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Boats For Sale / Re: This or a jet boat. !!!!!
« on: June 30, 2014, 08:48:39 PM »
I don't get the whole hot rod pontoon boat thing.  Just its name is an oxymoron.  I would love a pontoon, my parents had one, and what made it cool to me was cruising around and relaxing. It had a whopping 40hp o/b on it.  A 540 in a pontoon? :screwy:   
Put that 540 in a 21 Ultra Deck boat with a fully built jet, now we're talking.  There's your river family hot rod that seats 10 comfortably. That's how I'd drop 40g's, that is if I had 40g's to drop. :sly:

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Headgaskets and Intake
« on: June 30, 2014, 08:31:21 PM »
Quote from: ka0tyk on June 30, 2014, 11:49:58 AM
the squares are little metal restrictor inserts.  your intake has the crossover tube in it.  if you use a gasket with it blocked off, eventually the water will penetrate it.  the crossover tube is to warm the intake air when cold to help with keeping a constant air intake temp for smog and smooth idle when cold in a car, and also to cool the intake from the hot oil splashing on the intake manifold from the cam whirling around.  honestly with the oval port heads and intake you're not exactly going to notice the difference with it open or not.  MOST aftermarket intake manifolds are gonna have it blocked off.

Not to be picky but water does not flow through the crossover.  Exhaust gasses flow through there. Yes it heats the carb base to help cold start, but mostly it's an EGR port for emissions, which boats don't have, so yes it should be  blocked off. 

OP, the cardboard intake gaskets will work fine.  Make sure your surfaces are clean, and put a very light coat of silicone around your water ports on each end.  Throw away the end gaskets and run a bead of silicone on each end.  Let your silicone sit to "air" about 5 minutes before you set your intake on it.  Tighten from the center out and don't over tighten the bolts. Torque is 25 ftlbs . I've added a link from Edelbrock that shows the sequence at the bottom. Good luck.


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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: One wire alternator
« on: June 30, 2014, 07:58:45 PM »
Quote from: vintage240zracer on June 30, 2014, 05:47:39 PM
X2 on that- Though make sure you wire in a diode or have a full disconnect on either + or - so your battery does not get drained overnight-
My race cars all use 1 wire alt but I hate when I forget to disconnect as the battery will be completely dead in 48 hrs.

JW

I would think you've got something else causing a draw.  I can't see how the alternator can be pulling any juice when not in use unless you're pulling juice from this circuit to power something else.  I've always wired direct to the starter, or remote starter solenoid, or a direct battery + lug.  I know some people put a diode in so as not to back feed the ignition system.  Sometimes the boat won't turn off otherwise.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: One wire alternator
« on: June 30, 2014, 01:59:52 PM »
Yes you can come straight off the starter "Batt" lug to the alternator.

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The No Wake Zone / Re: 4th of July 2014...!!
« on: June 27, 2014, 04:49:10 PM »
Heading out Friday morning to Hidden Beaches,  told Steve86TA we'd travel down and try to meet up with you guy's out of Mac probably Saturday.  I'm sure I'll cross paths with Steve and Sam now that we're neighbors.  Wouldn't want to miss the show Steve puts on after a couple cocktails.:sly::thumbup:

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Projects / Re: 1975 DiMarco Circle Boat Project "SoCalJetBoats Exclusive"
« on: June 26, 2014, 07:47:07 PM »
Quote from: jyeager on June 26, 2014, 06:11:00 PM
Well theres a part of this build that i havent told many people...... This project was for my sister! :screwy: :screwy: she has wanted a boat for as long as i have so my dad and i made it happen. she is stoked as hell!





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AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! what a nice brother!! :sly:

Seriously, that's cool!  I love the family aspect, she looks stoked.  One of my greatest pleasures in life is seeing the closeness between my son and daughter, I'm sure your dad's a proud poppa.  Job well done!

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The No Wake Zone / Re: ouch Boat on freeway
« on: June 26, 2014, 06:11:55 PM »
"Clean bottom, never been beached!"

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Jet Pumps / Re: pump mods advice needed
« on: June 26, 2014, 02:27:57 PM »
Quote from: jyeager on June 26, 2014, 02:14:29 PM
From another southwind guy to another. Leave the outer strakes alone unless you want a porpous problem!!!!!! That boat is a ski boat, it will need a lot of hardware work and moving the motor around to get rid of it porpousing. I just had a talk with Chris at b1 about the exact same thing.


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This is good advise right here ^^^^.  I've also had conversations with Greg Shoemaker about the 18' Southwinds.  Like Jake say's, these are ski boats by design. You don't always want to remove all the hook out of the bottom.  Your best bet is to get your info from people who really understand how these hulls work, what hardware works, and what doesn't. In my book,  that would be Chris Starkweather @ B1, Greg Shoemaker @ GS Marine, or Jack McClure @MPD.  At a minimum talk with Fut's on PB. These guy's can save you a bunch of time and headaches experimenting.

