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Tech Talk => Hulls => Topic started by: Driver4r on May 17, 2016, 02:30:20 PM
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Hows it going guys?
I've been floating around on here for about a year and a half now, mainly watching the classifieds, but occasionally looking thru the forum. never bothered to make an account until now.
Recently got out of college, and now with more free time, I feel its finally the time to pull the trigger on getting a boat.
I have a good idea what I'm looking for as far as hull design/shape, but not sure as far as brands go, There's a Tahiti in town locally, but it has sat outside for as long as I can remember, lets say the better part of 18 years. And he's asking entirely to much for it, But are Tahiti's a good beginner hull, or what brands would be a good mold for the entry level boater. * The picture is the general design I like*
A few things I've learned to look for:
*Warped hull from setting on the trailer to long
*1/4,1/2, or full stringer
*Stringer condition
*Floor condition
*Drive condition
*Glass condition(hull, not windshield)
Are there other obvious things I'm missing?
I didn't list engine related stuff because that's my hobby, so I plan to just build my own setup, and buy a boat without one.
What about drives? The 2 most common I see are Jacuzzi, and Berkley. Is one stronger than the other, and where can I read about the older drives power limits?
Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
Ps. I figured this was the best place to put this, can a mod move it if I put it in the wrong location?
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First of all welcome to the SCJB. Secondly there are people on this board with far more knowledge then I have and I'm sure they will be along shortly.
I think a good question to start with would be. What kind of boating are you looking to do? Family fun or building a runner? Because then there are going to be different answers for different applications.
I'd say some good starter boats that you can put some power to would be, Eliminator, Bahner, Rogers, Miller and Southwinds. I'd look for boats with full stringers. I'm sure there are going to be plenty of other options people are going to add for you, but these hulls are usually pretty decently priced and are good all around hulls.
As far as pumps Jacuzzi's can be built, but in my opinion your going to want to look for hulls with either Berkeley (JC or JG) or Dominator.
This may be crazy, but I looked for a boat for 5 years before jumping on my Bahner. I got exactly what I wanted for my patience. What I mean is be picky about what your buying. And for what it's worth I'd pass on the Tahiti that's been sitting in the weather for the last 18 years. Good luck with the search.
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Welcome to SCJB ;D
Even if you're planning on building your own engine, I'd still recommend buying a complete boat with engine (runner if possible) so you get all the accessories that will kill a budget quickly (alternator, starter, distributor, mounts, headers and the list will keep going).
Specific brands won't matter as much as how it was treated over the last 30-40 years. Look at the stringers and transom wood for rot or delamination of the fiberglass covering those pieces.
Good luck with the search.
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First of all welcome to the SCJB. Secondly there are people on this board with far more knowledge then I have and I'm sure they will be along shortly.
I think a good question to start with would be. What kind of boating are you looking to do? Family fun or building a runner? Because then there are going to be different answers for different applications.
I'd say some good starter boats that you can put some power to would be, Eliminator, Bahner, Rogers, Miller and Southwinds. I'd look for boats with full stringers. I'm sure there are going to be plenty of other options people are going to add for you, but these hulls are usually pretty decently priced and are good all around hulls.
As far as pumps Jacuzzi's can be built, but in my opinion your going to want to look for hulls with either Berkeley (JC or JG) or Dominator.
This may be crazy, but I looked for a boat for 5 years before jumping on my Bahner. I got exactly what I wanted for my patience. What I mean is be picky about what your buying. And for what it's worth I'd pass on the Tahiti that's been sitting in the weather for the last 18 years. Good luck with the search.
I am DEFINETLY passing on the Tahiti here in town haha, Its not worth what he's asking for the shape its in. honestly, I would only give him 300-400 for it, and that's only so have have an extra pump, and mabey an OLDS intake. http://lincoln.craigslist.org/boa/5542614841.html (http://lincoln.craigslist.org/boa/5542614841.html)
Here where it snows and freezes, that boat has had LOTS of water in it, and lots of ice in the winter. The engine is locked up, and honestly, the pump probly is also.
Around here is mainly smaller lakes, with the occasional river. I want a runner, but I might also pull an occasional tube around the lake.
Welcome to SCJB ;D
Even if you're planning on building your own engine, I'd still recommend buying a complete boat with engine (runner if possible) so you get all the accessories that will kill a budget quickly (alternator, starter, distributor, mounts, headers and the list will keep going).
Specific brands won't matter as much as how it was treated over the last 30-40 years. Look at the stringers and transom wood for rot or delamination of the fiberglass covering those pieces.
Good luck with the search.
I completely understand where you are coming from as far as the accessories, especially if your not much of a mechanics guy. I have LOTS of engine related parts for cars/trucks, and most of that stuff changes over to boats, with the exception of the mounts/headers.
