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Tech Talk => Jet Pumps => Topic started by: YumaJet on April 05, 2009, 08:21:43 PM

Title: Droop Snoot
Post by: YumaJet on April 05, 2009, 08:21:43 PM: I have a Berkeley split bowl Jet with a PD and am looking to adding a droop snoot. What difference will I notice? How much upward angle will it give? I'm pretty much looking for a higher roost. I already have two 4 degree wedges in place (havent seen it in action yet) but I had 7 degrees and it was ok, but never took a pic of it, only saw it from the drivers view. Im sure by adding a droop and 4 degree wedge, it should give me what im looking for. Will I defeat the purpose of a droop, for getting what I want. I'm thinking a rooster booster will be too much, from seeing a few videos on you tube. I'm sure nonsense is getting the best of me here.....

Heres my boat with only a 3 degree wedge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2H2il-qczc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2H2il-qczc)
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: GlassCutter on April 05, 2009, 08:33:09 PM: Nice locale. What part of the river is that?
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: YumaJet on April 05, 2009, 09:06:03 PM: Just south of Martinez Lake. We shot the video in November, so not many people were out that Wednesday afternoon. ;D
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: GT Jets on April 05, 2009, 10:51:51 PM: I don't think a droop is what you're looking for, but could be wrong, a droop will create some bow lift and will make a huge roost more difficult, you need to split the nozzle at the top and remove the revers gat to get more and still be able to drive it, the roost will be OOC though...

GT
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: pw_Tony on April 06, 2009, 12:04:34 AM: Can almost see our trailer in the background there ;D

The water looked very very low... suprised you didn't hit the sandbar that's usually there on the left!.... Maybe it's moved by now, it's been a while for me :'(
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on April 06, 2009, 12:32:31 AM: sounds like youre just trying to get more pin angel. a droop does give pin angel, but theres different ways to achieve that. obviously using wedges is one way....also you can get a rooster booster. I believe ARS marine has them available still....i havent seen them offered 'new' anywhere else.

also, place makes a 'mini' droop....gives you the pin angel, but doesnt drop your thrust line as deep.
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: YumaJet on April 06, 2009, 10:49:47 AM: Quote from: pw_Tony on April 06, 2009, 12:04:34 AM
Can almost see our trailer in the background there ;D

The water looked very very low... suprised you didn't hit the sandbar that's usually there on the left!.... Maybe it's moved by now, it's been a while for me :'(

The sandbar popped out of nowhere! :banghead: (I hit it, but it was on the right)
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: YumaJet on April 06, 2009, 10:54:51 AM: Quote from: Brad @ SoCalJetBoats.com on April 06, 2009, 12:32:31 AM
sounds like youre just trying to get more pin angel. a droop does give pin angel, but theres different ways to achieve that. obviously using wedges is one way....also you can get a rooster booster. I believe ARS marine has them available still....i havent seen them offered 'new' anywhere else.

also, place makes a 'mini' droop....gives you the pin angel, but doesnt drop your thrust line as deep.

ARS has them. I pull tubers, so I'm sure I would be defeating the purpose. Theres a good chance it will purpoise when I pull tubes too.

Heres a boat with a rooster booster.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQlZktcP5XA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQlZktcP5XA)
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: pw_Tony on April 06, 2009, 02:21:33 PM: Quote from: YumaJet on April 06, 2009, 10:49:47 AM
The sandbar popped out of nowhere! :banghead: (I hit it, but it was on the right)

Aha! :D
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: SLCKREG on April 06, 2009, 07:20:40 PM: The droop I bought from Tom,(don't know the pin angle) helped my rooster , almost as much as my diverter did.
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: jet boat performance on April 06, 2009, 08:24:45 PM: There comes a point where your boat will only be a Great roost maker and basicly "undriveable" under most circumstances , (not enough "down trim to drive normally) The Rooster Booster was abandoned by place diverter years ago , guess ARS picked it up , I know it looks cool to make the big roost but much above a few feet off the H20 is of no practical use Tom
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: OC2Vegas on April 06, 2009, 09:40:53 PM: Quote from: jet boat performance on April 06, 2009, 08:24:45 PM
There comes a point where your boat will only be a Great roost maker and basicly "undriveable" under most circumstances , (not enough "down trim to drive normally) The Rooster Booster was abandoned by place diverter years ago , guess ARS picked it up , I know it looks cool to make the big roost but much above a few feet off the H20 is of no practical use Tom

Ya, but it looks damn cool! ;)
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: btnhtillidie on April 07, 2009, 06:59:23 PM: The video with the Rooster Booster is out of control!

