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Brad @ SCJB

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Dream Pump
« on: May 18, 2010, 08:08:46 AM »
What is your dream pump setup and why?

Without considering budget....how would you build your pump?

Reason I am asking, I am building a pump for my compjet boat and have been pulled in so many directions as far as impeller size, material, to induce or not, etc etc etc....

Obviously I am looking for top speed, but able to jump out of the hole in the turns as well. I am running a 19' boat....my previous pump setup ran 94 mph with 750hp @ 5800 rpms. it had an aluminum American Turbine A impeller.

Obviously cast aluminum is out of the question....what about billet aluminum? bronze? should i spend the $$ for stainless?

should I run and inducer? which one?

What bowl should I run? should i run a stuffer?

intake setup? should I set it at 4 degrees or 5?

Just asking for some input...suggestions....insight....etc.
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River Roy

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Re: Dream Pump
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2010, 08:47:49 AM »
I'm just about ready to build my JE pump and am wondering the exact same things, Mine is a 19 Foot Baja and only 500 Horse. Roy.
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Re: Dream Pump
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2010, 07:31:50 AM »
This would be my choice  ;) Josh is building this Pump for my Mach1 which currently sports a Blown BBC: Later Dominator Suction (extra strong casting) This suction has had a few uneccesary pounds removed in non structural areas to improve flow the interior has been ground and throated , smoothed and deburred , has Josh's reworked new style bearing cap double drilled has a reinforced Clean out cover ,It has a 17-4 Dominator race shaft (cut for inducer to maybe be added later) , uses a Standard Koyo bearing all Parker seals PTFE graphite packings ,  Shouldered Wear ring ,position "pinned" , Detailed and indexed Bronze AA Impeller (could be stainless) , High flow converted "C" bowl , Place droop (bored and relived) Place HPH mini droop and modified Place divereter (reverse filled and plated ) refitted with Berkeley "R" bucket, suction is dowled and matched to the Alpha 5* intake boat currently has a 13 3/4 intake opening , shoe is an 1/8 up from keel and the boat is running  a semi pro loader suction is drilled , tapped and fitted for top and bottom readings  Tom



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Re: Dream Pump
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2010, 07:49:26 AM »
Nice looking pump Tom.  :thumbup:
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Re: Dream Pump
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2010, 10:05:14 AM »
hmmmmmm... a stock ass jacuzzi wj with diverter, solid! thats how i roll!  :beer:
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Re: Dream Pump
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2010, 10:11:13 AM »
I kinda like your's Tom!  ;)

We'll see how well Pickle responds to more HP very soon, but it was redone, well, NOW 31 running hours ago with a bronze AA. Add in the new SOOOPER loader Nick made for me, and maybe we'll have an idea how good an old JB is......

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Re: Dream Pump
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2010, 10:28:20 AM »
4700 rpm with a bronze AA  :o
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Re: Dream Pump
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2010, 09:43:53 PM »
Although not the suction Josh is building from heres the Jet with the modified Place diverter and converted "C" bowl Tom

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Re: Dream Pump
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2010, 10:09:22 AM »
Brad

I would try an inducer, definately a stuffer, Stainless impeller ( you said cost unlimited) and I'd go 5 degree (you can always backcut the shoe and wedge the nozzel) Have a pump box the size of a pickup bed with assorted loaders, nozzel shims, wedges ( two 6 degree drilled for an R pump can be rotated arround to almost any angle between 12 up or 12 down) and plenty of nozzel studs of vaying lengths. and always look for places where cavitation can start and fill it or blend in the casting to eliminate it.  We used epoxy puddy to fill in the cleanout plug and fare in the tail cone screw. we also filled in the space  behind the impeller to the suction piece once but it broke loose and almost locked up the motor (don't do that one).  Prep the impellor so it's easy to pull and spray it with Dycum before each run to see where it's cavitating. Then massage the impeller until the Dycum stays put.  McClure can tell you how to best remove material without screwing up the pump.  You can also have the pump spin ballanced once you have everything else done.  We also profiled the straightening vains in the bowl and tested to see if any of the water comming out of the pump fell off to one side (water spinning out of the pump) it would tell you which side of the vains needed more work.  Jack can also set you up with a new low profile intake but as I remember it takes a while to match it to the suction piece.
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Re: Dream Pump
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2010, 12:41:48 PM »
Brad

I would try an inducer, definately a stuffer, Stainless impeller ( you said cost unlimited) and I'd go 5 degree (you can always backcut the shoe and wedge the nozzel) Have a pump box the size of a pickup bed with assorted loaders, nozzel shims, wedges ( two 6 degree drilled for an R pump can be rotated arround to almost any angle between 12 up or 12 down) and plenty of nozzel studs of vaying lengths. and always look for places where cavitation can start and fill it or blend in the casting to eliminate it.  We used epoxy puddy to fill in the cleanout plug and fare in the tail cone screw. we also filled in the space  behind the impeller to the suction piece once but it broke loose and almost locked up the motor (don't do that one).  Prep the impellor so it's easy to pull and spray it with Dycum before each run to see where it's cavitating. Then massage the impeller until the Dycum stays put.  McClure can tell you how to best remove material without screwing up the pump.  You can also have the pump spin ballanced once you have everything else done.  We also profiled the straightening vains in the bowl and tested to see if any of the water comming out of the pump fell off to one side (water spinning out of the pump) it would tell you which side of the vains needed more work.  Jack can also set you up with a new low profile intake but as I remember it takes a while to match it to the suction piece.

This stuff?

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Re: Dream Pump
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2010, 08:18:17 AM »
That's da stuff.  We used blue but no matter it's all the same I think,
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