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Tech Talk => Interior => Topic started by: Brad @ SCJB on April 07, 2014, 04:11:14 PM

Title: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on April 07, 2014, 04:11:14 PM
What ideas do you guys have to hold down an engine cover / sun deck? My dads old cruiser used a contraption that looked like it came off a car to hold the hood down. Had a handle hidden to release it.

What other ways have you guys seen this done?

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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: riptide84 on April 07, 2014, 04:34:14 PM
I've seen a couple held down with really gnarly velcro.. Don't know how well it worked though
Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: ka0tyk on April 07, 2014, 04:41:20 PM
my dads daycruiser had 2 vinyl straps that were screwed down with 2 button snaps to the hatch. 

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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: Your Mom on April 07, 2014, 05:56:41 PM
I used a SS hatch latch with thru bolt arm. I made a plate on the hatch side to keep the integrity of wood. A fail safe is the ski pole just in case I hit a big wake or forgot to lock it...this one might work for you mounted to hatch either center front or one on each front corner with a plate of some kind on the fixed side to latch onto. http://www.ebay.com/itm/GEM-4252-STAINLESS-STEEL-LOCKING-LATCH-W-O-KEY-PLATE-3-MARINE-BOAT-/231199468377 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/GEM-4252-STAINLESS-STEEL-LOCKING-LATCH-W-O-KEY-PLATE-3-MARINE-BOAT-/231199468377)
This is mine
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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: tim76spectra on April 07, 2014, 07:09:54 PM
Just bought these. Quick-latch.com  can hold up to 600lbs a piece. Look really good. Set up the same way as hood pins.


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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: Your Mom on April 07, 2014, 07:34:29 PM
Just bought these. Quick-latch.com  can hold up to 600lbs a piece. Look really good. Set up the same way as hood pins.


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I wish I found these before I built my interior... the locking ones are top notch. Post some install pics when you can.
Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: tim76spectra on April 07, 2014, 07:38:01 PM
I will post pics of them installed when i can.


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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: randog on April 07, 2014, 07:40:55 PM
http://m.ebay.com/itm/191124048741


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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: randog on April 07, 2014, 07:54:46 PM
You could mount the latches in the back seat and put the strikers in the lid and find a clean car door handle to put in the top of the back seat with pull rods to pop the latches or do one latch in the middle and use a choke cable to pop it or go all out and get some door actuator and wire them in to a switch on the dash


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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: Ralph Brunt on April 07, 2014, 07:59:57 PM
nothing, when i made mine i made it so tight that when upolstery was put on it damn near doesn't shut, and when it is down it i have to stand on the back seat and pull really hard to get it up...
Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on April 07, 2014, 09:48:30 PM
thanks for posting those quick latch deals....pretty trick. I think I'll go with those.

Borrowed a friends boat once and it had the straps from under that pulled through the rear bench and snapped it (like kaotic described)....well i forgot to fasten them and the lid flew up while towing it....broke the hydrolic lifts and cut the upholstery when it flipped over and hit the outdrive. I did this TWICE. 2nd time was after I had it fixed it the first time.  :banghead:

I am just looking for a stupid proof way of dealing with this without the possibility of forgetting to strap it down.
Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on April 07, 2014, 09:53:54 PM
whoa. those quik latch deals are $300 a pair  :thumbdown:


maybe looking for something a little more economical
Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: Havasukona455 on April 07, 2014, 09:56:35 PM
Is this a big thing ? I have a hatch over my motor as well but mine goes down even with the back seat so I don't see the wind pulling it up while towing/driving down river


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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on April 07, 2014, 10:09:03 PM
this one mates with the back seat creating the top roll in the back of the seat.

I am sure with the wind traveling straight down between the front seats and hitting the back seat, it will create some lift. All it takes is a little lift from a bump in the road and poof....its off like a kite.

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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on April 07, 2014, 10:09:42 PM
and NO, the ratchet strap pictured is NOT a considerable option lol
Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: GT Jets on April 07, 2014, 10:13:25 PM
Do what I did.

Buy a 12VDC satellite dish positioner....

Like so.   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Xscorpion-XLA04-Heavy-Duty-12V-DC-450lb-4-Linear-Actuator-w-Adjustable-Stroke-/151265551919?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item233821262f (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Xscorpion-XLA04-Heavy-Duty-12V-DC-450lb-4-Linear-Actuator-w-Adjustable-Stroke-/151265551919?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item233821262f)

They are stupid strong, just be sure to make an access with a quick release pin in case of electrical problems. These work sweet.

