SoCal Jet Boats
Tech Talk => Jet Pumps => Topic started by: lilrick on August 23, 2007, 10:05:02 PM
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anybody wanna post some pics of loaders they have tried and what some of the results have been???
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I have this one. http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php/topic,1208.0.html (http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php/topic,1208.0.html) Never cavitates so far. But I'm less than 500HP and max speed maybe 70mph.
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cool, I think I had one like that in the hornet! It's probably still in there.
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cool, I think I had one like that in the hornet! It's probably still in there.
yeah it's still in the hornet, i think it may slow it down a tad because it loads so hard, but thats ok cause we have the speed limit.
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Here is the best I can do right now . I can actually access it real good right now and should pull it out for a close inspection . I was thinkin about a new one but everytime I mess with the set-up , it slows it down .You all know I cant afford that :D
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Omar, I'm concerned about your loader. That is a blocker loader designed to partially block water from entering the pump. It will provide lift for the boat to help it "airout", but in my opinion it will make your boat unload in the corners. The rough water that we create while racing is essentially airing out the boat as well. When drag racing on glassy water, the pump gets sufficient water, but when its rough, you need all you can get. Just my.02
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Since you seem to know a lot more than I do about loaders , Will this one hurt or help my top speed?[attachimg=#][attachimg=#]
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Since you seem to know a lot more than I do about loades , Will this one hurt or help my top speed?
Get yer wife to clean your carpet. :D Marc's loader is made of SS :o
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What the HELL is that. and where does the prop go?
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I was planning on using this loader for the Rogers but...
I need to find out if Dominator pumps use the same loaders and impellor's as Berkeley pumps... ???
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Mark, both loaders are very similar and will work on the same pump. As far as helping or hurting, depends on the application. How much HP do you have? These two loaders are very aggressive and will move alot of water ....If you don't have adequate horsepower to move the volume of water that these loaders will move, then it will bog you down.
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What would be a good all around loader? (running mild setup 500hp and under)
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Mark, both loaders are very similar and will work on the same pump. As far as helping or hurting, depends on the application. How much HP do you have? These two loaders are very aggressive and will move alot of water ....If you don't have adequate horsepower to move the volume of water that these loaders will move, then it will bog you down.
I am somewhere around 450 but next year I should be around 650.
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What would be a good all around loader? (running mild setup 500hp and under)
Let me see what comes out of this liberty today and I'll post some pics.
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Every Boat will work differently with different loaders. But the best loader I have found is the CP Performance Super Sport Loader Scoop. It is an all around good loader. I run one in my boat, the CP extreem loader gives me too much lift and with the Sanger intake it tends to block water flow in the turns.
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Post some pics of those CP loaders so everyone can see what they offer. I think it's worth the $200 to have MPD custom make one for your application , especially since thats what cp gets for one of those off the shelf!!!
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I was told by a reputable shop that my big heavy daycruiser would be helped by an impeller added to the pump. Any thoughts or comments from the peanut gallery? I had never heard of one in a jet boat before.
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I was told by a reputable shop that my big heavy daycruiser would be helped by an impeller added to the pump. Any thoughts or comments from the peanut gallery? I had never heard of one in a jet boat before.
Are you talkng about an inducer impeller? Cuz, you said impeller and your pump should have one of this thing-a-majiggers!!!
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Mmmmm could be. I thought he said impeller but yeah my boat runs so I guess I have all the parts in place. he said there would be some machining involved and it sounded like an impeller for the impeller if that makes sense.
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My friend Don has one on his boat. He has a pretty big heavy boat , and he said it made a world of diffrence. He also likes to ski and wakeboard off of his boat. So I guess it made a big diffrence.
As far as the machining goes , you impeller shaft needs a key way inorder to install the inducer.
Basicly the inducer is a seedoo impeller installed on the shaft in front of your impeller.
Ive had quite a few beers , so somebody correct me if I am wrong!
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Its never wrong to have quite a few beers. i don't see any problem here. Thanks for the info ;D
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You're both right!!
