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Tech Talk => Hulls => Topic started by: jy84Sleek on April 30, 2010, 07:33:15 AM

Title: What to look for in a race hull
Post by: jy84Sleek on April 30, 2010, 07:33:15 AM
So I've been kicking around getting into NJ/CJ. I pretty much spend most of the day thinking about it and after going to the Parker races it looks like a freakin blast to do! I have looked at all the racing info here, at cjr.com, apba, scsc, etc. Money is a little tight so it would take some time to get a boat together, but would be feasible. Is there a preferred design( V or semi-v), strake,  and length?  Is it better to buy a hull that has already been raced as long as it's not beat to sh%t? Any and all info is appreciated. Thanks. Jared
Title: Re: What to look for in a race hull
Post by: Nailhead on April 30, 2010, 08:06:14 AM
It would be cheaper for you to buy a already rigged to race hull if you want a full blown race boat. If you want to go out and just give it a try, any full stringer hull will do. Some proven race hulls are, Liberty, Rogers, D'Cucci, Advantage(Rogers), Bahner SST(Rogers bottom), Sleekcraft SST v-bottom, Hornet, Rayson Craft, etc. Here is our Liberty,
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Title: Re: What to look for in a race hull
Post by: IRRebel on April 30, 2010, 08:50:14 AM
I agree with that. Tossed the idea around, and researched it myself quite a bit. The real idea behind NJ/CJ racing is that ANY hull can be competetive. Full stringer required for CJ, but not for NJ. These guys know the rules better than me, but I would not be looking for a "Race Hull" if you're purely going to run those classes. It's really designed to be a class for us "shade-tree mechanics" on a budget, as I understand it, and get more people involved in the sport.

IMO, Just look for a good, solid hull to begin with and go from there. If I didn't have so much going on right now, I'd probably be looking more seriously at it. Maybe next year.

Ray
Title: Re: What to look for in a race hull
Post by: Luckie Stiff on April 30, 2010, 08:55:57 AM
According to the NJ chairman, full stringers are required in NJ as well. If you're serious about going racing, look for a Rogers or Liberty hull, they're out there, you just gotta be ready for them when they show up.
Title: Re: What to look for in a race hull
Post by: jy84Sleek on April 30, 2010, 01:11:54 PM
Thanks for the info guys. Most of the boats I have seen, either in pictures or from word of mouth, have been Liberty and Rogers hulls. If I can get my Sleek sold I plan to roll that money over in to a hull. Is there a preferred(comfortable) length to run? If I remember  I think the rules state up to a 21 ft. boat with nothing over 24 feet total including the pump. Not sure, but Maybe I'm wrong. Thanks again. Jared
Title: Re: What to look for in a race hull
Post by: Ralph Brunt on April 30, 2010, 02:35:08 PM
liberty's and hornets have the same bottom
Title: Re: What to look for in a race hull
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on April 30, 2010, 02:44:12 PM
although you can go up to 24ft total length, i highly suggest not going that large if you plan on being serious about it. the larger boats havent had much success in the class as being competitive. if youre just looking to try CJ once or twice, go for it  :thumbup:

i would stay in the 17-19 foot range...full stringer...low profile...not too steep of an entry...something solid, but light.

Title: Re: What to look for in a race hull
Post by: MADSKILLZ on April 30, 2010, 03:30:55 PM
Our D-cucci C/J 222 boat is up for sale. PM me if interested. Nick
Title: Re: What to look for in a race hull
Post by: jy84Sleek on April 30, 2010, 04:26:46 PM
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...not too steep of an entry...

This maybe a dumb question or I'm just over looking it, but what do you mean by this? Thanks. Jared
Title: Re: What to look for in a race hull
Post by: fast fred on May 04, 2010, 01:09:03 PM
although you can go up to 24ft total length, i highly suggest not going that large if you plan on being serious about it. the larger boats havent had much success in the class as being competitive. if youre just looking to try CJ once or twice, go for it  :thumbup:

i would stay in the 17-19 foot range...full stringer...low profile...not too steep of an entry...something solid, but light.


Your not taking a stab at anyone are you Brad? lol Matt
Title: Re: What to look for in a race hull
Post by: wizard612 on May 27, 2010, 12:43:52 PM
A steep entry means a deep bow.  The original Rogers Cyclone vintage 71 and earlier had a deep bow they tend to catch it in a turn making them easy to spin. They can also catch at top end on a straight when the waters ruff it's then swimmin time. A low entry bow looks almost like a flat bottom bow (pointier) like Nailheads pix.
Title: Re: What to look for in a race hull
Post by: lbhsbz on July 14, 2010, 12:26:40 AM
if you're cheap, like me....I've got a deal for you. 

I've got a  boat that is a splash of a hornet bottom...has some good botom work done too.  Needs stringers and paint.  Give me $300 for the trailer and you get to the keep the boat that's on top of it.  Replace the stringers yourself, throw a motor/pump/turn fin in it and you've got a good starting point for a CJ boat. 
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