Just a double pole, double throw switch and a fuse and you can open the engine cover from the dash.... PIMP!
Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: GT Jets on April 07, 2014, 10:16:04 PM
Here is the one we have in the Crusader.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Xscorpion-XLA24-12V-DC-450lb-Static-24-Linear-Actuator-with-Adjustable-Stroke-/181324267049?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a37c4be29 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Xscorpion-XLA24-12V-DC-450lb-Static-24-Linear-Actuator-with-Adjustable-Stroke-/181324267049?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a37c4be29)
Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on April 07, 2014, 10:16:58 PM
What's the travel on those?

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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: Squirrel Master on April 07, 2014, 10:17:32 PM
Just thinking kool but cheap
Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: GT Jets on April 07, 2014, 10:21:20 PM
What's the travel on those?

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The one on the Carerra is a short little bitch, only uses 3" or 4", but the hatch I built only weighs 19 pounds...

The one on the Crusader cruiser is like a couple feet, the hatch weighs more than me...LOL
Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on April 07, 2014, 10:22:21 PM
Ya this hatch was built to dance on. It weighs a ton.

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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: GT Jets on April 07, 2014, 10:31:11 PM
Ya this hatch was built to dance on. It weighs a ton.

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The second one I posted will lift it with you on it...  ;)
Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: SoCalPSD on April 07, 2014, 10:33:00 PM
Flip the hinges around so it folds forwards not backwards



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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: beerjet on April 07, 2014, 10:38:19 PM
Flip the hinges around so it folds forwards not backwards



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Makes it impossible to work on while in the water. 

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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: GT Jets on April 07, 2014, 10:46:22 PM
Makes it impossible to work on while in the water. 

-beerjet-


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Title: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: SoCalPSD on April 07, 2014, 10:55:56 PM
 It's got swim steps. And if it's folded forward, bam sunshade for that afternoon nap. And when he's working on it it also double as a work bench.


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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: beerjet on April 07, 2014, 11:06:29 PM
It's got swim steps. And if it's folded forward, bam sunshade for that afternoon nap. And when he's working on it it also double as a work bench.


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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: tim76spectra on April 08, 2014, 06:32:03 AM
I bought the mini quick latch for $27 a piece. Even after upgrading the springs it was still less than $35. Sorry I misspoke they are rated for 150lbs a latch before failure. Still don't think that will be a problem.





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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: rush1 on April 08, 2014, 06:36:17 AM
How about some old school car hood pins

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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: Havasukona455 on April 08, 2014, 08:03:09 AM

How about some old school car hood pins

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Exactly what I was thinking. There pretty cheap and work good... When you remember to put the good pins in lol


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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on April 08, 2014, 08:39:38 AM
I can see someone catching a toe or something on hood pins. I want something a little cleaner.

I like the electronic lift idea Glenn suggested.
Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: beerjet on April 08, 2014, 08:57:36 AM
Sean (83 crusader) had a really cool way of doing his.
Wish I had pics.
It ain't nothing you could do on this short of notice but I would definitely look into it

-beerjet-

Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: ka0tyk on April 08, 2014, 09:32:47 AM
Makes it impossible to work on while in the water. 

-beerjet-

why even put a hatch on it if you are anticipating it being broken down that much? 
Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: beerjet on April 08, 2014, 09:34:10 AM
why even put a hatch on it if you are anticipating it being broken down that much?
Good point.
I say no hatch...

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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: JacksEliminator on April 08, 2014, 10:02:50 AM
I have a couple snaps on mine.
Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on April 11, 2014, 10:29:33 AM
Annnnnnd it just happened. FOCK!

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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on April 11, 2014, 10:44:32 AM
Ripped the hinges off...broke off the swim step....then a semi ran it over. Great start to the weekend!

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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: ka0tyk on April 11, 2014, 10:54:51 AM
Ripped the hinges off...broke off the swim step....then a semi ran it over. Great start to the weekend!

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the beer didnt fall out though right? 

bummer about your hatch.  worst case you couldve just stuck some fat ladies on it to hold it down.  hopefully there isnt too much damage and you can still enjoy your weekend.
Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: rush1 on April 11, 2014, 11:12:59 AM
That sucks sorry to hear that

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Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: 74hondo on April 11, 2014, 11:15:24 AM
Damn :(
Title: Re: Holding down engine cover / sun deck
Post by: More2LifeThanMPG on April 11, 2014, 02:59:33 PM

Ripped the hinges off...broke off the swim step....then a semi ran it over. Great start to the weekend!

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That budgie is looking pretty good right now huh?

Sorry to hear that there is nothing worse than shit happening on the way to the river!


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