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Tech Talk => Interior => Topic started by: HDriderTH on May 06, 2007, 08:14:43 AM

Title: dragboat buckets
Post by: HDriderTH on May 06, 2007, 08:14:43 AM
Where the fudge can I get some of the little fiberglass buckets seats!?!?
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: hotrod56cars on May 06, 2007, 09:48:38 AM
In about a week or two you can get them from me, but I'm not sure otherwise. I'm hoping to also be able to provide rear bench seats that match the front and some other cool stuff.   ;)
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: hotrod56cars on May 06, 2007, 10:00:56 AM
Anybody ever wanted something built out of fiberglass and wish it was available? What was it! Thanks.
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: beerjet on May 06, 2007, 12:20:23 PM
Anybody ever wanted something built out of fiberglass and wish it was available? What was it! Thanks.
My scoop .
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: hotrod56cars on May 06, 2007, 03:44:11 PM
My scoop .

Buy it on eBay, the guy is selling your scoop on eBay uncut. I don't want to copy the scoop and sell it for less than what the guy is selling his scoops for.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=250111159555&rd=1,1
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: beerjet on May 06, 2007, 06:10:14 PM
Buy it on eBay, the guy is selling your scoop on eBay uncut. I don't want to copy the scoop and sell it for less than what the guy is selling his scoops for.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=250111159555&rd=1,1
I'll copy and sell mine though .

-beerjet-
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: hotrod56cars on May 06, 2007, 07:07:21 PM
I'll copy and sell mine though .

-beerjet-

It's totally do-able, but if you plan on selling it on eBay you'll have to sell it cheaper than the what's already on there. Is it worth it?
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: beerjet on May 06, 2007, 07:33:25 PM
It's totally do-able, but if you plan on selling it on eBay you'll have to sell it cheaper than the what's already on there. Is it worth it?
Mine sits kind of funny on some plate to raise it up from the carb also . I can explore other avenues.

-beerjet-
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: hotrod56cars on May 06, 2007, 07:36:03 PM
It's raised up (probably) to clear the float level adjustments on your BG Holley. Two more ? 1 inch holes in the scoop and it doesn't need to be raised off the carb at all.   ;)
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: AQUAHOLIC on May 06, 2007, 08:39:09 PM
hannemann fiberglass
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: beerjet on May 06, 2007, 10:06:31 PM
It's raised up (probably) to clear the float level adjustments on your BG Holley. Two more ? 1 inch holes in the scoop and it doesn't need to be raised off the carb at all.   ;)
It does have the two 1" holes but I think they screwed up by cutting the hole for the arrestor and not the carb flange.

-beerjet-
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: HDriderTH on May 07, 2007, 04:55:54 PM
So whats the story on the seats Omar...Rod.
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: beerjet on May 07, 2007, 07:25:25 PM
So whats the story on the seats Omar...Rod.
Dragboatcity.com (http://Dragboatcity.com) Not the cheapest but they were the widest for me .

-beerjet-
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: HDriderTH on May 07, 2007, 08:20:59 PM
Yea i saw those, thot maybe somebody had some comming up. Rod said he had something going on. Talk to me brutha man. Otherwies I'll prolly bite the bullet and snag a few of those off DB city.
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: Marcsrollin on May 07, 2007, 08:38:13 PM
Rod and I just finished our mold of one and should have some made in a couple of days to a week!
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: HDriderTH on May 07, 2007, 09:25:19 PM
Kewl, got any pics? I saw a scoop like Omars on ebay, not the one that has been posted here, simaler but has the two holes in the front with a little strip down the middle. They show a bunch of pics on oldtime dragsters. I think he's been getting 140 a pop for them. Next time i see 'em i'll post a pic.
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: HDriderTH on May 07, 2007, 09:35:49 PM
Check this out, looks like a freakin shark:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hot-Rod-Scoop-Rat-Rod-Pro-Street-Gasser-Blower_W0QQitemZ300108059983QQihZ020QQcategoryZ43946QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: hotrod56cars on May 07, 2007, 10:21:27 PM
Marc and I are currecntly in the middle stages of R & D. We're definately going to have bucket seats soon. If I can talk Marc into it we'll have more cool stuff later..

Here's a sneak peek.   ;)   ;D
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: hotrod56cars on May 07, 2007, 10:23:14 PM
OK, maybe in the early stages of R & D.   ;D
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on May 07, 2007, 10:38:00 PM
Marc and I were talkin about this project on the way up to ming....I think they would look extra supa dupa dope if you made them carbon fiber....but that will take some serious skillz.
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: hotrod56cars on May 07, 2007, 11:00:34 PM
Marc and I were talkin about this project on the way up to ming....I think they would look extra supa dupa dope if you made them carbon fiber....but that will take some serious skillz.