I was mainly looking at just a floater, because that means the boat is cheaper.
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Did anybody read the add on the Tahiti. 90000 new. What's he smokin!
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I was mainly looking at just a floater, because that means the boat is cheaper.
Let's say you find a good hull with pump for $1500. But now it needs upholstery, engine, new cables (throttle, steering, shifter, diverter), new gauges, some wiring and a few performance up grades.
Upholstery $1500-$3000 depending on condition of wood and if you get the good guy discount.
Engine $2500-$3500 to overhaul existing core with minimal machine work and assembling it yourself.
Cables $200-$300
Gauges $150-$500
wiring $100-$500
Performance upgrades (intake, carb, scoop, ignition, headers, nitrous, roller cam & rockers, valvetrain, custom machine work...) $500-$30,000
Don't pass up looking at running boats because of cost. If you find a good hull to build, but have to purchase or overhaul most everything you will spend more than it'll cost you to start with a runner.
That $6000 runner isn't looking so expensive now, is it?
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Did anybody read the add on the Tahiti. 90000 new. What's he smokin!
That boat new was probably very close to what he is asking for it now :o
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Probabley does 100mph
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Let's say you find a good hull with pump for $1500. But now it needs upholstery, engine, new cables (throttle, steering, shifter, diverter), new gauges, some wiring and a few performance up grades.
Upholstery $1500-$3000 depending on condition of wood and if you get the good guy discount.
Engine $2500-$3500 to overhaul existing core with minimal machine work and assembling it yourself.
Cables $200-$300
Gauges $150-$500
wiring $100-$500
Performance upgrades (intake, carb, scoop, ignition, headers, nitrous, roller cam & rockers, valvetrain, custom machine work...) $500-$30,000
Don't pass up looking at running boats because of cost. If you find a good hull to build, but have to purchase or overhaul most everything you will spend more than it'll cost you to start with a runner.
That $6000 runner isn't looking so expensive now, is it?
Fock it.
I just went outside and lit my project on fire.
Buzzkill.
GT
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Fock it.
I just went outside and lit my project on fire.
Buzzkill.
GT
Haha
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Did anybody read the add on the Tahiti. 90000 new. What's he smokin!
Lol, isnt it just a gem!!
Let's say you find a good hull with pump for $1500. But now it needs upholstery, engine, new cables (throttle, steering, shifter, diverter), new gauges, some wiring and a few performance up grades.
Upholstery $1500-$3000 depending on condition of wood and if you get the good guy discount.
Engine $2500-$3500 to overhaul existing core with minimal machine work and assembling it yourself.
Cables $200-$300
Gauges $150-$500
wiring $100-$500
Performance upgrades (intake, carb, scoop, ignition, headers, nitrous, roller cam & rockers, valvetrain, custom machine work...) $500-$30,000
Don't pass up looking at running boats because of cost. If you find a good hull to build, but have to purchase or overhaul most everything you will spend more than it'll cost you to start with a runner.
That $6000 runner isn't looking so expensive now, is it?
Yea, stuff adds up pretty quick, cars are the same way lol. Yea, a 6k boat doesn't look that bad after you add everything up. Most of that I could do myself (upholstery, wiring, machining). But I completely see your point.
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Fock it.
I just went outside and lit my project on fire.
Buzzkill.
GT
Lol! I just laughed so hard my wife thinks I am crazy. Man that is some funny shit.
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Question..
When someone says its a heavy layup, or a light layup. Are they referring to the hull weight, or the bow weight?
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Question..
When someone says its a heavy layup, or a light layup. Are they referring to the hull weight, or the bow weight?
Basically how much material was used to build the hull.
Heavy=tough as nails and very comfortable.
Light=fragile, fast and disposable.
Don't forget, there could be a level of fullofshitness too....
Haha. .
GT
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Basically how much material was used to build the hull.
Heavy=tough as nails and very comfortable.
Light=fragile, fast and disposable.
Don't forget, there could be a level of fullofshitness too....
Haha. .
GT
You joked about burning your float.
Jw, can I see a picture of your boat haha, I couldn't find one.
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You joked about burning your float.
Jw, can I see a picture of your boat haha, I couldn't find one.
As it stands right this very moment, I own 5.
Lmao.
Give me a minute.
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As it stands right this very moment, I own 5.
Lmao.
Give me a minute.
I like your style!!!
And on a side note, this phone app is pretty slick. I just found it.
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I like your style!!!
And on a side note, this phone app is pretty slick. I just found it.
Like whiskey in a six pack. Lmao.
GT
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Just get a 19' eliminator Daytona with a build BBC in it . I've heard those things kick ass .......... 😜
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I was looking at this one, he has it posted in the classifieds.
