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Tech Talk => Jet Pumps => Topic started by: SomeThingWilder on February 10, 2016, 08:37:49 PM

Title: Can someone ID my Impeller
Post by: SomeThingWilder on February 10, 2016, 08:37:49 PM
Can't seem to find any ID on my impeller. What steps should I take to ID . Not really wanting to replace it or do anything at all till I run the boat with the new power plant.  Just my father-in-law can't recall what impeller it is.
Title: Re: Can someone ID my Impeller
Post by: GT Jets on February 10, 2016, 08:44:46 PM
Measure it to the cut chart. Easy peasy.
Title: Re: Can someone ID my Impeller
Post by: SomeThingWilder on February 10, 2016, 09:43:02 PM
Measure it to the cut chart. Easy peasy.
like this chart GT
Title: Re: Can someone ID my Impeller
Post by: SomeThingWilder on February 10, 2016, 09:43:42 PM
Or this
Title: Re: Can someone ID my Impeller
Post by: GT Jets on February 10, 2016, 09:52:36 PM
Or this

Yep,

Either will fly.

GT
Title: Re: Can someone ID my Impeller
Post by: SomeThingWilder on February 10, 2016, 09:55:02 PM
Yep,

Either will fly.

GT
How do u determine if it is aluminum or SS 
Title: Re: Can someone ID my Impeller
Post by: GT Jets on February 10, 2016, 10:02:09 PM
How do u determine if it is aluminum or SS

Is this a serious question?

Thump it with a screwdriver handle. A stainless will "ring" and aluminum with "thud".

GT
Title: Re: Can someone ID my Impeller
Post by: SomeThingWilder on February 10, 2016, 10:06:06 PM
Is this a serious question?

Thump it with a screwdriver handle. A stainless will "ring" and aluminum with "thud".

GT
it was a serious question we are not all gifts of gods. No need for insults thought this was a forum to help each other not bring one down.
Title: Re: Can someone ID my Impeller
Post by: GT Jets on February 10, 2016, 10:12:33 PM
it was a serious question we are not all gifts of gods. No need for insults thought this was a forum to help each other not bring one down.

Not an insult,  thought I was being trolled.

The easy answer is the stainless impeller will weigh about three times what an aluminum does,  but it's together sooooooo.

The smart-ass answer I had was, "one is made of stainless and the other is aluminum".

If you scratch it with a pocket knife, you'll know real quick. Stainless won't "sliver".

GT
Title: Re: Can someone ID my Impeller
Post by: SomeThingWilder on February 10, 2016, 10:19:06 PM
Not an insult,  thought I was being trolled.

The easy answer is the stainless impeller will weigh about three times what an aluminum does,  but it's together sooooooo.

The smart-ass answer I had was, "one is made of stainless and the other is aluminum".

If you scratch it with a pocket knife, you'll know real quick. Stainless won't "sliver".

GT
Thanks GT I appreciate your knowledge.  From what I measured and scraped/knocked on with a screwdriver  it's an aluminum 'aa' impeller. 
Title: Re: Can someone ID my Impeller
Post by: GT Jets on February 10, 2016, 10:21:08 PM
it was a serious question we are not all gifts of gods. No need for insults thought this was a forum to help each other not bring one down.

Sorry if you took is as an insult. Not intentional.

GT
Title: Re: Can someone ID my Impeller
Post by: GT Jets on February 10, 2016, 10:22:49 PM
Thanks GT I appreciate your knowledge.  From what I measured and scraped/knocked on with a screwdriver  it's an aluminum 'aa' impeller.

Depending on what your trying to do,  an AA is a good start,  meaning you can't cut the impeller "up".

GT
Title: Re: Can someone ID my Impeller
Post by: SomeThingWilder on February 10, 2016, 10:25:25 PM
Sorry if you took is as an insult. Not intentional.

GT
lol I did a little . Just new to jet boats and wanting to learn all I can and be as knowledgeable as possible and I heard this was the place to ask questions and learn what y'll known for years
Title: Re: Can someone ID my Impeller
Post by: GT Jets on February 10, 2016, 10:33:58 PM
lol I did a little . Just new to jet boats and wanting to learn all I can and be as knowledgeable as possible and I heard this was the place to ask questions and learn what y'll known for years

You're in the right place bud.

A thick skin and not reading too much into a single post is probably the best advice I could give.

I am actually writing a building condition report right now (not by choice) and probably didn't have a good game face on.

My apologies.

GT
Title: Re: Can someone ID my Impeller
Post by: SomeThingWilder on February 10, 2016, 10:35:18 PM
You're in the right place bud.

A thick skin and not reading too much into a single post is probably the best advice I could give.

I am actually writing a building condition report right now (not by choice) and probably didn't have a good game face on.

My apologies.

GT
no worries I got the answers I needed. Thanks again !!!
Title: Re: Can someone ID my Impeller
Post by: Flusher on February 11, 2016, 06:03:03 PM
That is definitely NOT a AA impeller.  The vanes on a AA impeller stick out past the the shroud and hub (picture 1).  You can't simply measure the outside diameter of the shroud.  You want to measure the actual vane length by measuring the diameter where the vane ends (picture 2 & 3).

That impeller looks like it was cut at an angle only, as opposed to cutting the outside first and intersecting the ends of the vanes at this point.  This is sometimes done in an attempt to preserve any balancing that has been done (picture 4).  Picture 3 clearly shows the angle cut only without turning of the OD.

Lastly, you can see the witness marks left when the vanes were shortened on your impeller.  Picture 5 illustrates an example of just such a witness mark.

Good luck,

Joe
Title: Re: Can someone ID my Impeller
Post by: SomeThingWilder on February 11, 2016, 09:37:50 PM
That is definitely NOT a AA impeller.  The vanes on a AA impeller stick out past the the shroud and hub (picture 1).  You can't simply measure the outside diameter of the shroud.  You want to measure the actual vane length by measuring the diameter where the vane ends (picture 2 & 3).

That impeller looks like it was cut at an angle only, as opposed to cutting the outside first and intersecting the ends of the vanes at this point.  This is sometimes done in an attempt to preserve any balancing that has been done (picture 4).  Picture 3 clearly shows the angle cut only without turning of the OD.

Lastly, you can see the witness marks left when the vanes were shortened on your impeller.  Picture 5 illustrates an example of just such a witness mark.

Good luck,

Joe
Thanks for the info. I guess I need to have a professional look at what I have and  to tell me what impeller it was/is.
Title: Re: Can someone ID my Impeller
Post by: Flusher on February 11, 2016, 10:00:58 PM
Thanks for the info. I guess I need to have a professional look at what I have and  to tell me what impeller it was/is.

I am confident that you can handle it
Title: Re: Can someone ID my Impeller
Post by: SomeThingWilder on February 11, 2016, 10:05:12 PM
I am confident that you can handle it
I probably can..just need to get me a bigger caliber
Title: Re: Can someone ID my Impeller
Post by: GT Jets on February 11, 2016, 10:09:40 PM
I probably can..just need to get me a bigger caliber

Cool, an opportunity to score more tools.... :thumbup:

GT
Title: Re: Can someone ID my Impeller
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