That's one of many idea's that I have...
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: hotrod56cars on May 10, 2007, 08:11:00 PM
Marc and I made a mold. Only thing that's left for the mold is to smooth out a couple of "spots". Then when we stood back and looked at our creation we realized that the major supplier of these expensive seats makes them fockin' crooked!   >:(  We then went on the internet and found out that the pics of the seats you see are usually taken in a way that you can't tell that they are crooked.   >:(  However, Marc and I compared them to every single drag boat style of seat we could find and they were all exactly the same - crooked.   Whether they were recently bought off of eBay, in an older drag jet, or on several older v-drives  ;D

Marc's and my plan is to offer a quality product. So we're going to eliminate the ribs on the mold, cut the mold much straighter than the "other guy's" seats, make smooth backed seats first, and after a few of those we'll make a bucket with straight "ribs" on it's back.

I'm curious to know, just in general, if you like drag boat seats with or without the "ribs" on the back of it?
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: HDriderTH on May 10, 2007, 08:25:46 PM
Ribs
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: hotrod56cars on May 10, 2007, 08:28:30 PM
Crooked ribs or straight ribs?  Seriously.
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: HDriderTH on May 10, 2007, 09:33:19 PM
crooked....nah, i dunno Rod, it's not like theres a right and a left right, I'd staighten 'em
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on May 11, 2007, 07:42:22 AM
I would assume the ribs are there to help eliminate flex in the back of the seat.

I suggest filling the ribs in your mold and create a ribless bucket. Then take that bucket and add some quality ribs that are straight to it. Maybe use a clay to make them. Then create a new mold with straight ribs.

take the previous guys work and make it better, i say.

take no shortcuts and it will be a quality product in the end.
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: Marcsrollin on May 11, 2007, 08:18:45 AM
I would assume the ribs are there to help eliminate flex in the back of the seat.

I suggest filling the ribs in your mold and create a ribless bucket. Then take that bucket and add some quality ribs that are straight to it. Maybe use a clay to make them. Then create a new mold with straight ribs.

take the previous guys work and make it better, i say.

take no shortcuts and it will be a quality product in the end.

 That's funny you would say that , that is exactly what we discussed! Almost word for word!
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: The Chaz on May 11, 2007, 04:50:49 PM
If ALL the seats have crooked ribs, and it isn't on purpose (maybe it gives the appearance of being straight when mounted at the slight angle of the boat? ::)) probably not >:D  fix it and people will buy them just to have straight seats.  I know I would buy the straight one at a comprable price if given the choice.  Especially if you advertise it that way.  my .02
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: beerjet on May 11, 2007, 10:01:49 PM
Marc and Rod are the only two people I've ever heard talk about crooked ribs . If your selling them cheap enough , Another fourty years will pass and no one will notice . I really wouldn't even worry about it .

-beerjet-
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: hotrod56cars on May 11, 2007, 10:08:03 PM
I'm thinking of maybe getting a few seats out that match the competition's (just to get some freakin' cash), then make a few rib-less seats, then some with straight ribs, then some matching back seats, then ...

I'll have to talk with Marc about it and see what he thinks, so far he's sponsored ($) the whole project.
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: old rigger on May 19, 2007, 10:39:58 AM
The original bucket seats like those were built using a small oil drum as the plug cut down to the shape needed for the seat and then modified from there, that's where the 2 'ribs' came from. Well let me go back, I'm not sure they were the 'first' ones done, but many years ago I saw a set tooled up like that, but they didn't hav crooked ribs.
 
Jim at Cyclone still offers the buckets and a back seat too.

I designed and tooled up a bench seat for a guy that was going to build a set of molds from it, and my idea was to make the mold adjustable so it had inserts in the back of it so the width could be adjusted to fit the hull. I think I built 3 different inserts, longer in 1 intervals, so the mold was a 3 piece deal instead on a one piece. It was pretty cool, and had 2 ribs in it as well but like a few others have done through the years, he screwed me outa some money, so I destroyed the plug...infront of him too. lol It was almost worth it to see the look on his face.  ;)
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: hotrod56cars on May 19, 2007, 12:04:33 PM
I'm having a tough time getting Marc over here and then actually working on the seats, or working on anything really. I can't blame him 'cause I wish I was in his shoe's, although they are too small for me. (Next thing you know he'll be over here complaining that I won't work on the seats.  ;D )
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: beerjet on May 19, 2007, 01:08:33 PM
The ribless seat just look low budget to me. My .02

