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Tech Talk => Jet Pumps => Topic started by: Beaveretriever on February 13, 2009, 04:31:12 PM

Title: Berk "E" pump
Post by: Beaveretriever on February 13, 2009, 04:31:12 PM
How do you install a place diverter or jet-o-vator on a "E" pump? i cant see any bolt holes on the pump that would allow you to attach a droop or diverter? with that being said is there a way to change the bowl from a "E" bowl to a bowl with the 8 bolt holes in the back to attach a droop and diverter?



Thanks

The Beav
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: flytime on February 13, 2009, 05:07:36 PM
Lets get the boat home first before you start changing a bunch of stuff around junior ::) ::)
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: Beaveretriever on February 13, 2009, 05:12:49 PM
who is this? is this the guy that broke a new boat, and wait do you even have a jet boat? what are you doing on this site :screwy:


The Beav  :D
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: flytime on February 13, 2009, 05:14:49 PM
Ouch. Thats gonna leave a mark. I DIDNT break the boat. The damn thing just broke. Good news is that it is fixed now and MasterCraft is paying for it. ;D
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: GT Jets on February 13, 2009, 05:15:02 PM
E pumps are limited because of the linkage attatchments, they are an odd duck, a lot of the boats with E's I have seen will not benefit from a droop and they come with Jet-O-Vaters.... ;)

Don't listen to the prop guy, he yanks peoples arms off  :screwy:

GT  ;D
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: flytime on February 13, 2009, 05:19:17 PM
Don't listen to the prop guy, he yanks peoples arms off  :screwy:

GT  ;D

Not on purpose ;)
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: GT Jets on February 13, 2009, 05:21:29 PM
Not on purpose ;)
See, an admitted whacko.................Hi Bob!  ;D

GT
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: koyota93 on February 13, 2009, 06:02:52 PM
E pumps are limited because of the linkage attatchments, they are an odd duck, a lot of the boats with E's I have seen will not benefit from a droop and they come with Jet-O-Vaters.... ;)

Don't listen to the prop guy, he yanks peoples arms off  :screwy:

GT  ;D

I may be wrong, but I believe the E pumps do not come with Jet-O-Vaters. The F pump does, which is I guess the same as an E. You can certainly put a place diverter on an E pump. It does take a different one than the other Berks. The E pump can be converted to split bowl to run a droop, but you will have to replace the nozzle and the cables are a little different too. For most people, probably not cost effective. I know Duane at HTP has converted these, and I am pretty sure Tom at JBP has too. Maybe he can chime in.
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: GT Jets on February 13, 2009, 06:07:11 PM
I may be wrong, but I believe the E pumps do not come with Jet-O-Vaters. The F pump does, which is I guess the same as an E. You can certainly put a place diverter on an E pump. It does take a different one than the other Berks. The E pump can be converted to split bowl to run a droop, but you will have to replace the nozzle and the cables are a little different too. For most people, probably not cost effective. I know Duane at HTP has converted these, and I am pretty sure Tom at JBP has too. Maybe he can chime in.

You are not wrong, an F is an E with a Jet-O-Vator.. :sly:  I mispoke on "comes with", should have said "can come with"..Spank you for the clarification  ;)

GT
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: flytime on February 13, 2009, 07:22:35 PM
You are not wrong, an F is an E with a Jet-O-Vator.. :sly:  I mispoke on "comes with", should have said "can come with"..Spank you for the clarification  ;)

GT

Glen,

I dont think he wants YOU to spank him. Kinda weird :screwy:







Oh...Hi back ;)
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: GT Jets on February 13, 2009, 07:29:07 PM
Glen,
I dont think he wants YOU to spank him. Kinda weird :screwy:
Oh...Hi back ;)

IMHO It would be better than the arm ripping thing  :sly:

GT
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: jet boat performance on February 13, 2009, 08:00:53 PM
How do you install a place diverter or jet-o-vator on a "E" pump? i cant see any bolt holes on the pump that would allow you to attach a droop or diverter? with that being said is there a way to change the bowl from a "E" bowl to a bowl with the 8 bolt holes in the back to attach a droop and diverter?



Thanks

The Beav

Its easy ,you hold the Diverter and turn the boat around and around  ;D (actually Cake I'll walk you thru when your ready ) The Spectra has a c bowl its ready for a diverter right now ! and yes you can add a G bowl in a heart beat ,dont belive I'd do the "droop" on this hull Tom
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: SkyHarborCowboy on February 14, 2009, 05:22:19 AM
How about some photos of an "E" Pump with a Place Diverter installed?  How about some photos of an "E" Pump with a "G" Bowl installed with and without a Place Diverter?

