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Tech Talk => Jet Pumps => Topic started by: eastcoastboys on December 01, 2015, 04:28:20 PM

Title: Clean out port filled?
Post by: eastcoastboys on December 01, 2015, 04:28:20 PM
Bought a complete boat for the motor and pump. Noticed that there wasn't any bolts holding the clean out inspection port cover on. Guy said that factory that's how they come. I don't believe that. Looking in side the suction housing it's been filled and painted very nice like a port and polish job. What's the advantage to this the pump wasn't set back on the hull so the port could of been used if wanted to. Is there a advantage to having this done? 


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Title: Re: Clean out port filled?
Post by: vwagon13 on December 02, 2015, 05:14:33 AM
One picture is worth a thousand words.
Title: Re: Clean out port filled?
Post by: J2 on December 02, 2015, 06:14:56 AM
Is this what you're talking about?

I bought my boat with a intake that had the clean out welded and smoothed inside. Not sure of the benefits.

No option to install pop off valve.
Title: Re: Clean out port filled?
Post by: eastcoastboys on December 02, 2015, 10:29:25 AM
Nah mine doesn't look like that mine looks like something someone would freak out and say u can't run this its missing bolts. You wouldn't know it was ok until u looked inside the suction housing.  Pics later uploaded


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Title: Re: Clean out port filled?
Post by: vwagon13 on December 02, 2015, 03:07:58 PM
I'm curious,is this a Berkeley pump? BTW they offer a hand hole cover that's contoured longer to smooth the area below it to stop turbulence. How do you remove twigs,rope and formerly living things out of your pre-impeller or impeller now or is it running?
Title: Re: Clean out port filled?
Post by: eastcoastboys on December 02, 2015, 03:17:21 PM
It's a Berkeley pump. And that's what I was wondering my self. But at the same time I see people set their pumps back and the hand hole ends up in the transom so how does that work or is it like a race thing only ?


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Title: Re: Clean out port filled?
Post by: GT Jets on December 02, 2015, 03:42:48 PM
I haven't had to use the clean out on a Berkeley yet. Been playing with jet boats since 1985.

GT

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Title: Re: Clean out port filled?
Post by: GlassCutter on December 02, 2015, 04:43:10 PM
Apparently you never wanted to ski so bad that you let your wife drive the boat.   :screwy:

Ah crap, did I say that out loud?
Title: Re: Clean out port filled?
Post by: JARVIS on December 02, 2015, 04:47:45 PM
that funny right there.... :o
Title: Re: Clean out port filled?
Post by: vwagon13 on December 02, 2015, 06:14:40 PM
X2
Title: Re: Clean out port filled?
Post by: jimpen on December 03, 2015, 12:14:47 PM

Nah mine doesn't look like that mine looks like something someone would freak out and say u can't run this its missing bolts. You wouldn't know it was ok until u looked inside the suction housing.  Pics later uploaded


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. I had one that was filled as you described. I noticed no difference between the two.


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Title: Re: Clean out port filled?
Post by: GT Jets on December 03, 2015, 12:58:43 PM
Apparently you never wanted to ski so bad that you let your wife drive the boat.   :screwy:

Ah crap, did I say that out loud?

I didn't hear nuttin'.

Put her behind the wheel of a big block powered I/O and she becomes a monster. She won't drive a jet. Probably a good thing.

GT
Title: Re: Clean out port filled?
Post by: vwagon13 on December 05, 2015, 04:50:27 PM
Hey Mr.jimpen, no difference at all? Well the impeller does produce some "turbulence " itself.lol.Manalive you start see'n what causes turbulence within a jet system that we deal with and it's a miracle they "suck" as good as they do.😂😂.....damn I slay myself😖🔫
Title: Re: Clean out port filled?
Post by: jimpen on December 05, 2015, 06:39:05 PM

Hey Mr.jimpen, no difference at all? Well the impeller does produce some "turbulence " itself.lol.Manalive you start see'n what causes turbulence within a jet system that we deal with and it's a miracle they "suck" as good as they do.😂😂.....damn I slay myself😖🔫
. None sir


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Title: Re: Clean out port filled?
Post by: jyeager on December 05, 2015, 06:41:31 PM
Zero difference


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Title: Re: Clean out port filled?
Post by: eastcoastboys on December 06, 2015, 05:35:05 AM
So I have another question then being a newbie here. If that's done would it be reasonable to think the veins have been ported? Everything inside the pump is painted a puke green


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Title: Re: Clean out port filled?
Post by: jimpen on December 06, 2015, 09:57:14 AM

So I have another question then being a newbie here. If that's done would it be reasonable to think the veins have been ported? Everything inside the pump is painted a puke green


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. I would not assume anything


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Title: Re: Clean out port filled?
Post by: Flusher on December 06, 2015, 11:54:41 AM
I believe it makes zero difference.  All of the quickest and fastest jet boats in the world use a pop off valve.  The pistons that fill the hand hole opening don't fit super nice, not to mention that most are hideously notched for inducer clearance where the inducer has been moved forward.

That being said, I had a hole in my life that I had to fill with this $10,000 billet hand hole cover.

Blending the hand hole cover void with Bondo or Sea Goin' Poxy Putty will eventually crack and fall out.  That chunk then goes through the pump.  Sometimes you get lucky and it doesn't cause any damage.

People tend to do what is easiest and hope for some gains.  The only way you can know if the bowl is detailed AND if it is done correctly is to look inside.  Even if done correctly, that doesn't mean that it didn't suck up some rocks at some point.

If you want to do that, I would build up weld on the hand hole cover, machine it to a 4.250" diameter, and blend the weld to the inside surface of the suction housing.

Roy Miersch, PPP, makes a nice fitting hand hole cover for Berkeley and Dominator pumps.

I don't recommend welding the suction housing, the heat will warp the thrust bearing and wear ring size and alignment.

Have fun,

Joe
Title: Re: Clean out port filled?
Post by: jyeager on December 06, 2015, 12:19:34 PM

So I have another question then being a newbie here. If that's done would it be reasonable to think the veins have been ported? Everything inside the pump is painted a puke green


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The green would be the zinc primer they used from the factory.
Most likely stock.


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