-beerjet-
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: Airin it Out on January 03, 2008, 02:41:39 PM
Marc and I made a mold. Only thing that's left for the mold is to smooth out a couple of "spots". Then when we stood back and looked at our creation we realized that the major supplier of these expensive seats makes them fockin' crooked!   >:(  We then went on the internet and found out that the pics of the seats you see are usually taken in a way that you can't tell that they are crooked.   >:(  However, Marc and I compared them to every single drag boat style of seat we could find and they were all exactly the same - crooked.   Whether they were recently bought off of eBay, in an older drag jet, or on several older v-drives  ;D

Marc's and my plan is to offer a quality product. So we're going to eliminate the ribs on the mold, cut the mold much straighter than the "other guy's" seats, make smooth backed seats first, and after a few of those we'll make a bucket with straight "ribs" on it's back.

I'm curious to know, just in general, if you like drag boat seats with or without the "ribs" on the back of it?


Did you ever get the molds done for the ribless seats?  Please let me know.  I'll try and send you a message direct also.  Thanks!
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: hotrod56cars on January 03, 2008, 06:02:36 PM
We never finished it. Still sitting in my garage.   :P
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: hotrod56cars on January 03, 2008, 06:45:16 PM
marcsrollin and I are thinking about re-starting this project up. I'm looking for a general consenses of this forum if you think you'd pay $80 a seat - assuming you were looking for seats in the first place.
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: Airin it Out on January 04, 2008, 06:42:15 AM
Like I said in my PM to you, I'd like two of the ribless seats in white.  I think I probably have to more sold also.  I'm sure if you posted on Powerboats, River Dave's website, dragboats.com and Texas hot boats you would have more interests and potential customers.  I constantly see folks on these site looking for seats just like I am.  Let me know if you decide to make a few seats. 
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: 82daytona on January 12, 2008, 06:22:28 PM
I have some ribbless seats I posted for sale 200$
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: beerjet on January 12, 2008, 07:01:34 PM
Thats cool ! I see how it is , now you have seats .........  ;D

-beerjet-
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: 82daytona on January 12, 2008, 07:04:22 PM
Thats cool ! I see how it is , now you have seats .........  ;D

-beerjet-
if you want em you got em
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: beerjet on January 12, 2008, 07:17:28 PM
if you want em you got em
I'm just grillin ya bro . I really do like how they have the high sides on them though . I actually took the seat pad insert on mine to make me sit lower in the seat . Alot more secure feeling .

-beerjet-
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: syco on January 23, 2008, 07:49:16 PM
marcsrollin and I are thinking about re-starting this project up. I'm looking for a general consenses of this forum if you think you'd pay $80 a seat - assuming you were looking for seats in the first place.
What is the width of the seats your building?
 80 bucks a piece sounds fair.
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: flytime on January 23, 2008, 07:58:59 PM
Ribs. No ribs looks too plain.
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: Airin it Out on February 10, 2008, 01:29:32 PM
hotrod56

Any progress on those ribless bucket seats?  I need a set w/in about 30 days.  Let me know.  Thanks!
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: Luckie Stiff on February 24, 2008, 05:10:30 PM
In about a week or two you can get them from me, but I'm not sure otherwise. I'm hoping to also be able to provide rear bench seats that match the front and some other cool stuff.   ;)

Rod, your week is up, I need 2 buckets, and a rear bench, have Marc bring them to Ming  ;D
Seriously, are you going to be doing this?
Skip
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: Marcsrollin on February 24, 2008, 05:27:03 PM
We dropped the ball on that project a long time ago. We never even finished the final touches on the mold.

But there is a strong possibility we will get the ball rolling in the near future. We will be sure to update this thread when we do.
Title: Re: dragboat buckets
Post by: hotrod56cars on February 24, 2008, 05:43:47 PM
We dropped the ball on that project a long time ago. We never even finished the final touches on the mold.

But there is a strong possibility we will get the ball rolling in the near future. We will be sure to update this thread when we do.

No one's fault on who specifically dropped the ball as I didn't even have my eyes open to see who dropped it.  :screwy:

The amount of time needed to spend and the amount of $$$ required for the investment vs. end product selling price isn't adding up for me. Marc seem's to be suggesting otherwise. He's got a much higher IQ and I'm older and wiser. LOL  I haven't been able to find the back seat I'm looking for and one of my front buckets is cracked so...  :-\
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