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The No Wake Zone / Re: I guess someone's word is not enough in this world
« on: June 25, 2014, 09:08:11 PM »
I've dealt with Ernie a couple times.  Fucked me both times.  I bought a drive shaft from him that was supposed to be a HD 1350 u-joint  shaft.  I gave the money to a friend of his I know because I couldn't get there and our mutual friend goes to his house regularly.  He came back with a 1310 shaft in 2 pieces!  The u-joints were powdered.  I told him to take it back and get my money back, which  he tried to do, but Ernie refused to reimburse his own friend for the shaft.   I doubt he's going to give you any help.  He's done this to too many  people, so threats don't mean shit to him.  The guy is as crooked as the day is long.  Wish you would have posted before the purchase.  Best to just move on and build yourself a quality motor.

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Gelcoat / Paint / Fireberglass Repair / Re: Vinyl lettering
« on: June 25, 2014, 08:45:13 PM »
Cy did the cf#'s on my boat.  He's done a bunch for boats on PB. He emailed me options and I picked what I wanted.  He cut and shipped in a couple day's.   His scree name is Moneysucker I believe.  Here's his Facebook, I'd recommend him.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/CYCO-Designs/122687934455935

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: BBF 460 starter?
« on: June 25, 2014, 01:55:23 PM »
Quote from: 76NORDIC on June 25, 2014, 01:43:36 PM
   What is the F250 referring to ???

F250= 3/4 ton truck

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Projects / Re: My 83 Crusader I picked up last year.
« on: June 24, 2014, 08:32:20 AM »
Not a bad looking boat at all from the pics.  It looks to have aluminum heads and electronic ignition, motor looks clean, not all butched together.  If it is a 10-1 motor built right, potentially 500 hp is very doable, but no way of knowing without all the specs.

As far as the shifter, jet boats don't normally run a lock-out forward/reverse lever.  You use the ability to quickly "shift" between forward and reverse  to help steer in slow speed maneuvering .  Really hard for it to drop into reverse at speed.  The friction in the cable, and thrust of the water out the nozzle will keep it open, plus I know I rest my hand on the handle while driving most of the time.

The brass fuel selector switch usually has a pointer end on the handle you rotate.  It should point to the tank it's flowing from.  If you have a vacuum pump or just some hose, you can take the lines off the valve and pull a vacuum (or suck through a hose) from the carb side of the valve and hold your finger over the pull side of the valve to verify which side of the valve is open (flowing).  Off would be 1/2 way in between, or straight up and down.

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Projects / Re: 81 Spectra 20 Face lift Project.
« on: June 24, 2014, 08:12:07 AM »
Holy smokes, that's one thick ass transom!  So water test this weekend??????? ^-^  Come on down to Blythe for the 4th Hal, good place to test it out.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Marine Alternators
« on: June 22, 2014, 08:31:57 AM »
That's a basic "Delco" style alternator, commonly referred to as a single wire alternator.  Very common alternator.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Marine Alternators
« on: June 22, 2014, 08:29:36 AM »
I seriously doubt Autozone will have a marine alternator.  Like Jake said the  difference is marine alternators have spark suppression screens added. You can run automotive one for sure, but under a hatch, I agree, I would try to keep the marine one on there.  In a pinch, run the Autozone one, but don't give them yours as a core.  I would have yours rebuilt by a reputable builder making sure they understand it's a marine application, and what that means.  Or do a Google search for marine replacement, I'm sure Tom @ JBP has them in stock.

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The No Wake Zone / Re: Hallett...Someone tell me more about this thing
« on: June 21, 2014, 09:26:52 PM »
Congratulations!  I like your choice.  Joe gave you good advice, that will make a nice first project boat for you guy's. Quality boat!

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Projects / Re: 79 kachina project
« on: June 21, 2014, 07:37:52 PM »
No offense taken. I was just being a smart ass, more busting Jake's marbles than anything.  I didn't mean to imply anything negative towards you.  ^-^ :thumbup:

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Projects / Re: 79 kachina project
« on: June 21, 2014, 09:33:50 AM »
Hey Steve, now it makes a little more sense.  Your dad was telling me about your boat, and I was watching your build, but didn't put the two together.  He said you guy's were going to be at Mac for the 4th.  Not sure if I'm going to take the Ultra down on the 4th, too many idiots trying to "thin the heard".  I have a POS day cruiser I'll be cruising around in.  Now I have more reasons to cruise south and hang out.  Definitely would like to get with you and your dad  on a quieter weekend and make a few hot laps in my hot rod.
Sorry for the thread jack Carrera202, I'll  be quiet now.  By the way, awesome work on your boat! :thumbup: :beer:

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Projects / Re: 79 kachina project
« on: June 20, 2014, 10:49:34 PM »
Ya, moved my stuff down river just a bit.  I heard Hidden Beaches is where all the cool kids are hanging out now, and I always wanted to see what it's like to be a cool kid! Plus I think Steve's making commission there, he's working all the deals. 

