SoCal Jet Boats
Tech Talk => Jet Pumps => Topic started by: GAWnCA on December 08, 2007, 09:45:25 AM
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Does anyone have any photos of how they ran the hydraulic lines from the diverter to the transom? Tks
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From the resivor(sp) I just drilled 2 holes in the transon and ran them to the diverter. Boat is in winter storage but I will try to get pictures up. I'm sure somebody has some.
Bob
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From the resivor(sp) I just drilled 2 holes in the transon and ran them to the diverter. Boat is in winter storage but I will try to get pictures up. I'm sure somebody has some.
Bob
Thanks Bob,
I'm trying to figure out the best place to drill the holes in the transom so they don't look like everything was an after thought. I was thinking something like this and then had second thoughts due to the forward/reverse cable.
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Then thought it might look better if laid out like the dump fittings and went here.
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Not saying its good or bad -- just that it works. Mine exits appx. above the R in Berkley and flow a perfect S down to the arms on the right side of the pump. Because of swim step, it can't arc up high like your other cable. Several tie-wraps along the way for sure.
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Not saying its good or bad -- just that it works. Mine exits appx. above the R in Berkley and flow a perfect S down to the arms on the right side of the pump. Because of swim step, it can't arc up high like your other cable. Several tie-wraps along the way for sure.
Did you use those plastic fittings that Place Diverter sends? For the cost of the diverter they could have at least sent something made of metal, some plastic crap.
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I didn't install it and I didn't look real close earlier. I just remember a bunch of ugly silicone around the hole. A metal beauty ring would be a nice touch.
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I think the parts I received came for a drip system for the garden.
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http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php/topic,140.0.html
-beerjet-
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http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php/topic,140.0.html
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I guess that would work but I'm going to get rid of the drip system tubing and fittings.
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put them through the transom adapter not the hull
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put them through the transom adapter not the hull
I saw another set up that did it that way and you're right. Much cleaner and better location. I hate drilling the hull. Thanks
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or like Tom did.
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That's tits !!! Very cleanly done sir.
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Well, today the weather is nice so I got busy and installed the Place Diverter hydraulic lines. They may not be right btu they look a lot better than nothing being attached to the ram, so here's what I came up with. They are the small black tubing lines. They may be a little long so if you got any suggestions, feel free to offer them up. I'll be changing them out for stainless braided lines later on.
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Nothing better than the feel of Spring in the air to get you motivated.
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That looks awsome . I asked Hallett Dave about the plastic lines since he's had a hydraulic system for a while . Never had a problem as long as nobody is back there trampling on anything you should be fine . The braided lines arent cheap by any means either but they are sexy as hell .
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Looks great GAWnCA.
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Thanks BJ. I'll run it like this for a while. I've got to tighten the fittings up a bit and call it good. Now comes the inside part... the pump and electrical. I found a really cool shifter at CP Performance but was told I need a diode kit... whatever that means.
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Looks great GAWnCA.
Thanks Hotrod... Now if only summer would get here! :D
Greg
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i used brass bulk head fittings =you have a npt on both ends and so you can use stainless braided lines on the outside=speed shop should have the lines or maybe your local hd store=will try to get photos up soon
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I think I'll leave everything as it is until I get to the paint job and then think about more bling. ;)
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looks good
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looks good
Thanks Forkedup. Tomorrow I hope to install the pumping mechanism and see if it works. If it does, then I'll run the wiring to the dash. But before I can do that, I've got a lot of carpet glue to remove. This poor boat was never meant to have some owners that have had it in the past. I've got to take some more photos so when I do the project thread, like Jork (John) did, I've got a complete story to tell. So far there hasn't been one thing that I haven't had to touch for some sort of repair or replacement.
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I have to install a pump to..so take pics cause i dont have a clue ???
2sav
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I have to install a pump to..so take pics cause i dont have a clue ???
2sav
Hey 2Sav, I'm doing this all by the seat of my pants. The instructions that came from PD suck! and don't ask them anything as they have the poorest tech/customer service I've run into in a long time. So by looking at other's installations and asking questions, I did it the way it's shown on the out side in that boat with the black jet pump. I did hit a hard spot in the transom housing and the drill bit walked a little on me but that's ok. All in all, so far I'm happy with how the exterior tubing hooked up and it doesn't look all that bad. Now for the inside. I'll clean off the crap that's on the transom, install the mounting (plastic crap) bracket and slip the pump in. I've heard stories of the pump bouncing around and spilling ATF all over so I'm going to use something like a bungy cord to strap it in place. Photos will be taken and displayed.
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... I've heard stories of the pump bouncing around and spilling ATF all over so I'm going to use something like a bungy cord to strap it in place. Photos will be taken and displayed.
