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Tech Talk => Jet Pumps => Topic started by: OC2Vegas on May 03, 2010, 07:35:00 PM

Title: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: OC2Vegas on May 03, 2010, 07:35:00 PM
Anyone have a copy of them? Apparently Place doesnt put this stuff online.
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: crewchief22 on May 03, 2010, 07:38:53 PM
Are they using a Bennett type pump?

http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/techhome.php
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: OC2Vegas on May 03, 2010, 07:43:02 PM
Are they using a Bennett type pump?

http://www.bennetttrimtabs.com/techhome.php

They do use the Bennett. I read/heard that the Place one has 2 more solinoids then if it came directly from Bennett, Dont know if its true or if it even matters...
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: crewchief22 on May 03, 2010, 07:47:37 PM
I've been looking through the Bennett sight and still can't find a diagram  :screwy:
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: OC2Vegas on May 03, 2010, 07:49:25 PM
I've been looking through the Bennett sight and still can't find a diagram  :screwy:

2 hours online searching and still cant find one!
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: crewchief22 on May 03, 2010, 07:59:21 PM
I think I found something.  Give me a few minutes to see if I can get it posted over here.
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: GT Jets on May 03, 2010, 08:01:07 PM
What do you need the diagram for???????It's only four wires... :screwy:

You need a double pole double throw switch, the motor need to reverse and the solenoids need to be tied to the appropriate direction..

I will have it for you in a jiffy... :thumbup:

GT
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: OC2Vegas on May 03, 2010, 08:05:23 PM
What do you need the diagram for???????It's only four wires... :screwy:

You need a double pole double throw switch, the motor need to reverse and the solenoids need to be tied to the appropriate direction..

I will have it for you in a jiffy... :thumbup:

GT

Last time I saw one up close that was installed, it had a relay wired in with it, but I dont have a relay in my wiring so I wanted to make sure it was correct. Dont want to fry the pump and create another issue for myself
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: crewchief22 on May 03, 2010, 08:06:32 PM
check this

http://www.performanceboats.com/html/forums/showthread.php?t=47128
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: OC2Vegas on May 03, 2010, 08:13:51 PM
check this

http://www.performanceboats.com/html/forums/showthread.php?t=47128

Saw that one, but it just shows wiring in the Banderlog relay. Someone in that thread said he had his wired with the Bosch relay, but didnt explain any further...
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: IRRebel on May 04, 2010, 02:16:42 AM
Last time I saw one up close that was installed, it had a relay wired in with it, but I dont have a relay in my wiring so I wanted to make sure it was correct. Dont want to fry the pump and create another issue for myself

Last one you saw was mine! Unfortunately, I don't think pics of that are even possible.......... PM Ralph. He just put one in his "Family Boat"  ;)

Ray
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: Ralph Brunt on May 04, 2010, 06:26:40 AM
i have the diagram and will scan it for you when i get home tonight, no releys
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: OC2Vegas on May 04, 2010, 08:37:10 AM
i have the diagram and will scan it for you when i get home tonight, no releys

Thanks Ralph.

Your correct ray, I remember yours having a relay in it and having to replace it when it went out. Started thinking about yesterday when I was running the hydraulic lines. About to fill it up with ATF and check for leaks and didn't want to damage the pump by not having it.

Here's a question, have read that having the power coming through the ignition to the switch causes load issues. Any truth to that? Should I run a dedicated line from the battery and not have It on the ignition switch?
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: Luckie Stiff on May 04, 2010, 08:43:26 AM
Should I run a dedicated line from the battery and not have It on the ignition switch?

Yes. I ran mine to the ign. It didn't work for shit, ran a 10GA primary wire from the battery, it works bitchin'. Thanks Ralph!
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: OC2Vegas on May 04, 2010, 08:47:19 AM
Yes. I ran mine to the ign. It didn't work for shit, ran a 10GA primary wire from the battery, it works bitchin'.

Thanks. Time to run a new power wire
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: IRRebel on May 04, 2010, 11:02:22 AM
Yes. I ran mine to the ign. It didn't work for shit, ran a 10GA primary wire from the battery, it works bitchin'. Thanks Ralph!

X2, That's why you'll normally see a relay on there, as mine did. The more crap you run through the ignition switch, the more load you put on the contacts in the switch. They're not designed for that. Hence the relays, that actually take the load the switch just trips the relay, if your dead set on everything coming on with the ignition switch. Not that complicated to wire that way, and convenient if you want to make sure when the key is off, EVERYTHING is off.

Your boats not that complicated. No bilge blowers, electric fuel pumps or stereo, yet, shouldn't be a real issue. Just do what Ralph and Skip said.

Ray
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: fast fred on May 04, 2010, 03:48:59 PM
Theres not relays but there is dioades (sp?). If your just running the up and down or neutral return switch that comes with Bennett pump then it wires directly to the switch. If you run the switch that goes on the steering wheel then you have to run dioades.




                         An up and down switch goes like this


                                   Yellow   ign    Blue

                                   Green    ign    Red


I have the diagram for the wheel switch but im to retarded to scan it and post it. If you give me a call i can fax it to you or explain it over the phone. Matt  928-230-4189


                               

                         
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: Ralph Brunt on May 04, 2010, 08:24:28 PM
here ya go
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10041/img001.jpg)
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10041/img002.jpg)
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: GT Jets on May 04, 2010, 08:57:28 PM
Crap, I forgot all about you, my daughter was doing homework until 10PM  :screwy:

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GT
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: IRRebel on May 04, 2010, 11:25:17 PM
He got it and it's werking fine. Just needs to refill it and bleed it, should be GTG.  :thumbup:

Good Info guys! Little does Jeremy know I've got a vested interest in this thread because I will be soon running three or four of these pumps. Relays is the only way to do it right, and safely, considering, fuel pumps, etc, etc....Gonna have a bank of relays that resemble a missile launch facility I imagine....... ;)

Ray

Ralph, thanks for the steering wheel wiring part of it. I was thinking about that route!
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: OC2Vegas on May 04, 2010, 11:25:20 PM
Thanks guys, got it wired (direct to the battery, w/ fuse), plummed, drained old fluid and refilled with new ATF. Works perfect and no leaks!

Maybe the wiring diagrams/install instructions should be stickied since they aren't easy to find. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on May 05, 2010, 08:14:39 AM
BTW - just a note here....there is no bleeding the system (like you would you car brake system)

just do full up and full down a few times and it works the bubbles out itself.
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: slow67 on May 05, 2010, 09:01:52 AM
BTW - just a note here....there is no bleeding the system (like you would you car brake system)

just do full up and full down a few times and it works the bubbles out itself.

So its more like bleeding out a power steering pump  ;D
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: OC2Vegas on May 05, 2010, 08:18:07 PM
BTW - just a note here....there is no bleeding the system (like you would you car brake system)

just do full up and full down a few times and it works the bubbles out itself.

That part was easy to find on Bennetts website! Once I was sure it was wired right, the fluid part was very easy!
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: HDriderTH on May 06, 2010, 09:11:13 AM
Wow, sombody needs to notifiy PLACE of the mistake on their instruction sheet. The very last two words are "to ignition". We might want to contact SANGER too. I'm sure they'd be greatfull to hear they've been doing it wrong for the last thirty years also.  So, a couple o extra relays and fourty feet of 10ga and they're GTG? Damn, whoda thunkit?
Title: Re: Wiring Diagram/Instructions for Hydraulic Diverter
Post by: Luckie Stiff on May 06, 2010, 09:26:56 AM
extra relays? what the hell are you talking about? I just ran a power wire up to the switch. used that instead of the power from the ignition switch.
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