubble deck
Bonneville TR- 19' Bubble deck
Bonneville Classic- 21' mini day cruiser
Title: Re: 1977 Rogers
Post by: 464Saloon on March 02, 2012, 10:43:02 AM
Cyclone- 16'& 17'. Flat deck.  I think its called an early entry bottom
Super Cyclone- 17'10. Flat deck. Looks like a Bonneville bottom
Bonneville-  18' Bubble deck
Bonneville TR- 19' Bubble deck
Bonneville Classic- 21' mini day cruiser

Thanks for the info. I found some pictures of a couple of Super Cyclones. The hull looks like mine but seating looks different. Mine looks like the pics of the Bonnevilles. I am also in Lakewood Ca
Title: Re: 1977 Rogers
Post by: Rogers Hopeful on March 02, 2012, 11:35:50 AM
To post pics.
When you reply, right below the message box click the "attachments and other options".
Then click browse.  Find the pic in your files.  then click post.

Where abouts in lakewood are you?

Here is a pic of my dads cyclone.

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi13.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa292%2Fjtmonts%2FRogers%2FIMG_0139.jpg&hash=86e401fa86c3a45925c78f4d19a588bf824d6674)
Title: Re: 1977 Rogers
Post by: 464Saloon on March 02, 2012, 12:09:53 PM
Ok I will have to do that from home as the pics are in that computer. That one of your Dads looks like mine with that seat layout too. Im near Woodruff and Del Amo. The boat is at a friends shop in Norwalk with the motor out of it. I spun a rod bearing in it at Lake Elsinore testing it after I did a bunch or repairs and upgrades to the boat. I normally keep it in Bullhead City but bring it home for big stuff. Can't complain, was the origional motor and had never been torn down.
Title: Re: 1977 Rogers
Post by: Rogers Hopeful on March 02, 2012, 01:06:14 PM
Lol. live off of palo verde and del amo.  your a block away!
Title: Re: 1977 Rogers
Post by: 464Saloon on March 02, 2012, 04:41:09 PM
Now just need to figure if it is a Cyclone or Super Cyclone. All I know is that with a very tired engine and what was later found out to be a worn jet drive, we did 62 on the Colorado river using GPS. Never did clock it with the rebuilt jet, headers, recurved ignition, and Team G manifold with large scoop. Picked up about 300 rpm. 4500 is about all she would, do the engine was just too tired to do more. So whatever 300 rpm more would be. I guess somewhere between 65 and 70. These things must be scary with a fresh engine in them. I was going to sell it but as I learn more about it and now I have the motor out, I am having second thoughts.
Title: Re: 1977 Rogers
Post by: 464Saloon on March 03, 2012, 07:13:32 AM
Anyone here tell me if this is a Cyclone or Super Cyclone? What is the differance and advantages/disadvantages?
Title: Re: 1977 Rogers
Post by: 464Saloon on March 03, 2012, 07:24:53 AM
Not me in the photos LOL
Title: Re: 1977 Rogers
Post by: 464Saloon on March 03, 2012, 07:28:52 AM
Not sure how to make the pics big on here like Rogers Hopeful. Gets bigger when you click on it.
Title: Re: 1977 Rogers
Post by: Ralph Brunt on March 03, 2012, 07:39:29 AM
hit the attachments and other options drop down box under your post, to the right of where you attached your pic there is another drop down menu, click it and click on inline full size image. that should do it.
Title: Re: 1977 Rogers
Post by: 76 Bonneville on March 03, 2012, 08:14:57 AM
Anyone here tell me if this is a Cyclone or Super Cyclone? What is the differance and advantages/disadvantages?
It's a Super Cyclone, I've never seen a Cyclone built after around 72. There may be a few out there, but after the Super Cyclone came out not many Cyclone's were built.
18' Super Cyclone and 18'Bonneville share the same bottom.
Title: Re: 1977 Rogers
Post by: 464Saloon on March 03, 2012, 09:17:31 AM
It's a Super Cyclone, I've never seen a Cyclone built after around 72. There may be a few out there, but after the Super Cyclone came out not many Cyclone's were built.
18' Super Cyclone and 18'Bonneville share the same bottom.

Thanks. So is the only differance between a Bonneville and Super Cyclone the bubble top then? What is the differance in the hulls. Is one better or should I say better at one thing than another?
Title: Re: 1977 Rogers
Post by: Rogers Hopeful on March 03, 2012, 09:32:24 AM
Yep same bottom different top.  I think the bubble tops have less room for seating but i am only basing that off of pictures.  Clean looking boat!!
Title: Re: 1977 Rogers
Post by: 76 Bonneville on March 03, 2012, 09:35:49 PM
Lost 6" of cockpit with the bubble deck. Went from a 6 seater in the flat deck to a 4 seater in the bubble deck. The 19' TR came out soon after that to get the space back.
Title: Re: 1977 Rogers
Post by: 464Saloon on March 04, 2012, 07:15:00 AM
So what is the differance in the hulls?
Title: Re: 1977 Rogers
Post by: Rogers Hopeful on March 04, 2012, 08:27:33 AM
My dads boat has an early entry (i think thats what its called).
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi13.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa292%2Fjtmonts%2FRogers%2F154_5475.jpg&hash=1c10eeb373a08274df52eb306e9b888c22d58bf8)

The Bonneville bottoms are the same as yours except for the TR its longer and has chines
Title: Re: 1977 Rogers
Post by: 464Saloon on March 04, 2012, 09:19:16 AM
Looks like a deeper hull so I would imagine better in rough water. What are chines?
Title: Re: 1977 Rogers
Post by: 76 Bonneville on March 04, 2012, 01:53:56 PM
Here's a pic of the bottom our 19 TR. It has the large chines that it shares with the 20' Bonneville Classic.
The chines are where the side of the hull meet the bottom. Different shapes on different hulls.
Title: Re: 1977 Rogers
Post by: 464Saloon on March 05, 2012, 06:22:21 AM
Those are bigger than mine. Now I at least know what chines are. So what are the advatages/disadvantages of these hulls?
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