The hyd pump on my boat was installed into a plastic battery box designed to completely incase the battery. The battery case is covered with oil film on the inside and the oil stays out of the interior. Not to mention the fact that the pump itself is kind of ugly. My battery is also installed in the same type of battery box so it just looks like I have two batteries in battery boxes.
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The hyd pump on my boat was installed into a plastic battery box designed to completely incase the battery. The battery case is covered with oil film on the inside and the oil stays out of the interior. Not to mention the fact that the pump itself is kind of ugly. My battery is also installed in the same type of battery box so it just looks like I have two batteries in battery boxes.
That sounds like a good idea. I guess I'll run down to Auto Zone and see what they might have. Thanks
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hey gaw=you are in sacramento=im in rio linda=you could come over and take a look see at set up on my boat if you like=my number is 212-4964=give a buzz if interested
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hey gaw=you are in sacramento=im in rio linda=you could come over and take a look see at set up on my boat if you like=my number is 212-4964=give a buzz if interested
Maybe one day this week we can hook up. Thanks!
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I had a problem with my pump bouncing out of the plastic bracket when i hit rough water. What i did was, put a piece of innertube between the transom and the hyd pump tightened the screws and it has not bounced out since (2yrs) Last summer one fo my Park Moabi trips had some storrmy weatheron the way back from needles was one hell of a test thot i was on the ocean and it didnt budge Mark
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I had a problem with my pump bouncing out of the plastic bracket when i hit rough water. What i did was, put a piece of innertube between the transom and the hyd pump tightened the screws and it has not bounced out since (2yrs) Last summer one fo my Park Moabi trips had some storrmy weatheron the way back from needles was one hell of a test thot i was on the ocean and it didnt budge Mark
Now, if I can find a inner tube. ??? Thanks for the tip, I'll try it!
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Mine stopped workin once (cuz it was upside down) and have yet to figure out a way to bolt it back down .
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Mine stopped workin once (cuz it was upside down) and have yet to figure out a way to bolt it back down .
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How did your pump get up side down? I'm mounting mine to the transom since the hydraulic lines come in through the transom housing. I am wondering if I should put a wedge in between the pump and the transom since there is some degree of slant. I was also thinking about drilling some over sized holes, epoxy in some hard wood dowels for the mounting screws to bite into rather than the old plywood. The plywood doesn't look all that bad, just would rather have something a little more solid.
Here's a thought, thread the hard wood dowel and tap the hole then epoxy it in place. Should add even more gripping power.
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Jus my .02 but the rubber trick i did was real simple, and its like the rubber takes alot of the shock and takes the slip factor away. Another thing i should prolly mention is it wasnt inner tube but a type of rubber from where i work, very similar to an inneer tube but thicker. Pm me and i can send ya a piece if ya want one. Mark
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we bought a box with a cover and bolted it to the stringers and the cover had a strap to hold down
never had any problems with movement
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Jus my .02 but the rubber trick i did was real simple, and its like the rubber takes alot of the shock and takes the slip factor away. Another thing i should prolly mention is it wasnt inner tube but a type of rubber from where i work, very similar to an inneer tube but thicker. Pm me and i can send ya a piece if ya want one. Mark
I might be able to come up with a piece of mud flap and if it works great, if not, I'll PM you. Thanks for the offer. Greg
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that would be fine greg=mondays/tuesdays=home by 5 pm wed/fri i have high school bbgames gone all nite
thursday anytime after 2:30pm =give me a ring===doug
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Well, I mounted the pump to the inside fo the transom and now need to figure out how to connect those plastic lines to the pump. You can see the lines going up over the back. The pump connections are on this end of the pump just below the solenoids. Any one have any suggestions?
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with all the pounding you are going to have the way you mounted the pump will probaby pull the screws out because of not being supported in the front=as i suggested on previous post -bulkhead fittings will work well and you donot need to caulk around them and they are a solid mount against the transom=i have had ours for three years with no leaks and no moving around problems
plus an enclosed box box might be better as you donot have to worry about water getting into any connections or such and makes a cleaner looking installation
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Hey Doug, Have you got a photo of how you installed your pump? Where did you find a small box to put it in? Greg
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geoff i am not quite photo savy to post but i will give it a shot tonight=how far away do you live from sac
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het gaw=i tried to email you some photos=it replied that 5 photos were sent=let me know if they are the right ones
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hey greg was wondering if you got the photos i emailed you on the diverter pump and hose set up
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hey greg was wondering if you got the photos i emailed you on the diverter pump and hose set up
I haven't seen it but then Comcast has been doing some really goofy things lately. Check your PM.
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this is the box with pump inside=its bolted to the stringer
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i have the lines going thru transom thru bulkhead fittings