The downside, it's a 1/4 sringer, and the distance.
http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=24345.0
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I was looking at this one, he has it posted in the classifieds.
The downside, it's a 1/4 sringer, and the distance.
http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=24345.0
That's a cool float man. I was going to get that one before I picked up my avenger
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That's a cool float man. I was going to get that one before I picked up my avenger
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The only downside, you guys are about 24hrs away lol... that's quiet a ways to drive, and then add gas.
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I was looking at this one, he has it posted in the classifieds.
The downside, it's a 1/4 sringer, and the distance.
http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=24345.0
That's my boat up for sale. Any questions go ahead and give me a holler! Good luck on the boat search
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I did it about a month or so ago. I drove about 27 hours straight. From st.louis missouri to los angeles to pick up a new to me boat. Round trip cost me about $800 in gas. But it was worth it. Got to go to the needles and havasu. Its gorgeous there. Well worth it!! Heres a pic of what i picked up. Original interior and original gel from 78
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The only downside, you guys are about 24hrs away lol... that's quiet a ways to drive, and then add gas.
It might make it worth it to do a vacation out here to SoCal and look at some boats.
There is a big inventory out here compared to your area.
Check out the IE craigslist boats section search "jet boat". A lot of potential for a starter boat.
Welcome to SCJB and good luck.
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It might make it worth it to do a vacation out here to SoCal and look at some boats.
There is a big inventory out here compared to your area.
Check out the IE craigslist boats section search "jet boat". A lot of potential for a starter boat.
Welcome to SCJB and good luck.
It's ironic you say that Craigslist area. I've been scanning it weekly, quite a few NICE boats out there. And I'm not a big California guy, but I could give it a chance haha.
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I did it about a month or so ago. I drove about 27 hours straight. From st.louis missouri to los angeles to pick up a new to me boat. Round trip cost me about $800 in gas. But it was worth it. Got to go to the needles and havasu. Its gorgeous there. Well worth it!! Heres a pic of what i picked up. Original interior and original gel from 78
Yea, your not TO far from me, I'm 3 hrs from KC. There's a few floats down by you I've looked at, but nothing trips my trigger.
And yea, if I got a turn key boat out there I could run it on a few of the local lakes befor dragging it 1000s of miles home. I know MO is different from NE, but how hard was it to get your boat titled in a different state?
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Hey Driver4r I'm from st.Joseph mo I drove to Apple valley CA to pick up my hornet, best thing I did. As far as getting titled it was no problem so long as you have titles from CA on the boat and trailer or notorized bill of sale.
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Decent Starts
http://reno.craigslist.org/boa/5522116279.html (http://reno.craigslist.org/boa/5522116279.html)
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/5590895375.html (http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/5590895375.html)
http://yubasutter.craigslist.org/boa/5585122817.html (http://yubasutter.craigslist.org/boa/5585122817.html)
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Not just a bare hull, but looks like a great deal.
1977 Eliminator bubble deck $6800
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/boa/5547297186.html
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This one a little closer to you, needs a little love but everything is there.
Southwind Jet Boat $5000
http://mohave.craigslist.org/boa/5586811278.html
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https://sandusky.craigslist.org/boa/5541665346.html (https://sandusky.craigslist.org/boa/5541665346.html)
$ 3000 no engine Ohio
There was a clean Sleekcraft with no motor near Lansing. But he was asking $6000.
There are not a lot of jet boats around your area.
And the ones they are selling, you would think they had a solid gold paint job for the $$ they are asking. :screwy:
Keep checking the SoCal and Arizona craigslist.
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http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/boa/5591243881.html (http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/boa/5591243881.html)
So Cal $5500 complete Miller. If it is as clean as it looks, this is a great deal.
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A few good looking boats on Facebook down there.
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Crusader is a good hull.
http://www.socaljetboats.com/project-boats/1981-crusader-jet-project/msg309273/?topicseen;PHPSESSID=ddqqv7uk70vmarh7s58oisv9s4#new (http://www.socaljetboats.com/project-boats/1981-crusader-jet-project/msg309273/?topicseen;PHPSESSID=ddqqv7uk70vmarh7s58oisv9s4#new)
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Wow, this is a NICE looking float, I just havnt saved up enough yet lol.
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/boa/5584569089.html (http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/boa/5584569089.html)
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Crusader is a good hull.
http://www.socaljetboats.com/project-boats/1981-crusader-jet-project/msg309273/?topicseen;PHPSESSID=ddqqv7uk70vmarh7s58oisv9s4#new (http://www.socaljetboats.com/project-boats/1981-crusader-jet-project/msg309273/?topicseen;PHPSESSID=ddqqv7uk70vmarh7s58oisv9s4#new)
I saw that a little bit ago, I love the color scheme it has going, the only downside *I feel* is that's quite a bit when it still needs a pump.