SoCal Jet Boats

Tech Talk => Jet Pumps => Topic started by: Brad @ SCJB on March 06, 2012, 01:06:58 PM

Title: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on March 06, 2012, 01:06:58 PM
So since im waiting on parts i figured id finally get around to cleaning up my place diverter. Its heavily modified and been ground on quite a bit leaving a lot of rough edges and the paint lookin like shit.

So i took it apart and smoothed out my edges and i plan on having it stripped and re powder coated. My big hurdle at this point is getting the reverse bucket off. The pins are pressed into the bucket and spin freely in the nozzle. The pins dont go all the way through into the nozzle so you cant press them through. Can i pry it off without snapping the bucket in 1/2?

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Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: SoCalPSD on March 06, 2012, 01:13:31 PM
I thought the pins were held in place with the smaller pins pressed ontop of them?

Fat fingered from the phone-  Corey
Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on March 06, 2012, 01:21:33 PM
Yes they are held in by smaller allen bolts. Ive taken them out, but the pins are pressed into the bucket firmly.
Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: SoCalPSD on March 06, 2012, 01:30:08 PM
Could you drill about about a 1/4 inch in put a bolt in there and use a puller to get it out

Fat fingered from the phone-  Corey
Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on March 06, 2012, 01:39:05 PM
I could but that seems quite a bit of a pain in the ass. :-/
Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: ka0tyk on March 06, 2012, 01:43:03 PM
http://www.performanceboats.com/jet-boats/44003-how-do-you-remove-reverse-bucket-place-diverter.html (http://www.performanceboats.com/jet-boats/44003-how-do-you-remove-reverse-bucket-place-diverter.html)

some good ideas in here. 
Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on March 06, 2012, 01:56:25 PM
They areway too tight in there for the magnet trick. Im not gunna fudge up the surface tach welding on a bolt. I can see myself really fuckin them up tryin to drill a hole. Im gunna give the break cleaner method a try. Maybe it will free it up.
Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: SoCalPSD on March 06, 2012, 02:31:16 PM
Could always torch it to heat it up

Fat fingered from the phone-  Corey
Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: mobboss on March 06, 2012, 03:00:10 PM
does anyone have a manual????  the reverse bucket was put on some way. i would not try to bend it.
Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: Your Mom on March 06, 2012, 06:13:24 PM
Heating them would melt the inside nylon bushing but might make it easier for them to come out. You would need to work on them right as they are hot and use a small allen in the bolt hole to push on pin out.  I just got done painting mine and had a couple bungees pulling at different areas to keep it all open to paint. Had from my bowl out off to paint.....old bowl came right off without taking the trans cover off.
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Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: GT Jets on March 06, 2012, 09:59:10 PM
Being as your going to strip and powder coat them anyways, get some muriatic acid (pool acid) and a plastic bucket and put about a gallon of water to a gallon of acid (important to add the water to the bucket THEN the acid.) and soak the nozzle/bucket for about an hour.

This will free the scale from around the stainless pin and it should literally damn near fall out...Just be sure to rinse the parts in plenty of fresh water before you grab hold of it.. :sly:  ;D

Been doing this for 20 years and this is by far the least destructive and least amount of labor this could be done.... ;)

It may require a second dunking...If really stubborn, a third.... :)

GT
Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on March 07, 2012, 12:16:18 AM
i got them out....it took a lot of map gas and some inventing of new cuss words, but i got them out.

i had to use a thin punch to pry them out via the bolt holes on the side once i had it blistering hot (i got burns to prove it). yes, I did bang up the threads inside the pins doing it, but I just chased them with a tap and its all good.  :thumbup:

ill post more pics of this project as it progresses.
Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: NORDIC454 on March 07, 2012, 03:08:30 PM
its all been nicely massaged with the flapper disc by yours truly, and off to powder-coat tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on March 14, 2012, 11:42:22 AM
Just bought all new stainless hardware and picked up the parta from powder coat today
Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: CHROMEY on March 14, 2012, 11:56:59 AM
Nice parts!  ;)
Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on March 14, 2012, 03:07:53 PM
Got wedge?

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Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: IRRebel on March 14, 2012, 03:16:23 PM
I wanna hear the invented cusswords!  >:D

Brad, The roost was rediculously crazy outta that thing as it was! I'm quite sure you found even some more there, my friend........... :screwy:

Ray
Title: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: 74hondo on March 14, 2012, 04:16:04 PM
That's a lot of wedge!
Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: SoCalPSD on March 14, 2012, 04:22:29 PM
Trying to shoot the moon or just the planes overhead?

Fat fingered from the phone-  Corey
Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on March 14, 2012, 06:09:23 PM
A little up nozzle action....

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Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: Nick on March 15, 2012, 07:03:04 AM
Brad, That is a shetload of upwards wedge, how does she ride when you're not roostin'? I would imagine it's not very easy to manage, is that part of the reason for the "turning fin" or have you grown a liking for fin because you've had to run them on the circle boat?
Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on March 15, 2012, 07:11:41 AM
When its fully down, its straight in relation to the boat. It rides fine. It even rides very well when full up. Doesnt porpoise at all. The fin doesnt do much at all, its there for cosmetics at best.
Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: Nick on March 15, 2012, 11:53:52 AM
I see, I bet she throws a nice roost when you guys are at Parker next weekend! Lookin' forward to a picture.
Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: pahrnic on May 10, 2012, 11:41:20 AM
A little up nozzle action....

What is on that a rooster booster and two wedges?? Thats awesome i wanna do that! O0
Title: Re: Place Diverter Rebuild
Post by: GT Jets on May 10, 2012, 12:12:48 PM

A little up nozzle action....


What is on that a rooster booster and two wedges?? Thats awesome i wanna do that! O0

That would be three wedges....Don't sell him short... :sly:
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