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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2008, 10:43:41 AM »
all this talk and its only 4 bolts that connects the pump and motor.  ;) youre all sooo lazy!

j/k i know its a pain in the ass to remove drivelines.



after reading this thread, i pulled the driveline out of the boat till its ready to hit the water, that way no chances----thanks for all the good advice as usual
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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2008, 04:41:18 PM »
all this talk and its only 4 bolts that connects the pump and motor.  ;) youre all sooo lazy!

j/k i know its a pain in the ass to remove drivelines.


I do it almost everytime I pulled my boat out of the water at the races . It is a pain but I cant afford a new SS impellor .

-beerjet-
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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2008, 06:38:42 AM »
Sorry guys, but the only person who got this answer right was Cyclone IMO. Nobody else touched on WHY you shouldn't do it but him.

If there is no debris between the wear ring and impeller I would not be afraid to run my pump dry. Problem is, to make sure there is no debris you need to pull the bowl & impeller and rinse it out. To put the bowl back on properly the pump should not be in the boat, otherwise you're taking a small gamble "hoping" that you have the bowl registered properly on the suction housing.

If you've never pulled your bowl & impeller after traveling even a short distance, try it sometime. You will be amazed at what you find between your wear ring & impeller. Whenever launching Always drop the boat in the water deep enough to submerge the pump, pull it out to wash all the debris out, and then you can put it back in and take it off the trailer.
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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2008, 07:16:01 AM »
Don't forget, you really should try not to run your pump in less than chest deep water. At idle the pump is capable of sucking debris from 4-5 ft down.
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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2008, 01:40:01 PM »
Don't forget, you really should try not to run your pump in less than chest deep water. At idle the pump is capable of sucking debris from 4-5 ft down.
This from a prop guy  >:D
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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2008, 04:43:54 PM »

Whenever launching Always drop the boat in the water deep enough to submerge the pump, pull it out to wash all the debris out, and then you can put it back in and take it off the trailer.

Yet another religious practice I have .

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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2008, 09:57:09 AM »
Tim,

I wouldn't say there is "NO PROBLEM" doing that....yes, its better then running it dry, but I personally still wouldn't recommend it.

Also, from what I have heard, the people who run Berkley now don't know crap about their own product. They cant answer basic technical questions about the pump. So based on that, I still wouldn't take what they say as fact. People like Tom at JBP, Jack at MPD, Jim at Cyclone, Shoemaker at GS Marine, etc know much more about Berkley then Berkeley themselves know. So if they say "dont do it unless you have to" ...I wouldnt say it's "no problem".

-Brad

Brad,

Quite a statement about Berkeley have you had actual dealings with them? What "Bad" information were you provided? While all of the folks you mentioned are excellent at their craft. I am surprised at your point of view you must have some substantiated back ground for the claim?
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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2008, 10:14:33 AM »
Brad,

Quite a statement about Berkeley have you had actual dealings with them? What "Bad" information were you provided? While all of the folks you mentioned are excellent at their craft. I am surprised at your point of view you must have some substantiated back ground for the claim?
so are you saying we CAN run the pump with no water ???
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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2008, 10:17:49 AM »
I called Berkeley about 6 months ago when someone stole everything off the back of my pump. (Droop,diverter). The guy I talked to was very helpful for sure. He sounded a little busy and in a hurry but I got what I needed from him for info and part#'s. It really depends on who picks up the phone for sure. I just had to let a good friend go from my small shop cause he was so "dry". I wish big companies realized what damage a shortened "I don't seem to have the time or care" phone attitude can do to them or cost them sometimes.

Will it put them out of business?? Usually not.

Will we call other manufactures and be more ready with our Credit and Debit cards to order there product even if it is a few bucks more? Sure
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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2008, 10:52:03 AM »
Well I can tell you now CPP has somehow managed to dissuade me of their "premium" service ALL within SEVEN POSTS! What an accomplishment. The best way to attract customers on one of the premier boating forums is definitely to put down your customers! Yet another great performance on behalf of CPP. Thank you guys so much for your continued support of our cause. BTW what useful info did you offer within that post other than the fact that you hate your customers and don't respect their points-of-view or experiences?
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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2008, 06:54:19 PM »
So when Paul bassett told me I should run my motor/pump on the ramp every time I pull her out(to get the headers dry) he was tellin the truth? :sly:
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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2008, 07:50:07 PM »
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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2008, 08:14:25 PM »
So when Paul bassett told me I should run my motor/pump on the ramp every time I pull her out(to get the headers dry) he was tellin the truth? :sly:
i would say he is worried about his headers and not your pump
that being said, i think its more a matter of preference and as i stated i have had a bad experience with running mine dry. i see the other guys at the races doing it with no probs, i'm just not that lucky :-\
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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2008, 09:53:52 PM »
it's not the sand in the pump that ruins it,that would take time, the alum impeller expands with heat and tight clearence it will start to gaul. and like a snowball rolling down a mountain it just gets bigger and bigger tell the impeller is ruined, a stainless won't expand like the alum impeller but it still is not good to run dry, balance off? to much run out on the shaft?there is no load on the impeller out of the water and it go where it wants to when you rev it.
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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2008, 10:32:45 PM »
it's not the sand in the pump that ruins it,that would take time, the alum impeller expands with heat and tight clearence it will start to gaul. and like a snowball rolling down a mountain it just gets bigger and bigger tell the impeller is ruined, a stainless won't expand like the alum impeller but it still is not good to run dry, balance off? to much run out on the shaft?there is no load on the impeller out of the water and it go where it wants to when you rev it.
this is the only professional opinion on this that matters to me
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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2008, 08:22:54 AM »
so why isn't there a clutch or disconnect available?
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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2008, 08:29:46 AM »
isn't that what a jet a way is for ???
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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2008, 08:31:04 AM »
so why isn't there a clutch or disconnect available?

There are disconnects available, pricey pieces. The jetaway's secondary purpose is as a disconnect. I can't remember the other disconnect available right now.
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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2008, 10:46:49 AM »
Anyone have a link to a jetaway?  Google surprisingly isn't turning up anything.
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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #44 on: February 28, 2008, 10:52:40 AM »
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Re: exactly why? don't run your pump dry?
« Reply #45 on: February 28, 2008, 06:52:02 PM »
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