I went from needles marina to pirates to the gorge. Great time! Then my buddy, whos in a huge 25 footer, says LETS GO TO HAVASU! Huge mistake. Although mine is a 21 footer, it was horrible!!! Ive never seen it so choppy! The worst boat ride of my life. I may have lost a tooth and damaged my kidneys. Never again on a big weekend. The river: yes.