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Tech Talk => Jet Pumps => Topic started by: 76NORDIC on April 02, 2008, 08:02:45 PM

Title: HYD PD control
Post by: 76NORDIC on April 02, 2008, 08:02:45 PM
Right now I have my Hyd PD up/down toggle switch mounted to the dash on the left side of my steering. I had heard/seen of a switch mounted to the steering wheel. To me it sounds the way to go. Any probs with the cord tangling/twisting or any other probs? Then if all is ok, where to get one?  Mark
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: flytime on April 02, 2008, 08:21:09 PM
www.jetboatperformance.com or Place Diverter. I have the steering wheel control but mounted it next to the forward/reverse handle so I wouldnt have to worry about the cord getting tangled. Works great for me.

Bob
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: jimbo on April 02, 2008, 08:27:47 PM
I mounted mine on my steering wheel , only neg is when your turning up is down and the switch is on the other side of the steering wheel .
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: flytime on April 02, 2008, 08:36:04 PM
I assume this it what you are talking about.

Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: 76NORDIC on April 02, 2008, 08:37:16 PM
sure is
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: UNDONE on April 02, 2008, 08:55:52 PM
They wrap pretty flawlessly around the steering when turning. I personally would prefer it on the dash or a manual on the floor for the reason mentioned by Jimbo. Of the two friends that have theirs on the steering wheel.... I haven't heard any complaints about the cord getting tangled.
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: 76NORDIC on April 02, 2008, 09:13:59 PM
Thanks for the input guys. Still not exactly sure if I want to change the way I have it now. The way I was thinkin, it would be a BIG difference on the ease of use. But with the different opinions hmmmm :screwy: thats what I get for thinkin   lol      mark
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: GlassCutter on April 02, 2008, 09:42:47 PM
I don't think you could ever get the cord tangled as the wheel doesn't go all the way around much, certainly not 5 or 6 times like a car.  Sometimes it is hard to remember which button is up/down when the whole switch is upside down and the lettering is worn off too.
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: just squirtin on April 02, 2008, 09:47:53 PM
using cord  on steering wheel with no problems always know which way is up and down by what side the switch is on and the position of the cord coming out of the switch
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: UNDONE on April 02, 2008, 09:48:33 PM
I liked my old one on the dash, thought it was inconvenient until I drove my friends with the control on the steering wheel. Although the steering wheel mount is nice in really rough water.
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: GAWnCA on April 02, 2008, 10:27:58 PM
I was thinking about something like this:

http://www.cpperformance.com/detail.aspx?ID=7562
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: 76NORDIC on April 02, 2008, 10:38:12 PM
Dang that thing is sweet, vary similar to the ones ive used on bigger boats
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: GAWnCA on April 02, 2008, 10:44:22 PM
Dang that thing is sweet, vary similar to the ones ive used on bigger boats

It's what I'm thinking about replacing my old shifter with.  It would be in a very accessible location.  I think you have to add diodes but Radio Shack has those and just solder in line and heat shrink tubing. 
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: hotrod56cars on April 02, 2008, 11:32:14 PM
I've got a Radio Shack toggle switch on the steering wheel with the curly cord.  :sly:  No problems with the cord getting tangled.
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: GAWnCA on April 03, 2008, 12:01:17 AM
I'm not mounting a DAMN thing on my new steering wheel.

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.comcast.net%2F%7Egregaw%2FNew_Steering_Wheel_006vsm.jpg&hash=1d4ea6e7728d08800673ad0c3acfd3d2f3a6407a)
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.comcast.net%2F%7Egregaw%2FNew+Steering+Wheel+007vsm.jpg&hash=85794a2a8eac2a7c831309d7a324f80b020d3d10)
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: TIMINATOR on April 03, 2008, 07:36:16 AM
Move the switch to the side in front of the shifter. Just sit in the boat, let your arm rest on the gunwale where it normally does when you drive, and mount the switch right where your finger tips end up. Its handy and out of the way too. I don't like the wheel mount because if the wind is from the side, you have to steer into it and the button is not where it usually is. With it on the side, its allways in the same place, much cheaper than the curly cord thing too. TIMINATOR
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: GAWnCA on April 03, 2008, 11:35:25 AM
I'll do something with it.  Either use the toggle switch and mount it near the shifter or get that shifter I liked to and have it all contained in the shift lever.
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: Legal Chemistry on April 03, 2008, 01:12:00 PM
here's an example.  The shifter is dropped all the way down to keep it out of the way.  "Normal" position moves from 10 o'clock to 2 (this gets it completely out of the way for longer cruises)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10520/PD_placement.JPG)
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: speedymopars on April 04, 2008, 07:34:42 AM
I'm not mounting a DAMN thing on my new steering wheel.