I just want to get to where you are in the first Vid.
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: YumaJet on April 08, 2009, 07:11:53 AM: I'll shoot a video this weekend at the river, and see if it improved from 3 degrees to 8 degrees of wedge. ;D
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: YumaJet on April 08, 2009, 07:12:28 AM: Quote from: btnhtillidie on April 07, 2009, 06:59:23 PM
The video with the Rooster Booster is out of control!

I just want to get to where you are in the first Vid.

I have a 3 degree wedge if you need one.
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: btnhtillidie on April 08, 2009, 05:17:19 PM: Quote from: YumaJet on April 08, 2009, 07:12:28 AM
I have a 3 degree wedge if you need one.

Unfortunately I have an 1820's pump. Wait did I just say that? I am not sure if your Wedge will fit my WJ tom will chime in shortly!
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: YumaJet on April 10, 2009, 08:01:46 AM: I should just put on the third wedge (3 degree) and so how it rides and looks. Adding three separate wedges shouldn't make the middle wedge weak/unsafe?

Its a little hard to get my diverter lever locked in on the last position, does it look like a tension problem? I checked the cable on the lever and diverter and nothing is rubbing.....
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: jet boat performance on April 10, 2009, 08:29:42 AM: Quote from: YumaJet on April 10, 2009, 08:01:46 AM
I should just put on the third wedge (3 degree) and so how it rides and looks. Adding three separate wedges shouldn't make the middle wedge weak/unsafe?

Its a little hard to get my diverter lever locked in on the last position, does it look like a tension problem? I checked the cable on the lever and diverter and nothing is rubbing.....

The amount of wedges should be OK the type we sell (you have ) seal well , re the diverter , sd's lile an adjustment issue ? call me Tom
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: YumaJet on April 11, 2009, 07:43:29 PM: Quote from: jet boat performance on April 10, 2009, 08:29:42 AM
The amount of wedges should be OK the type we sell (you have ) seal well , re the diverter , sd's lile an adjustment issue ? call me Tom

Thanks Tom

Now all I have to do is find stainless steel threadall. Heres a pics from todays river day.

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi270.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fjj114%2Fro69rag%2FRiver003.jpg&hash=f1f6c80f9d5c68606c2e40545e96a53502dc09a4)
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: YumaJet on April 11, 2009, 07:44:04 PM: Its did good and started to hook at about 4200 rpms.
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: btnhtillidie on April 22, 2009, 06:00:43 PM: Tom Check your Pm's on PB!
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: bertus on April 23, 2009, 09:39:23 PM: dont mean to thread jack but brad will the rooster booster only work with a split bowl pump or will it work with a berk jc pump?
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: GT Jets on April 23, 2009, 09:43:54 PM: Quote from: bertus on April 23, 2009, 09:39:23 PM
dont mean to thread jack but brad will the rooster booster only work with a split bowl pump or will it work with a berk jc pump?

Needs to be a split bowl...goes between the nozzle adapter and the outlet of the bowl ;)

GT
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: bertus on April 23, 2009, 10:43:43 PM: thanks gt. any other options to work in conjunction with a diverter to get more roost with a jc pump?
Title: Re: Droop Snoot
Post by: beerjet on April 24, 2009, 04:34:47 PM: Quote from: bertus on April 23, 2009, 10:43:43 PM
thanks gt. any other options to work in conjunction with a diverter to get more roost with a jc pump?
Yes but not recomended :sly:

-beerjet-