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Tech Talk => Hulls => Topic started by: smoothaseggs on August 22, 2014, 08:21:06 PM
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Hello
I picked up a '79 Liberty some time ago and I could have put it in the water but decided to go thru the whole thing. My question is...why don't I see or hear of any liberty boats? is there something i should know? Are they not a good hull? Don't know where to get anymore info on them. The hull and stringers are in good shape. Just thought you guys could provide me with more info or advice before proceeding
Thanks
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If you don't want that liberty I could take it off your hands this weekend......
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Do a search on the site for liberty. There is some info
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Oh yeah I will get in line if you don't want it...lol
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See what I mean...sounds like two people know something about liberty hulls
I will do a search
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They're one of the better hulls....if you don't like turning.
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I own a liberty. There's a handful of guys on this site who own them as well. Not a ton were made but great hulls. Jack from MPD did the research and development for them. Hes a goldmine of information if you need any. The liberty hull (jacks current compjet) holds the kilo record currently. I believe he did 113mph top speed and set it at 108mph.....all within the class limits of a NA 515 cubic inch or less motor, fuel only.
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Liberty's suck, I will be down immediately to remove it from your possession. :)
Actually, I love mine. Handles great
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Old ads..
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Some pics of mine....
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If you decide to go with something more popular (like a Tahiti), you can put my name down for the Liberty. ;)
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mine
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Thanks for all the input guys
As soon as I make some progress I will post some pics
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They're one of the better hulls....if you don't like turning.
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You just have to know how to turn it.
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Is the liberty you speak of tha same as the eliminator liberty
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No....
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YES, eliminator liberty is the same as liberty boat
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No, I do not consider mine an eliminator
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And both liberties are splashed off the hornet
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Ralph
I sent a message
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Nailhead
Awesome pic
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Here's a pic of my 84 eliminator liberty
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All right I'll have to admit Jamie's boat is a nice looking float.
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All right I'll have to admit Jamie's boat is a nice looking float.
picked up that boat for 2000$ dollars came with a stock 454 put my motor in it
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picked up that boat for 2000$ dollars came with a stock 454 put my motor in it
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i won't even begin to talk about what $$$$ I have in mine.
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What kind of speed are you guys getting out of yours with a mild 454/460? I have an outboard powered version, a comparison on performance would be interesting.
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At 5k rpm, GPS said 72. I have another 1800 rpm til rev limiter kicks in. As I race it I won't disclose what that is... But it scared me. Its a 468cid with a lot of compression. But I believe the power comes from the orange paint on the block.
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5k full interior and 15 gallons fuel 76 Mph no ride plate
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No secrets here.
93 mph @ 6700
B+ impeller
Boat scaled at 1940lbs in race trim w/o the overweight driver.
Our 19' is a tank.
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So I put my eliminator liberty in Elsinore today for the 1st time and boy did I learn the hard way this boat does not turn like any boat I've ever owned I turnd around to go after my hat that caught wind and I guess I cut it to hard and spun the dam thing completely around swamp the boat and dam near sunk it gimp it back to the trailer so I could drain the water out of my Cdi box and dizzy and put her back in the water and finished my day so here I think about what happen and I've owned a few different boats and have never spun a boat out is it me or the boat ?????
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Oh boy....here we go.
I can smell the liberty haters comin now.
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I'd immediately sell the hull...to me. The only time I'm able to gain ground on the massive powered Rodgers is when turning.
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Oh boy....here we go.
I can smell the liberty haters comin now.
love the boat just wasn't expecting that to happen specially when I wasn't Goo-fen around I was just cruisen had my wife and kids
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It was your fault...now that said if it scared you enough to sell it put me in line to buy it... I've spun mine more than once and every time it was my fault
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So I put my eliminator liberty in Elsinore today for the 1st time and boy did I learn the hard way this boat does not turn like any boat I've ever owned I turnd around to go after my hat that caught wind and I guess I cut it to hard and spun the dam thing completely around swamp the boat and dam near sunk it gimp it back to the trailer so I could drain the water out of my Cdi box and dizzy and put her back in the water and finished my day so here I think about what happen and I've owned a few different boats and have never spun a boat out is it me or the boat ?????
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Any boat will do that.
Usually becomes less common with seat time.
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Oh boy....here we go.
I can smell the liberty haters comin now.
Are you sure it's not Dude Butt you're smelling?
-beerjet-
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Did Eliminator drop a fin in it? If not do over the winter and it'll be like a totally different boat.
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My 18ft Rogers Bonneville loves to try to spin out you just need to expect it and be ready to steer out of it
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When you say it's the driver's fault. .....what is being done?
Too fast in turn
Too tight of a turn
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When you say it's the driver's fault. .....what is being done?
Too fast in turn
Too tight of a turn
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Yes and yes.
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So I put my eliminator liberty in Elsinore today for the 1st time and boy did I learn the hard way this boat does not turn like any boat I've ever owned I turnd around to go after my hat that caught wind and I guess I cut it to hard and spun the dam thing completely around swamp the boat and dam near sunk it gimp it back to the trailer so I could drain the water out of my Cdi box and dizzy and put her back in the water and finished my day so here I think about what happen and I've owned a few different boats and have never spun a boat out is it me or the boat ?????
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so I'm thinking the fact that I went from a commander mini day cruiser which would take a turn pretty good to a really light eliminator was my problem now I know lesson learned on a better note holy shit I probable gained 10 -15 mph with the same motor
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Small word this is so I was on insta gram looking at boats and seen a comment about six street mafia so I ask what it represented so in response I get a message from a new person that says he owned the boat that I just bought back in 2007 gave me the whole story and all the mods and a cool time line about the boat turns out Tom Papp among a few others jack at mpd have done some of the work on this boat and this boat has been terrorizing Blythe for years and ended up in trucken magazine back in 2004. Talked to the guy for about an hour said he's been to some of the performance regattas at avi back in 04 05 and and said he was one of a small group that started the Tom Papp memorial cool dude glad I got a call from him
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That's a very cool heritage
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Small word this is so I was on insta gram looking at boats and seen a comment about six street mafia so I ask what it represented so in response I get a message from a new person that says he owned the boat that I just bought back in 2007 gave me the whole story and all the mods and a cool time line about the boat turns out Tom Papp among a few others jack at mpd have done some of the work on this boat and this boat has been terrorizing Blythe for years and ended up in trucken magazine back in 2004. Talked to the guy for about an hour said he's been to some of the performance regattas at avi back in 04 05 and and said he was one of a small group that started the Tom Papp memorial cool dude glad I got a call from him
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That's rad!
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