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Tech Talk => Interior => Topic started by: nathan72 on May 22, 2009, 11:09:44 PM

Title: new steering
Post by: nathan72 on May 22, 2009, 11:09:44 PM
So I got a new teleflex rack system frum tom and put it in everything went grate tel I got to the steering wheel. Wtf there is no key way on my steering wheel and my old wheel will fit over the threds but not the shaft I can notch it out I guess. I don't think the bezel will fit if I do that! I don't know I need help!  I'm going to post some pic in a little thanks guys
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: nathan72 on May 22, 2009, 11:37:32 PM
i am going to try to get it back together by sunday! thanks tom for getting it to me so fast you are the man!
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: HDriderTH on May 22, 2009, 11:45:07 PM
So.................whatcha gonna do with the little white wheel ya got left over?   ;) ;D
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: nathan72 on May 22, 2009, 11:47:58 PM
i guess im going to send it to you!  ;D
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: IRRebel on May 22, 2009, 11:59:31 PM
Terry needs one for the Titanic he's about to aquire methinks.

Ray
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: HDriderTH on May 23, 2009, 12:02:11 AM
I'm thinkin it would look cool on the Sanger!
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: HDriderTH on May 23, 2009, 12:03:36 AM
Lemme see more of your boat, maybe i got something you could use...
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: nathan72 on May 23, 2009, 12:15:15 AM
  :)
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: IRRebel on May 23, 2009, 12:19:03 AM
OK, I LOVE where the morse lever is! that is COOL, but why 4 o/b dumps? 2 Bilge pumps?

OK, Idiot questions over,

Ray
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: HDriderTH on May 23, 2009, 12:26:57 AM
shit that thing is nice, doesnt need anything   :(
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: nathan72 on May 23, 2009, 12:33:08 AM
the guy i git it frum had 3 outlets on the block 1 to the haeder T and 2 o/b dump frum block 1 bilge pump and 1 right out of the pump  ???  :screwy: he was old as hell (93) he sold it cuz he had a hard time steering it.
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: nathan72 on May 23, 2009, 08:08:44 AM
http://www.downloadingfiles.co.uk/teleflexfiles/library/instructionmanuals/IS-SH5210_15.PDF
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: nathan72 on May 23, 2009, 02:09:57 PM
i think i might be missing something? so i drilled and taped a hole in the shaft 1/4 20  then drilled a small hole right next to it and put a pin to hold everything together i hope it works. i hate to  O0 rig stuff.
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: HDriderTH on May 23, 2009, 03:52:29 PM
I think you need to make sure your rack is under the helm, other wies steering will be reversed. I think thats how it goes, under the rack. Quick check before you head out to the water. You wouldnt be the first to have it backwards, I think three or four of us have done it including myself.
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: HDriderTH on May 23, 2009, 03:54:07 PM
Yea, I could use the litle white wheel if ya dont have plans for it. PM me w/ what you need for it.
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: Oldsquirt on May 23, 2009, 05:50:57 PM
i think i might be missing something? so i drilled and taped a hole in the shaft 1/4 20  then drilled a small hole right next to it and put a pin to hold everything together i hope it works. i hate to  O0 rig stuff.

STOP!!!!!!!!!!!

You are going about this WRONG! It appears you are switching from a Mercury Marine rack&pinion. That unit used a tapered square shaft. You Teleflex should be a tapered shaft(or is that one a straight round shaft I see?) with keyway. All you need to properly connect your steering wheel is the correct adapter(the tapered aluminum piece you show on the helm in pic 2). They are available at most any performance marine outlet. This page at Rex Marine should give you an idea of what you need.  Steering adapters (http://www.rexmar.com/page91.html)

I've mentioned this before, but these are the "extras" that no one ever seems to consider when pricing out steering changeovers.
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: Oldsquirt on May 23, 2009, 05:58:54 PM
I think you need to make sure your rack is under the helm, other wies steering will be reversed. I think thats how it goes, under the rack. Quick check before you head out to the water. You wouldnt be the first to have it backwards, I think three or four of us have done it including myself.

The placement of the rack to helm will depend on several things: which direction the cable is routed from helm(left or right) and which side of the pump the cable connects to( a stock JC/JG connects on left, a stock JE/JF connects on the right. With a JC/JG style, and cable exiting to left side, rack should be below. With the JE/JF, and cable exiting to the left, rack is mounted to top side of helm.

Best advice is to check and double check that the nozzle swings to right when wheel is turned right and to the left when wheel is turned left. :D
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: IRRebel on May 23, 2009, 09:04:50 PM
The placement of the rack to helm will depend on several things: which direction the cable is routed from helm(left or right) and which side of the pump the cable connects to( a stock JC/JG connects on left, a stock JE/JF connects on the right. With a JC/JG style, and cable exiting to left side, rack should be below. With the JE/JF, and cable exiting to the left, rack is mounted to top side of helm.

Best advice is to check and double check that the nozzle swings to right when wheel is turned right and to the left when wheel is turned left. :D


I can't verify this since the Blue one isn't here. Can tell you it makes sense, but I know for a fact both boats the steering cable exits left but can't be sure on which side the blue one steers by (JC pump). The moo does steer by the right side of the pump, (JE pump).

Next week I prolly could.

Ray
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: nathan72 on May 23, 2009, 10:51:13 PM
STOP!!!!!!!!!!!

You are going about this WRONG! It appears you are switching from a Mercury Marine rack&pinion. That unit used a tapered square shaft. You Teleflex should be a tapered shaft(or is that one a straight round shaft I see?) with keyway. All you need to properly connect your steering wheel is the correct adapter(the tapered aluminum piece you show on the helm in pic 2). They are available at most any performance marine outlet. This page at Rex Marine should give you an idea of what you need.  Steering adapters (http://www.rexmar.com/page91.html)

I've mentioned this before, but these are the "extras" that no one ever seems to consider when pricing out steering changeovers.
  that would make sence! the new one has a round tapered shaft and the old one is square! the bad thing is i need it now so its back to  O0 riging it. i want to float that thing tomarrow. ill be calling tom on tuesday thanks for all your help fellas!!
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: Oldsquirt on May 24, 2009, 10:15:49 AM
  that would make sence! the new one has a round tapered shaft and the old one is square! the bad thing is i need it now so its back to  O0 riging it. i want to float that thing tomarrow. ill be calling tom on tuesday thanks for all your help fellas!!

I wish I had seen this post earlier. You should NOT take the boat out rigged that way. Too much depends on the steering to take that chance. Lives depend on it. I hope the holes you drilled have not compromised the integrity of the steering shaft.

You might just call Rex Marine for that part. Pretty much guarantee it will be in stock. They should also be able to tell you if there is a matching bezel available for that helm.
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: nathan72 on May 24, 2009, 12:15:18 PM
im not taken it out you are right it is to much of a chance! i dont think the holes will be a big deal but i will tig them up and then put the shaft on the lathe and give it a spin to see if it square. you know how it is wen you want to hit the water! if i had some aluminum i would just make one.thanks
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: nathan72 on May 28, 2009, 11:44:33 PM
got it all back together and it is smoooth i had to check to see if it was doing anything!! i hope i got it right if i turn the wheel to the right the nozzle turns to the right. ill get some pics up tomarrow
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: nathan72 on May 30, 2009, 12:27:03 AM
pics
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: Oldsquirt on May 30, 2009, 12:32:28 PM
Looks good !
Title: Re: new steering
Post by: IRRebel on May 30, 2009, 07:22:01 PM
Still love rhe Morse shifter and where it's mounted, lol

Ray
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