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2savage4you

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Another plumbing ?
« on: June 25, 2008, 12:03:14 pm »
I got my valve in but i dont have any clue on what to do after it.... Can somebody post some pics of there set up.......The simple one's im already phucked up i dont need anymore confusion ;D  I want to add a pressure gauge to it and a hose connection... Now do i really need a pressure reliefe valve like i hear so many people saying ??? This is what i have so far.

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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2008, 12:09:57 pm »


Ok, bear with me, from your ball valve you run to a "T" from each side of the T run into your block, for the exit water, run one line to your overboard dump, the other one goes to the Bassett T valve, then to each header. If you want to add a hose hook up line, just cut a T in between the ball valve and the first T, add a hose adapter and cap it til you need it.
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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2008, 12:33:11 pm »
 Ok i got that thanks, but do i need a releife valve if i run a gauge?

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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2008, 12:50:53 pm »
2SAV,
 You can put a gauge in if you want with or without the releif valve. People put gauges in with a releif valve in order to read the pressure and set the valve to their liking. I put my gauge where the T-stat would go with a plate and welded fitting to the plate.
  T.J.

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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2008, 01:14:19 pm »
This is my old set up and i kinda wanted to keep it all together like in the pic ???

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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2008, 01:22:01 pm »
that looks complicated i wouldnt even run a second valve, just one to shut the water off from the pump...
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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2008, 01:26:41 pm »
that looks complicated i wouldnt even run a second valve, just one to shut the water off from the pump...

I did say it was my OLD set up , it was cut up on removal ;D  Im only using one valve.....

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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2008, 01:38:58 pm »
ok if you wanna see a screwed up plumbing situation ill take pics of my nordics...because it has an outdrive, a full size water pump, and headers it is ugly and nothing i can do about it either
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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2008, 01:40:05 pm »
IMO  ball valve is too touchy. I have a gate valve and 1/4 of a turn can make 60* difference
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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2008, 01:53:12 pm »
ok if you wanna see a screwed up plumbing situation ill take pics of my nordics...because it has an outdrive, a full size water pump, and headers it is ugly and nothing i can do about it either


Yeah, pics of anything would be good at this point.

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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2008, 03:20:42 pm »
2sav, PM sent
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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2008, 04:54:57 pm »

Yeah, pics of anything would be good at this point.

2sav

This is how I did mine and it's close to what you have.



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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2008, 05:06:21 pm »
This is how I did mine and it's close to what you have.


Thanks bro, I knew somebody would post up a pic sooner or later ;D It helps when i see it done, im not good with trying to put it together in my head........
what can i say the eightie's were good to me ;)
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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2008, 06:53:57 pm »

Thanks bro, I knew somebody would post up a pic sooner or later ;D It helps when i see it done, im not good with trying to put it together in my head........
what can i say the eightie's were good to me ;)
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By the way, you can even get it to work off the hose.  Not that you'll have too much pressure from the hose, it's just nice to know that it can be done.  Hook up to the hose and turn the valve open or out and then turn it back down to increase the pressure, you won't be able to get it right until you are on the water and the pump running.  Don't forget you'll need the gage.
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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2008, 02:42:59 pm »
 I found this @ jegs and was wondering do they have them with a fitting already welded into them? I want to use it as my dump line if possible..
http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS/756881/10002/-1/10129

Maybe  somsbody here can weld one up?

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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2008, 04:06:39 pm »
Whats the best way to get out a pipe plug from a aluminum intake?

1. Torch
2. BFH
3. ??? i need it gone so i can finish my plumbing the way i want it :banghead:

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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2008, 08:58:37 pm »
Whats the best way to get out a pipe plug from a aluminum intake?

1. Torch
2. BFH
3. ??? i need it gone so i can finish my plumbing the way i want it :banghead:

2sav

Steel, brass, hex head, allen head? If its steel, I would try some penetrating oil, if its brass, I would drill it.

Heat will/could distort the manifold.
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2008, 09:13:24 pm »
GT, he got it out. ;)

Here's my entire setup in picture form. The only thing that I'm going to change is that I'm adding a pressure gauge to the top of the thermostat housing so I can monitor pressure. I'm very concerned about water in the oil cause it's a tall deck and I have the spacers, and that's just another piece to complicate things and possibly have a weakness. :banghead:

I don't like the look of the brass or the rubber hose, but I was on a pretty tight budget at the time. Out of work and bored. :P It will all be changed out hopefully over the winter to all AN fittings and stainless lines. ;D







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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2008, 09:20:54 pm »
Hey fellas, looks pretty good, there is one area that I would change, below the thermostat cover, there is an awful lot of weight swinging of of one point, the vibration could cause fatigue and possibly failure IMO, maybe tie wrap the hoses together where they come out of the tee to the block inlet hoses, otherwise should work, looks like a lot of adjustability built into it.

Also, you probably already know this, but AN is not the same as flare, the bevel is a different pitch/degree, they should seal up if tight enough.
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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2008, 09:27:29 pm »
or, urs can be all baller lookin like mine!  ;D just kidding its not that nice lookin...just for some ideas:


i also have a bassett tee that doesnt work at all, so it also has a manual header valve up front, u can just use a regular tee in place of the bassett one, which is what i just should have...


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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2008, 09:31:08 pm »
Hey fellas, looks pretty good, there is one area that I would change, below the thermostat cover, there is an awful lot of weight swinging of of one point, the vibration could cause fatigue and possibly failure IMO, maybe tie wrap the hoses together where they come out of the tee to the block inlet hoses, otherwise should work, looks like a lot of adjustability built into it.

Also, you probably already know this, but AN is not the same as flare, the bevel is a different pitch/degree, they should seal up if tight enough.

Sorry but you lost me on this one. ??? Can you please explain it again and talk really really slow, for my slow ass. ;D

Thanks.
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Re: Another plumbing ?
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2008, 09:46:33 pm »
Hey LB, looks like an unfinished freeway project j/k ;D I see something and I can't shut up, its a weakness, you should IMHO rotate your fuel filter so the "cap" is on top, this will provide you with some killer water separation, the water will just settle into the bottom of the cup (if you have another Fram bracket, just "double bracket"), Just a thought, you're more than welcome to do what my wife does and ignore my ignorant ass.. ;D
Sorry but you lost me on this one. ??? Can you please explain it again and talk really really slow, for my slow ass. ;D

Thanks.

Where the pipe nipple comes out of the manifold below the T-stat cover, there is a valve, a tee, a flare coupling and a Bassett tee  all hanging on one fitting, I just think it would be a lot of strain on the fitting going into the manifold, so where the hoses come off the tee, tie wrap those to the hoses going into the front of the engine to try and eliminate the bouncing strain. Think what would happen if you grabbed the Bassett tee with your hand and pulled (simulating a vibration) it would snap something right off.

One of the race boats we built had a very healthy 377 (destroked 400 small block Chevy) and the guys ran the engine in the boat with a Stewart Warner mechanical oil pressure gauge screwed into a tee on the back of the engine, when I asked them to take it out while water testing (you couldn't see it from the seats anyway) they said it would be "fine", needless to say, it broke off and blew oil out of the engine and hurt it real bad, the best lessons are learned the hard way.
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