Joe
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: jet boat performance on February 14, 2009, 08:00:08 AM
Your wish (partial) is my command Bud   O0
the second half may be a little tougher
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi147.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr319%2Fjetboatperformance%2Fjosh%2FGlastron-01.jpg&hash=e829f5c1399f7377032debcbe5e4c56d92012a30)
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: koyota93 on February 14, 2009, 03:04:45 PM
How about some photos of an "E" Pump with a Place Diverter installed?  How about some photos of an "E" Pump with a "G" Bowl installed with and without a Place Diverter?

Joe

Here is a E pump with a split bowl, snoot, and diverter installed
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hi-techperformance.com%2Fimages%2Ftaylor2.jpg&hash=72d7b76327ef163569b8f84a743874a3b3d5e235)
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: SkyHarborCowboy on February 14, 2009, 03:39:46 PM
Tom,

Do you have more of a side view?

Joe
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: Beaveretriever on February 14, 2009, 04:00:16 PM
i thought that the spectra had an "E" pump? can you shoot me a picture of it so i can see the difference? thanks Tom


THe Beav
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: jet boat performance on February 14, 2009, 05:48:39 PM
Beav It does have an E
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi147.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr319%2Fjetboatperformance%2FEliminator%2520V-drive%2FDSC02937.jpg&hash=7d276216c76a45532b6d921c05e21b9c1512a6ae)
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: SkyHarborCowboy on February 15, 2009, 08:24:17 PM
Tom,

I didnt realize that Berkley mad a 4 nozzle vericle discharge nozzle with Booster Venturis!

Joe
Beav It does have an E
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi147.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr319%2Fjetboatperformance%2FEliminator%2520V-drive%2FDSC02937.jpg&hash=7d276216c76a45532b6d921c05e21b9c1512a6ae)
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: GT Jets on February 15, 2009, 08:27:21 PM
Tom,

I didnt realize that Berkley mad a 4 nozzle vericle discharge nozzle with Booster Venturis!

Joe

Hee hee, thats the new "8-71 E" very rare and extremely pricey, but hauls ass...

GT
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: Beaveretriever on February 16, 2009, 11:57:31 PM
very confused now :screwy:. so the spectra has a "C" bowl on it but its an "E" pump? i did see place diverter makes a diverter for the "E" pump. is that the diverter that i need or do i need to get one that fits a "C" bowl? Tom help me out.


THe Beav
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: koyota93 on February 17, 2009, 04:59:58 PM
very confused now :screwy:. so the spectra has a "C" bowl on it but its an "E" pump? i did see place diverter makes a diverter for the "E" pump. is that the diverter that i need or do i need to get one that fits a "C" bowl? Tom help me out.


THe Beav

From what I've heard the "c" and the "e" bowls are nearly identical. You will need the diverter for the "e" pump because the way the cables are ran the "c" diverter will not work.
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: jet boat performance on February 17, 2009, 08:15:58 PM
From what I've heard the "c" and the "e" bowls are nearly identical. You will need the diverter for the "e" pump because the way the cables are ran the "c" diverter will not work.

E and F "insert" pumps have "C" bowls in fact all one piece Berk bowls look the same , theres no difference as for my New "Domy" pic for my eliminator , every since I got my "Puter" back I have to left click then right click to copy from photobucket  used to was i could just left click and copy  :screwy: soooooo, heres your jet Bro !
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi147.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr319%2Fjetboatperformance%2FSpectra%2FDSC01082.jpg&hash=7fe688aa8550ce3ee21f7cafe93f2c43d2f51208)
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: IRRebel on February 18, 2009, 03:13:43 AM
'tis ok Tom, I found this thread very informational, as I have both the E and C pumps, and they are identical bowls as far as I can tell, just the cable routing and the set-back position on the E seems different. Looks a little less race and a little more docile.

Just an extra click and you're concerned?? I haven't even figured out how to post a pic here yet!! Photobucket must be the answer, gonna try that! Engine install in the Sleekcraft Rebel , E pump, happening on Sunday, will post all the pics of the engine build and install then, hopefully, with luck.  Will be interested in a place diverter for the thing if it doesn't sink!.

Ray
Title: Re: Berk "E" pump
Post by: jet boat performance on February 18, 2009, 07:41:12 AM
Photbucket is the bomdiggity, also I belive it helps keep Brads "bandwidth" down, go Photo bucket Pro its only 9 bucks a year and has loads of options Tom
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