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Tech Talk => Hulls => Topic started by: glenn on June 14, 2012, 02:32:51 PM

Title: what make hull is this
Post by: glenn on June 14, 2012, 02:32:51 PM
hello
my name is glenn and i am from belgium i am a real big fan of jetboats and v-drive boats

i found a hull here in belgium its original a V-drive butt i would like to convert it to a berkley jet drive
can any one of you guys help by telling me what make  and model this boat is and possibly aprox year

its would be so helpfull thanks in advance
glenn

sorry for my bad englisch
Title: Re: what make hull is this
Post by: crewchief22 on June 14, 2012, 02:49:34 PM
There is a good chance there might be a hin number at the right rear corner.  If there is a number post the first three and last three digits.  This should give us the manufacturer and production date.
Title: Re: what make hull is this
Post by: ka0tyk on June 14, 2012, 02:52:19 PM
does it have a HIN# on the rear passenger side?  or on some flatbottoms it was in the middle on the rear. 

id keep it a vdrive.  there is nothing like the feeling of mashing the throttle on a vdrive and going balls out.

if you go to "http://www.performanceboats.com" and look in the for sale section and find a guy named "Mouzer" he has a ton of old vdrive stuff for sale at all times.  Probably enough to build at least 3 boats.  I know you're overseas and it might be a little difficult to ship. 

Title: Re: what make hull is this
Post by: Nordie on June 14, 2012, 03:29:54 PM
I have a good idea of what it is, but seeing the bottom at the transom would give me a better idea. If it what I think it is, it might not make a good jet conversion

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Title: what make hull is this
Post by: NoRestraint on June 14, 2012, 04:47:50 PM
Sanger maybe?
Title: Re: what make hull is this
Post by: SuperJet on June 14, 2012, 05:59:36 PM
Sanger maybe?

Yup it's a Sanger. lol Don't you know, all un-identified flatty's are Sangers until proven otherwise >:D

As far as this one is concerned I would need to see the transom also. And like Crewchief says, if there is a HIN post up the first and last and we can tell you for sure.
Title: Re: what make hull is this
Post by: IRRebel on June 14, 2012, 06:04:17 PM
I doubt Sanger........More guess Hondo!

But what are you gonna do with it in Belgium???

Ray
Title: what make hull is this
Post by: 74hondo on June 14, 2012, 07:36:11 PM
Couldn't guess the make but I will agree with others, keep it a v drive and mouzer is a real cool guy. I bought some seats from him a year ago.
Title: Re: what make hull is this
Post by: glenn on June 14, 2012, 10:35:32 PM
wow realy fast reply's here
hin nr i dont know because i haved bougt the boat yet i wanted more info on the the hull first
i will email the guy today for possible hin nr  its a 2 hour drive over there so its a long way to go just to get a hin nr en some pics

about the v-drive conversion


the boat does not have any of the vdrive components noteven the skeg in the middle
butt i do have a berkley pump in my garage that i bougt a  year a go to do this kind of projeckt its a berkley JE

can any telll me why it would not be a good idee if not for the performance of a v drive

@ka0tyk
 sounds like fun with a v drive like you said ball tru the wall butt the engine i would install is just a normal chevy V8 350 cub
season for that is


1 - big blocks are rare here in belgium
2 - whitch the feul cost here in belgium i can not pay for the feal consumption of a 1000 hp engine

@IRRebel i whas planning to go out on the channel if it does a topspeed of 45 miles/h it would super

i will try to get the hin nr as fast as possible 

now i go out boating with my self remade " offschore looking " speedboat 21 ft

again thanks in advance en sorry for my bad englisch

grts glenn
Title: Re: what make hull is this
Post by: IRRebel on June 15, 2012, 08:15:06 AM
First off, the v-drive is going to be more fuel efficient than the jet, and be able to work well with the small block chevy engine. A jet/small block configuration normally doesn't work well together, although these newer LS engines people are using seem to be changing that.

The other part of it is, IF that's a flatbottom hull, game over putting a jet in it at all, nd if it's not, putting a JE is a LOT of 'glass work. (Insert pump, not like the other berkeley pumps)

Ray
Title: Re: what make hull is this
Post by: mash on it on June 16, 2012, 12:35:05 PM
A jet/small block configuration normally doesn't work well together,


WHY?  :screwy:

sbc, 19' Saguaro bowrider, "A" Impeller, 55+ mph w/3 adults, gear, cooler, etc., over 60 solo. 5 mpg too  :thumbup:

Flatbottom and a pump, although not ideal, would work (he's got the parts)

Jegs and Summit ship overseas too

just my $0.02

Daniel
Mash on it
Title: Re: what make hull is this
Post by: glenn on June 16, 2012, 12:51:34 PM
just got bad news the hull has been sold  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :mad: :mad:
on the other side her hull whas as flat as a panncake so it would have been a good to start from acourding to you guys


this means i am gona have to build a jetboat myself  O0

do any of you guys have plans or data for a good jetboat hull ???

i need a projeckt for this summer i am getting bored


sorry for the trouble
grts glenn
Title: Re: what make hull is this
Post by: mash on it on June 16, 2012, 02:02:02 PM
try this:
http://www.glen-l.com/designs/inboard/rampage.html (http://www.glen-l.com/designs/inboard/rampage.html)

or this:
http://www.glen-l.com/boat-plans-catalog-300-boats-you-can-build/ (http://www.glen-l.com/boat-plans-catalog-300-boats-you-can-build/)
Title: Re: what make hull is this
Post by: glenn on July 07, 2012, 01:13:25 PM
Hey guys its been a while
I have got some great news the boat that i wanted to buy popt up back on the internet and bougt it in a hartbeat

Yess i know its a flatty butt i am planning to cut the hull out and rebuilt as a superjet,
I know it will be whole lot of work butt i am used to it at this time

The hin nr is sanhc2610473

Could somebody tell at what angle of deadrise a superjethull is build


Thanks glenn
Title: Re: what make hull is this
Post by: propless on July 07, 2012, 10:48:47 PM
Well I can tell you this.  What you have is a 1973 Sanger flatbottom, and its a heavy layup. First three letters of the HIN make it a Sanger (san), the h makes it a heavy layup and the last to numbers are the year, 73.
Title: Re: what make hull is this
Post by: glenn on July 08, 2012, 06:43:35 AM
Heavy lay up thats a good thing right?
Title: Re: what make hull is this
Post by: propless on July 09, 2012, 03:21:47 PM
Heavy lay up thats a good thing right?

 Depends on you point of view.  Heavy = thick, strong, but heavy.  Good cruiser / lake boat.   They made 4 versions as far as lay up, H = heavy, M = medium, L = light, and SL = super light.  SL was only for the race boats.

 There was also many different lengths of Sangers, 17' 10", 18' 3", 18' 6", 18' 10", etc, etc.  As well as different bottom designs among the "flats". There where true flats, runner bottoms, and the gullwing.  That one looks to be a true flat. 

 Hers an idea for you.  Sense you going to chop the bottom off and build a jet friendly bottom, why not get creative and build it into a tunnel hull ? 

 And as far as that JE pump you have,  :thumbdown:   You would be way better of finding a "normal" pump.  That insert pump is going to turn into a real pain in the azz to get right.  You might get ahold of Tom over at Jet boat Performance though.  Maybe the next time he chops up a boat to replace one of those things with a standard pump set up, he can save you the insert section.  He might even a section sitting in the trash pile.  ;)

 

 
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