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HaulsBalls

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2011, 09:13:49 AM »
The socket really helps but it's expensive if you are only going to use it once, I bought a craftsman socket and had cut it in half.  I cut down a piece of tubing the depth I needed and welded it between the two halves, this is pretty easy as long as you have a welder at home and the supplies readily available. 

Have you tried putting heat to the nut?  I'm scared to ask how you are holding the shaft when breaking the nut loose?  I ended up cutting mine off before I had the socket but if you are going to attempt this you must be VERY CAREFULL not to touch the shaft or threads with the cutoff wheel.  A bit of antisieze helps for reinstallation. 
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jetjunky101

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2011, 10:18:54 AM »
yha i dont want 2 damage anything ...so...i tryed a strap wrench  :screwy: with no luck ..damit .. and i have a welder but ...2 cut a socket  :sly: that seems very hard 2 do without a band saw or something...i dont have anything like that at all... :banghead: well i guess im gona have 2 figure somethin out ...or just buy the right tools  :thumbup:
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jetjunky101

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2011, 10:59:18 AM »
i give up  :banghead: ordering tools  :thumbup:
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HaulsBalls

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2011, 12:32:20 PM »
Where in Cali are you?  This might be something Tom @ JBP can help you with, if not you may just be better off picking up the socket.  While your at it maybe look into the spline socket to hold the shaft while you wrench on the nut.  This for sure was the hard part for me as well, once the nut comes off the rest should go smooth.  You will probably need a 3-jaw puller for the imp. or the actual imp. puller tool. 
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farmergord

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2011, 03:52:05 PM »
just took mine off 2 weeks ago . I had to use my cutting torch and a lot of heat then an 1 13/16ths wrench with a 4 foot baar to get it off then a 3 jaw puller for the impeller. Harbour frieght should be cheap for the wrench  good luck and no worries with heat
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jetjunky101

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2011, 08:04:35 PM »
yha tom is a couple hours away..but just tryin 2 do this myself...gona try harbor 2marrow after my safety class  :beer:
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jetjunky101

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2011, 10:26:55 AM »
new ?...what kind of paint should i go with or should i powder coat? and dose anyone know what it mite cost 2 powder coat?
thanks
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76NORDIC

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2011, 11:22:25 AM »
I bought the white appliance paint from homo depot to paint mine. Came out great and is lasting a long time. Hell of a lot cheaper than powder coating :beer:
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HaulsBalls

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2011, 04:31:42 PM »
X2 on the appliance paint, cheap and easy.
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jet boat performance

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2011, 09:03:27 AM »
X2 on the appliance paint, cheap and easy.

Agree with the paint , although most of out new Jet drive Castings are powder coated, this is done in tightly controlled conditions , we typically use epoxy paints to recoat and restore as we have encountered problems with "job shop"re-powder coated bowls and suctions in the past , our foundry cheif engineer recently explained that it not so much the re-coating but rather the temps and perhaps poor control by the individual coater that could create casting distortion and thus alignment or fitment issues  Tom 
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jet boat performance

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2011, 09:19:02 AM »
Tom- Do you guys run the gasket between the transon adaptor and the the transom? What's the trick to get it to seal properly?

Missed this earlier but that question , honestly depends on the situation , if properly installed the original bowl O'ring and transom adaptor gasket on berk type application works very well , this is especially handy if one is planning to make impeller changes right away , the silicone "install" is more permanent and definately "dicey" to remove and clean , it (silicone) also seals well when everything is clean and done correctly  Tom
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jetjunky101

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2011, 12:23:21 PM »
thanks  4 the info  :thumbup: but im doing this on a hella budget so i went the paint way
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HaulsBalls

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2011, 12:40:32 PM »
Looks like new, any luck with the impeller nut?
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jetjunky101

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2011, 12:56:02 PM »
yha when i went 2 harbor on sat. guess what was right across the street...a boat shop..well they have those wake things >:D haha but the guy that dose the shop work use to race jets ..so he has the tools  :thumbup: so hes gona help me out ...i just have 2 get back over there sometime this week...but with thanksgiving....i mite have 2 wait till next week
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jetjunky101

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2011, 03:52:53 PM »
yha well that sucked... :banghead: strike 2....i was thinkin the dude was gona help me out and then i get there and he was gona charge me an hr fee ...that just so happens 2 be the same price as the tools  :banghead: man i know times are tuff but....
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HaulsBalls

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2011, 08:43:41 PM »
Did you end up ordering the tools? Probably better off having what you need in your tool box and get the experiance first hand by doing it yourself. 
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5akman

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #41 on: November 23, 2011, 01:44:50 PM »
I just broke two pumps apart yesterday. Since I didn't have a wrench or socket that size, I used the handy cutting torch. In about 2 minutes I had cut alternate sides of the nut and then a good whack with a hammer/chisel and it popped right off. Sure I have to buy a new imp nut now but it beat the hassle of trying to get the nuts off the conventional way. Do you have access to a cutting torch?
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farmergord

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #42 on: November 23, 2011, 08:30:10 PM »
you still have to tighten up the new one
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5akman

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2011, 09:08:28 AM »
That's true but its easier to tighten up a new nut then break free an old one. On mine, they were both buggered up, matter of fact one had been welded on so I assume someone had tried something extreme to either get it off or tighten it up.  The rebuild kits come with new impeller nuts so no real loss.
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jetjunky101

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2011, 10:49:22 AM »
no cutting torch..and the nut is in good shape ...looks like no one has ever evan put a wrench on it soo...im just gona order the tools cuz this is only my 1st boat and i'm very sure i will have another soon  :thumbup: if the wife lets me  :beer: but thanks for all the info and ill post up some more pics of the progress soon...
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jetjunky101

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2012, 11:38:22 AM »
ok so....i know its been a while....but money is hard 2 come by these days ...and with the holidays and all...but heres an update....just got yesterday...finaly  :thumbup:
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jetjunky101

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2012, 12:08:34 PM »
now i have the tools...is heat the best way not 2 damage anything ...or is there a better way?
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farmergord

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2012, 12:39:08 PM »
I had to use heat and alot of it, and a 6 foot cheater bar to break mine loose just make sure to hold the driveline end tight ,you should be fine  :thumbup:
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jetjunky101

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« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2012, 12:48:49 PM »
cool ....thanks  :beer:  ill see how it gose....
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jetjunky101

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Re: berk rebuild/refresh
« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2012, 07:37:56 AM »
well....some penetrating oil and a cheeter bar.....done... ;D...that was easy...
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