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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: 1971 Southwind 429 SCJ worth doing?

« on: January 30, 2020, 06:41:37 PM »

Quote from: The_Dean_85 on January 30, 2020, 02:35:21 PM

PM sent

Dean PM sent.

As I said earlier I am done with this, but here's the deal...
Almost 30 years ago I gave my brother in-law (same Bro in-law that owns the Southwind) a 19' Tahiti tri-hull with an LS6 454/ Berkeley. He said about 10 years ago the stringers went bad, so it's just sitting in Oregon next to the Southwind. If the LS6 hasn't rusted (?) and if it was me... I would strip the Tahiti and fix the Southwind with the BB Chevy. I just don't have the time or room for two boats in my yard right now, but some day it could happen.

---Bill.

Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: 1971 Southwind 429 SCJ worth doing?

« on: January 29, 2020, 06:16:12 PM »

Well, I got the heads cleaned up (Evapo-Rust) and everything tore down. Block and heads loaded, going for machine work. When I see it... 4" crack in the block behind the #8 cylinder

The crack was hiding behind the flex plate and block plate, even after I removed them, to pull the crank, did not see the crack because the engine stand was in the way.

Only after everything was loaded, ready to go, then I see it.

Not sure what will happen with the Southwind, I am done with this deal.
Probably start looking for a boat to buy. Wife said I better have something to put in the water by summer.

Got a good set of SCJ heads (casing # D00E-R) if anyone is interested.

---Bill.

Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: 1971 Southwind 429 SCJ worth doing?

« on: December 21, 2019, 09:24:04 AM »

Quote from: LakesOnly on December 18, 2019, 03:41:42 PM

Bill,
This is all way too much to type so please grab a pen & paper and call me at the shop number and I'll be happy to answer all your questions and point you in the right direction...

Thanks, I will do that after the first of the year. I'm putting this project on hold, busy prepping my Camaro for an outing in January. The track (Fontana) is open Jan 4/5 2020 Hangover Bracket Bash.

Quote from: Flusher on December 19, 2019, 06:17:22 AM

I know LakesOnly will give you the best advice, but I will say it anyway.

Don't just bore the block oversize. If the bores aren't damaged, maybe it can remain standard.

It always bothers me when life is unnecessarily taken out of a rare block.

Not sure if the block can stay stranded, not boring it, unless it's needed.

Bill.

Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: 1971 Southwind 429 SCJ worth doing?

« on: December 16, 2019, 08:24:49 PM »

Quote from: Flusher on December 15, 2019, 06:57:09 AM

I would break out the Evapo-Rust and....

Thanks for this tip ^^^ "Evapo-Rust" never heard of it. After some research, found some videos, looks like some pretty amassing stuff! Got 5 gallons on the way.

Talked to the bro in-law today trying to find out more about the condition of the boat.
No interior... He said it when bad a few years back and he through it away.
He says the hull, glass, gelcoat, stringers are all in great shape.
Pump was freshened just before the engine problem.
He is going to get me pics when it stops raining up there.

During our talk he told me the story when he purchased the boat new, here in Riverside Ca, back in 1971. Pretty interesting if true??
He said in 1971 Malcolm Smith (of motorcycle, desert racer fame) either owned/started or part-owner or invested in or endorsed SouthWind boats? This boat is one of just 4, or was #4 (?) while Malcolm had a connection with SouthWind.
According to Mike (bro in-law) Malcolm sold his interest in SouthWind shortly after he took delivery of this boat from Malcolm.
I tried to search info on the above, no luck. So if anyone has heard anything like this before, please post what you know. I am curious what part, if any of the above is true? I don't think any of this helps the boats value and it may hurt it, usually early versions can be questionable?

---Bill.

Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: 1971 Southwind 429 SCJ worth doing?

« on: December 15, 2019, 02:10:41 PM »

I hear ya, Have considered selling the SCJ parts, but as you suspected there is some sentimental value in keeping it with the original motor.

Model? Only thing I remember was it is 18'

Yes I am a DIY'er and I understand it is really going to come down to "depends on condition" of the rest of the boat.
I have been told stringers are good. It was stored inside until recently, how recent, I don't know? Last time I saw the boat it was a time capsule and in perfect condition, (15+ years) but now after seeing the condition of the engine parts, I have real concerns.

Guess I should get the block magnafluxed for cracks and have someone look at the exhaust seats. I am assuming they should be replace with hardened ones?

---Bill.

Engine Mechanical / Electrical / 1971 Southwind 429 SCJ worth doing?

« on: December 14, 2019, 04:26:28 PM »

Newbie here, been reading a lot, first post...
The boat (free if I want it) is in Oregon, last time I saw it was 15+ years ago.
Around that time while pulling a skier up, an engine knock developed. They (my brother in-law) took it home and partially disassembled the engine. Then left it to rust

I now have just the engine here in SoCal, boat is still in OR. The #2 piston has a broken skirt, bores have surface rust, rod caps are junk from rust, crank is a maybe (?), heads (D00E-R) need a few valves and exhaust seats are rust pitted, guides are good. Block (D0VE-A) is a 4 bolt main, some of the freeze plugs are pushed out and one is missing, froze with water in it?
Most of the other parts are junk.

If the block is able to go +.030" and the heads can be saved with some new hardened exhaust seats and a few valves... I will do a Scatt Rotating Assembly (502 ci), cam, lifters, springs, chain, push rods, rockers, oil pump, etc...
Probably going to be in the ball park of $5500. with machine work.

So my Question is it worth spending close to $6K on a 1971 South Wind?

It has a Berkeley pump with a stainless impeller, unknown cut.
BTW, I am a drag racer and mostly a Chevy guy, so building a BB Ford to make peak power at 5K is a little foreign and hard to wrap my head around. But with help from the great forum you guys have here I am confident it could work.

---Bill.

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