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Tech Talk => Jet Pumps => Topic started by: Ckaz21 on February 24, 2015, 01:23:48 PM

Title: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: Ckaz21 on February 24, 2015, 01:23:48 PM
Hey Guys,

Just looking for everyone's thoughts on the place diverter dropp and rideplate kit. I'm considering it for a cheaper alternative to getting my intake machine for a ridplate etc.

Link: http://placediverter.com/proddetail.php?prod=place_diverter_droop_snoot (http://placediverter.com/proddetail.php?prod=place_diverter_droop_snoot)

Thanks
Title: Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: jyeager on February 24, 2015, 01:35:18 PM

Hey Guys,

Just looking for everyone's thoughts on the place diverter dropp and rideplate kit. I'm considering it for a cheaper alternative to getting my intake machine for a ridplate etc.

Link: http://placediverter.com/proddetail.php?prod=place_diverter_droop_snoot (http://placediverter.com/proddetail.php?prod=place_diverter_droop_snoot)

Thanks
I've seen that combo work well. 78 Nordic here on the boards put that set up on his boat and it really woke it up.

But if the intake has to come out of the boat I would just do a true shoe and ride plate. 👍👍


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Title: Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: Ckaz21 on February 24, 2015, 01:40:14 PM
Intake doesn't have to come out, thats why I'm thinking about giving it a try. I suppose there isn't a way to tell which droop your boat will respond better to besides guess/checking?
Title: Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: jyeager on February 24, 2015, 01:59:38 PM

Intake doesn't have to come out, thats why I'm thinking about giving it a try. I suppose there isn't a way to tell which droop your boat will respond better to besides guess/checking?
What kind of boat do you have?


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Title: Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: Ckaz21 on February 24, 2015, 02:22:59 PM
1984 Tahiti. Hardin and Caribbean made the same hull. It is a real solid and heavy boat for what it is. 18ft long

Here is a pic of the exact same boat: http://www.vintagejetboats.com/showthread.php?5547-Caribbean-Hardin-Marine (http://www.vintagejetboats.com/showthread.php?5547-Caribbean-Hardin-Marine)

Title: Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: jyeager on February 24, 2015, 02:46:21 PM

1984 Tahiti. Hardin and Caribbean made the same hull. It is a real solid and heavy boat for what it is. 18ft long

Here is a pic of the exact same boat: http://www.vintagejetboats.com/showthread.php?5547-Caribbean-Hardin-Marine (http://www.vintagejetboats.com/showthread.php?5547-Caribbean-Hardin-Marine)
I would try it out. Also a place Diverter if you don't have one already.


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Title: Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: Ckaz21 on February 24, 2015, 02:52:31 PM
Will do.  I have a diverter already but she still rides pretty wet.

This is with the diverter all the way up
Title: Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: jet fever on February 24, 2015, 08:39:46 PM
Love when she rides wet....

What if you add a droop and it rides like crap?  I mean do you wanna shoot higher roost or are you just trying to go faster?
Title: Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: GT Jets on February 24, 2015, 09:24:36 PM
Will do.  I have a diverter already but she still rides pretty wet.

This is with the diverter all the way up

That hull is just gong to ride dirty. Betting there is a 3/8" hook in that badboy.

I think the droop will help a ton. You will need a bit of hp to make it work to gain speed but the droop will free it up.

Jet fever lol.

GT

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Title: Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: Ckaz21 on February 25, 2015, 09:51:24 AM
Just looking to make it ride a little better and get the boat out of the water. There is a slight hook in it, not sure how big. I'm thinking the droop and ride plate is worth a try, I'm already pushing a little over 500 ponies so I think it should make a decent difference.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: jet fever on February 25, 2015, 09:55:15 AM
Well droop is quick an easy if u got money to play with I say go for it first. 
Title: Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: SoCalPSD on February 25, 2015, 11:05:46 AM
Well depending on your RPM in the picture and depending on how much gas was in the tanks the boat doesn't look too bad, with the diverter at full up you're basically trying to bury the rear end. So you can really can't rely on that pic. The best nozzle position for performance at speed is usually  between 1/2 and 3/4 up. Basically at that point where the roost is just above the water.

And as far a a better ride quality what are you trying to correct or improve on? Porpoising?


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Title: Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: Ckaz21 on February 25, 2015, 11:27:33 AM
That is with both tanks almost empty and turning about 5,200RPM. A impeller. The boat doesnt porpoise at all but it just gets squirrely sometimes and steers like sh*t and like I said I think it rides too wet, although with my hull it made be hard to correct it riding wet cause of the hull design, it has a deeper V than I originally thought.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: jet fever on February 25, 2015, 11:36:05 AM
Yeah fully trimmed out your gonna only wanna go straight it wont turn easy but if the PD nozzle is in neutral position should steer normal. 
How fast are you going at 5200rpm?
Title: Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: Ckaz21 on February 25, 2015, 11:49:51 AM
It just steers terribly in general. Worst steering jet I've ever owned. I'm thinking about doing a rudder as well. She tops out right at 75MPH Spinning about 5,400-5,500RPM. At 5,200 I think its right at 70-72. I've only had the gps on a few times when I making a pass.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: jet fever on February 25, 2015, 11:53:53 AM
Ohh well that sucks.  The damn rudder gonna be lil extra drag
Title: Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: jet fever on February 25, 2015, 11:58:40 AM
If I had 500 HP Id rip it out and find a different hull to drop it in

Just sayin
Title: Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: Ckaz21 on February 25, 2015, 12:22:07 PM
To be honest I already have it up for sale. Lol. It's a nice boat I just want a faster hull.
Title: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: SoCalPSD on February 25, 2015, 02:00:58 PM
I don't think a turn fin will help you at all, try a mini droop. It will bring the nozzle down some but won't stuff it in the water. I had a similar hull and a full drop made it porpoise at cruising speed, only way I could make it stop was dropping the diverter or nailing it and it was never a problem before that. I was gonna go with a mini but never got that far. Sold it before I could try it. So I think a mini would help you lift it some more and help with your turning. Also, any slack in the steering cable or excessive play I'm the rack or anywhere else?


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Title: Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: Ckaz21 on February 25, 2015, 02:16:28 PM
No slack in the steering. I've thought about a mini droop....I guess there's no way to know for sure until I try both lol.
Title: Re: Thoughts on Place Diverter's Droop and Rideplate
Post by: SoCalPSD on February 25, 2015, 06:18:41 PM
Well if you can get ahold of a used mini droop it's worth a shot before you go and buy a full droop and ride plate


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