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KonaCole

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Seats
« on: March 11, 2008, 07:47:13 AM »
What type and size wood should I use to make seats out of?
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Brad @ SCJB

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Re: Seats
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2008, 07:49:53 AM »
3/8" plywood will work....you could use marine wood, but youre looking at around $80 a sheet ....verses $15 per sheet for the regular stuff at home depot

its the same old story......money saved vs doing it right.
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2008, 07:57:47 AM »
If you use regular plywood from Home Depot or Lowe's make sure you coat it with thinned resin or epoxy just to seal the wood from moisture.  Exterior grade plywood is best since it uses a water proof (so they say) glue, just like marine plywood.  Marine plywood has no voids like regular plywood does and usually has 7 or more layers, but if you hit a void in the exterior plywood you can fill it if you want, or just let the resin/epoxy flow into it and seal it that way.  Seats aren't a structural part of the boat.

Don't forget to cut or drill air release holes and seal all exposed edges as well. 
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2008, 08:00:19 AM »
good points GAWnCA  ;)

I have an interior project coming up very soon that i will document everything i am doing and post it up on the site. it should start later this week.

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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2008, 08:08:45 AM »
good points GAWnCA  ;)

I have an interior project coming up very soon that i will document everything i am doing and post it up on the site. it should start later this week.

-brad

Brad,  I'll be looking forward to that.  I will be doing my boat later this year and I'd like to build some new seats and I think I need to pull the old flooring plywood out and replace that.  If I keep going, I will have replaced everything except the fiberglass hull, before I'm done.  New carpet and upholstery is going to be called for as well as complete paint job.  Now, how can I get that paint booth reserved where you did your boat.  LMAO!!!!   ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2008, 08:15:37 AM »
...  Now, how can I get that paint booth reserved where you did your boat.  LMAO!!!!   ;D ;D ;D

That bodyshop is being closed  :'(
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Re: Seats
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2008, 09:06:50 AM »
Don't forget to cut or drill air release holes and seal all exposed edges as well. 
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Air Relaese Holes  ??? ???
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2008, 09:09:28 AM »
Don't forget to cut or drill air release holes and seal all exposed edges as well. 


Air Relaese Holes  ??? ???

It helps to dry it out and prevent mold........

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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2008, 09:18:05 AM »
just to elaborate a little more....

put 3-4 large (1") holes in the seat base.....helps water escape rather then trapping it in the foam under the vinyl cover....so your boat dont stink like a bum come next season.  ;)
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2008, 09:28:59 AM »
just to elaborate a little more....

put 3-4 large (1") holes in the seat base.....helps water escape rather then trapping it in the foam under the vinyl cover....so your boat dont stink like a bum come next season.  ;)

10 4.  Thanks
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2008, 09:59:27 AM »
Most of the jet boat seats will have a cuby hole (sp?) under all of the seat cushions, gives a place where you can store little sh!t. Doubles as a water drain hole for the seats. You'll want water drain holes both in the seat base's and in the seat cushion's. See sh!ty pic of a seat base.  :D  I wish I had taken a lot more pictures of that entire project but I had a deadline to meet.  :banghead:
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2008, 10:47:10 AM »
I was just looking through my restoration pics, but cant find the  process/progress of how I did it, but I do have some with it done before upholstery, I will explain and maybe it'll help a little
1st I laid the base out made some cleats that spanned from the stringers to the gunnels(with storage under seats in mind), they were trapazoid looking pieces, then I laid a flat base down laid out the way I wanted the seats to be ( I made the mistake of not allowing enough space for "big" people so no fat chicks get to sit up front  ;D, I had a bunch of really lightweight mohogany that was left over from a job so I made the framework out of that probably 150 1 x 2 pieces, glued and screwed it all together then I applied the skins, If you go to a hardwood store not home depot, but a place that sells just moldings and hardwood, they will have some flexible plywood. it will bend to really tight radiuses, its mostly used for laying up radius framework. it comes in 1/4 or 3/8 I believe and it is 2'x 8' sheets, I then glued the flexible ply to the framework and fastened it with staples (not the cheezy little ones but the ones my pnumatic nail guns use). once I did that I sanded it all out eased all the edges, cut my access holes for storage, cut the removable seat bases then used the fiberglass resin to coat all the exposed wood surfaces, then off to the upholstery guy. I didn't see where you lived but a guy in Santa Paula did my upholstery for under a grand. And YES make sure you use marine ply, I used 1/2 inch because the seat area actually gets two layers 1" total, one layer for the cushion and a layer for the base. all in all each section Right and left sides weighed around 35 pounds a piece, A little heavier than I wanted but strong as hell.
I hope this helps