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THE INDUCER EMPELLER WILL KEEP YOUR PUMP LOADED AT ALL TIMES AND IT WILL IMPROVE HOW YOU COME OUT OF THE HOLE AND GIVE YOU BETTER RESPONSE WHEN YOU HIT THE GAS. YOU WILL NEED TO HAVE THE PUMP SHAFT MACHINED TO ADD THIS ON. IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. I HEARD THAT THERE IS SOMEONE MAKING ONE THAT IS NOT CORRECT. IT IS ACTUALLY ROTATING BACKWARDS. IT WILL NOT DO ANYTHING FOR YOU. DONT KNOW THE NAME THOUGH.
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THE INDUCER EMPELLER WILL KEEP YOUR PUMP LOADED AT ALL TIMES AND IT WILL IMPROVE HOW YOU COME OUT OF THE HOLE AND GIVE YOU BETTER RESPONSE WHEN YOU HIT THE GAS. YOU WILL NEED TO HAVE THE PUMP SHAFT MACHINED TO ADD THIS ON. IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. I HEARD THAT THERE IS SOMEONE MAKING ONE THAT IS NOT CORRECT. IT IS ACTUALLY ROTATING BACKWARDS. IT WILL NOT DO ANYTHING FOR YOU. DONT KNOW THE NAME THOUGH.
Why are you yellin'?? ;D
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hey nick! hit this button, would ya!
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hey nick! hit this button, would ya!
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I think his name is Rick! But I am just guessing.
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hey nick! hit this button, would ya!
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what you couldnt of used an english keyboard?
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The inducer empeller will keep your pump loaded at all times and it will improve how you come out of the hole and give you better reponce when you hit the gas. You will need to have the pump shaft machinged to add this on. It makes a big difference. I heard that there is someone making one that is not correct. It is actually rotating backwards. It will not do anything for you. dont know the name though.
wouldn't that be just mounted backwards for the rotation ::) ??? ;D
ehh, what do I know ;)
Rebel
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sorry for YELLIN at ya ;D
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I'm used to it, I'm a big pushover. ;)
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I realized very early on that I'm a retard , BUT WHATS THE BIG FUKIN DEAL WITH CAPS BEING ON . IF IT'S FUGGIN UP YOUR SREEN OR DISTORTING YOUR VISION , THAT SOUNDS LIKE Y/P NOT M/P.
DONT LET THESE GUYS PUSH YOU AROUND NICK . THEY'RE LIKE BIG GAY INMATES ........ I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT . :-X
SOOOOOO ARE WE EVER GOING TO SEE THIS ELUSIVE LOADER THAT JACK IS MAKING OR IS IT TOP SECRET NASA TYPE SHIT . ???
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For all those that have WJ Jacuzzi pumps here is a pic of a loader for it...
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hope the heel of shoe(if that is what it's called) is not too turbulant :-\
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never did take a close look untill yestarday, all I thought I had was a regular Rock Grate, imagin my reaction 8)
As far as performance, she always seems loaded and pulls strong up to almost 130kph... thats almost 80mph for you guys, lol
like the sound of kph though... look ma, I'm doing 130, woo hoo, lmao
Rebel
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SOOOOOO ARE WE EVER GOING TO SEE THIS ELUSIVE LOADER THAT JACK IS MAKING OR IS IT TOP SECRET NASA TYPE SHIT . ???
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As soon as he has time to build it, I'll post some pics .
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Curious... does anyone angle the flat edges of the bars? to alow for the water to run past with less restriction or turbulance?
easy thing to do, any thoughts, might just do it anyways, mine needs paint ::) and if its out...
Rebel
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Curious... does anyone angle the flat edges of the bars? to alow for the water to run past with less restriction or turbulance?
easy thing to do, any thoughts, might just do it anyways, mine needs paint ::) and if its out...
Rebel
everything helps.
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Curious... does anyone angle the flat edges of the bars? to alow for the water to run past with less restriction or turbulance?
easy thing to do, any thoughts, might just do it anyways, mine needs paint ::) and if its out...
Rebel
The loader I have has angles on it's horizontal bars but not on it's vertical bars... ???
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everything helps.
Kind of what I was thinking ;), now to make a jig and get grinding!
Rebel