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.comcast.net%2F%7Egregaw%2FNew_Steering_Wheel_006vsm.jpg&hash=1d4ea6e7728d08800673ad0c3acfd3d2f3a6407a)
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.comcast.net%2F%7Egregaw%2FNew+Steering+Wheel+007vsm.jpg&hash=85794a2a8eac2a7c831309d7a324f80b020d3d10)

I like! Where did you get it?
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: GAWnCA on April 04, 2008, 07:43:05 AM
I found them at Rex Marine and ordered from Tom at JBP and saved a couple of bucks.  Get ready to dig deep into your pockets.  See your PMs
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: jet boat performance on April 04, 2008, 08:36:06 AM
NICE Wheel Greg !! ;D  Curly cords work fine ,never had any problems ,so do the switches Place provides I tend to recommend the standard switch mounted like Timm said. In Bigger boats where fast reaction isnt an issue. The steering wheel controls are nice in fast hotrods, 1/4 milers etc
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: GAWnCA on April 04, 2008, 09:33:50 AM
Thanks Tom for 2 reasons!!   ;D  I'm going to do a dry run mock up of the dash today and take some photos.  I'll post later.  Maybe I better start my own thread where I can just post the stuff I've done so far.
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: 76NORDIC on April 04, 2008, 11:41:13 AM
What do you guys get for the wheel mounted switches? I am kinda leaning that way now. Thanks for all the info guys ;D      Mark
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: speedymopars on April 04, 2008, 04:49:46 PM
What do you guys get for the wheel mounted switches? I am kinda leaning that way now. Thanks for all the info guys ;D      Mark

I got mine at Place. Though now I'm debating if I am going to mount it on the wheel. I'm thinking the dash would be better.
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: 76NORDIC on April 04, 2008, 05:53:19 PM
What did ya pay? The more I think about it I am really likin the idea of it being on the wheel. Being that I do the quick racing thing with my buddies, the rough water sometimes that we hit, and the yahoos on the river that I sometimes encounter, I like the idea that I can keep BOTH hands on the steering wheel ;D  Mark
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: 76NORDIC on April 04, 2008, 06:30:16 PM
Tom or Josh you guys carry em? and how much if ya do    ;D    Mark
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: speedymopars on April 04, 2008, 07:33:20 PM
What did ya pay? The more I think about it I am really likin the idea of it being on the wheel. Being that I do the quick racing thing with my buddies, the rough water sometimes that we hit, and the yahoos on the river that I sometimes encounter, I like the idea that I can keep BOTH hands on the steering wheel ;D  Mark

It was a bundled deal from place, so I couldn't tell you exactly how much for the switch itself.
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: NORDIC454 on April 04, 2008, 10:49:18 PM
i got mine from Dana Marine Products. bolts to my Moma Dino wheel. Renegade boats/ Harmin Marine in Aneheim has a hub adaptor made for the switch, with a hole machined into it for the wire to run into your column. no tangling, no wire to look at.
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: GAWnCA on April 04, 2008, 10:54:01 PM
i got mine from Dana Marine Products. bolts to my Moma Dino wheel. Renegade boats/ Harmin Marine in Aneheim has a hub adaptor made for the switch, with a hole machined into it for the wire to run into your column. no tangling, no wire to look at.

How about a photo of your's installed?
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: NORDIC454 on April 04, 2008, 10:56:04 PM
Dino wheel
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: NORDIC454 on April 04, 2008, 10:57:01 PM
Crap, sorry, the pic was amall on computer, i thought this had the controll on it. ill try to take one.
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: hotrod56cars on April 04, 2008, 10:57:26 PM
The pic of mine would be for entertainment purposes only and have zero usefull value.  :D
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: 76NORDIC on April 04, 2008, 11:00:50 PM
Why is that Rod ::)
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: NORDIC454 on April 04, 2008, 11:12:40 PM
cant be any less usefull as the pic i posted of a bare wheel.  :screwy:
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: hotrod56cars on April 04, 2008, 11:35:02 PM
Why is that Rod ::)

Because it's very ghetto looking.  :D
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: flytime on April 05, 2008, 09:22:17 AM
I'll post of pic of mine later today. Mounted on the gunnell. Just to give you more ideas.

Bob
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: 76NORDIC on April 07, 2008, 05:42:02 PM
JBP ya guys carry the steering wheel mounted hyd pd control? if so how much    Mark
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: GAWnCA on April 07, 2008, 05:50:25 PM
Guess I'll put my used one up and see what it brings.  I need to start getting a lot of the parts I replaced, together and see if I can make back a fraction of what I've spent.
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: Josh@JBP on April 08, 2008, 11:25:45 AM
JBP ya guys carry the steering wheel mounted hyd pd control? if so how much    Mark

Yes we do.   PM sent ;)
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: 76NORDIC on April 08, 2008, 04:16:54 PM
Thanks Josh got PM and sent ya one     Mark ;D
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: 76NORDIC on April 21, 2008, 11:05:31 AM
Hey Josh did ya ever come up with the deal you were working on?  ;D    Mark
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: 76NORDIC on May 13, 2008, 05:39:23 PM
Hey Josh the switch worked great. Only prob was figuring a way to mount it to the steering. wasnt hard tho. Hooked the green wire form the diverter to the green on the switch and up was up and down down. One question tho why the power wire not to the ignition. thats where I had it hooked to previously and worked fine.   On the hot side of the ignition switch
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: Josh@JBP on May 13, 2008, 05:58:38 PM
Hey Josh the switch worked great. Only prob was figuring a way to mount it to the steering. wasnt hard tho. Hooked the green wire form the diverter to the green on the switch and up was up and down down. One question tho why the power wire not to the ignition. thats where I had it hooked to previously and worked fine.   On the hot side of the ignition switch

I don't run them to the switched ignition wire because it is a fairy small wire and the pump can draw a big load in some cases. Run it to the large 12 volt constant lead (which for the sake of argument is on the back of the ignition switch) .
Title: Re: HYD PD control
Post by: 76NORDIC on May 13, 2008, 06:04:23 PM
Yes Josh that is where I had it hooked up, on the key switch to the always hot side. I like the way it feels tho, kinda under my thumb  ;D ;D   thanks again for hooking me up Josh!!     Mark
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