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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2008, 10:52:19 AM »
Dozzr,

Now that's what I want to put in my Miller when I re-do the seats.  I like the wrap-around style in the back as well as the buckets in the front.

Greg
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2008, 08:34:47 AM »
They didn't come out as nice in the front as I would have liked, I wanted them to be a little wider it was lose all the floor space or go with a narrower seat I opted for the narrower seats, they are comfortable, and there is room to get geared up now and the girls love the back area  compared to what it was.
If/when I make more, I will  make the base overhang the stringers a couple inches (in the front anyway) rather than have them flush. Other than that they came out nice
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2008, 08:40:40 AM »
I'm not a big person and I can see your point about being a little narrow.  I think I would like a little angle to the back of the seats as well.  I like the clean layout though.
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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2008, 08:58:21 AM »
that would have required a compound angle, I tried it at first and it seemed to forced you off the seat, if your going to do it that way I would have the upholstery guy build up the lower area with foam rather than frame it that way, the striaght up and down "locks"  you in and really is alot more comfortable than it looks, and better than sliding off the cushion because of the backrest angle. It might be different with foam in it but it felt funky with the angle.
But thats only my opinion.
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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2008, 08:59:04 AM »
My kona

The door between is going to be storage/cooler, the front floor also has a door in it

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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2008, 09:04:28 AM »
that would have required a compound angle, I tried it at first and it seemed to forced you off the seat, if your going to do it that way I would have the upholstery guy build up the lower area with foam rather than frame it that way, the striaght up and down "locks"  you in and really is alot more comfortable than it looks, and better than sliding off the cushion because of the backrest angle. It might be different with foam in it but it felt funky with the angle.
But thats only my opinion.

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« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2008, 09:06:25 AM »
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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2008, 11:12:53 AM »
I used 1/4 in. plactis for the front seats. Heat gun them and clamp/screw them in. I also used rejected oil based paint fro Home depot to paint the wood with. I just did the fronts so far. Wow what a wrestling match!! I used the soft plastic for the seat baks so they "wood" not try to go staight and pull out of the bases.
Sweet work Dozzer!!!  Im humbled!!!
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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2008, 12:04:02 PM »
What does X2 mean?   ???
that means he is of the same opinion
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Re: Seats
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2008, 12:19:11 PM »
Damn , looking at this interior really makes me want to put full interior back in the Bahner, But $$$$$
buckets are cheap and easy :banghead:

How many times can i change my mind with this boat ??? ;D

Sorry for the thread jack ::)

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« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2008, 04:57:30 PM »
That depends on how much $$$$$$ you have,  ;D
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« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2008, 05:05:37 PM »
Thanks for the compliment, but I own a  cabinet shop full of wood working tools a small mill actually, and If I built those for a customer, I would have been re-doing them. They are plenty strong, but for a finish carpenter they look like shit........ ;D.........but I guess thats what the upholstery is for  ::)
 The good part is I learned a bunch, and the next ones will be right on.
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« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2008, 04:18:20 PM »
That bodyshop is being closed  :'(

What happened????  Your project break 'em?  LMAO!!!   ;D ::)
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