You guy's are doing a fine job on this boat, looking forward to seeing it show up on the river.  Maybe we'll take a putt down to Mac over the 4th and say hi.

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Boats For Sale / Re: Craigslist & ebay boats
« on: June 20, 2014, 10:08:28 PM »
Quote from: KOOCHYOLOGIST on June 20, 2014, 07:19:52 PM
74 rogers BONNEVILLE
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/boa/4529745429.html


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That boy's bumped his head if he thinks a bare hull is going to get him 2g's. :screwy:

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Projects / Re: 79 kachina project
« on: June 20, 2014, 09:35:29 PM »
Quote from: carrera202 on June 20, 2014, 09:18:03 PM
thanks jake for the clarification bud this is who I am listening too and he has learned from a very reputable guy and this is how we will do this jake has been a huge help and besides Instagram this is the only site I post on I'm learning and I hope this helps others I hope it helps fellow jet boaters as well thank you all


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So I read that as "Anything that goes in that's  F'd up is all Jake's fault". I like your style here, never take blame for anything you can blame on someone else! Well played.   No pressure Jake.  :thumbup:

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Projects / Re: 81 Spectra 20 Face lift Project.
« on: June 19, 2014, 02:24:43 PM »
Shit Hal, I'm glad you're keeping this to a minimum and only doing a little face lift. :screwy:  You've been a busy boy.  This is very close to the same hull I'm doing, only mine is a Sleek Craft.  Love these cruisers.  Good Job buddy! :thumbup:

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: How much oil? Oil pan volume?
« on: June 18, 2014, 05:51:22 PM »
You can measure the pan and figure out the cubic inches, then use an on line converter to tell you the volume for fluid, but the stock dip stick is probably going to be pretty close.  Many of the production after market pans are just converted from stock pans.  Do you know if there's a wind-age tray in the pan?  I measure for oil level by filling the pan to the windage tray and mark my stick there.  If this isn't a race motor, or something you plan on turning a bunch of RPM with, I wouldn't worry about running the oil level low to pick up extra HP.  Just by looks, I would think 10 qts is going to be pretty close, including the filter.  Maybe put in 8qts, prime the engine to fill the motor and check the stick.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Big dependable HP. 496 or 540
« on: June 18, 2014, 12:24:02 PM »
You ask the question 496 or 540.  Those are to different blocks.  I would be curious what you have to start with.   That would dictate the basics of my build.  You need a block with a 4.5" bore if you're going to build a 540.  You can build about 500 ci out of a 454 block, but that's it.  I believe in the saying, "There's no substitute for Cubic Inch."  So build as big as you can with what you have.  If money is no object, then go with a Dart block and build a sweet 540 that spins about 6000 rpm and makes 700 + H.P. all day long. 

Frankly, this is the conversation you have with your builder, and from what I've heard Bostic would be an excellent choice. Then you come here and announce what you decided.   As this thread has shown, the internet is full of opinions, and they're usually worth exactly what you paid for them.

Good Luck with the boat and the build.

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Boat Showcase / Re: Dual vs Single Carb
« on: June 10, 2014, 07:35:54 AM »
Quote from: Flusher on June 10, 2014, 05:32:51 AM
Everything that everybody above said is true about the headaches of a TR setup.  Another thing to think about, if you look at PSCA, most of the quickest and fastest cars are now running a single carb.  Manifold technology has come a long way in the last ten years and there are some really impressive conventional head BBC manifolds from Edelbrock like the Super Victor II and the Super Victor CNC, by Reher-Morrison, both of which can support over 1,000 horsepower.  The added weight and complexity just doesn’t make sense.

HOWEVER, I know what it is like to want a TR for the cool factor.  Anything can be made to work with enough time, effort, and money.  The money also doesn’t stop after all the parts are purchased.  As was mentioned above, it will use more fuel and you will want increased horsepower to go along with the looks, so that means supporting parts like cam, heads, and compression which all increase operating expenses.

Bottom line, it is your boat and your money.  Do what makes you happy.  Just understand the expenses and pitfalls associated with every compromise and formulate a plan that works best for your intended use.

If you do decide to go the TR route, choose one with the longest runners with the smallest cross-section so that intake charge velocity is high.  Don’t go crazy on carb size, most people can’t tell the difference between a 450 vacuum secondary and an 850 double pumper.  Anything is possible.

Here is a pic of my family station wagon.

Cheers,

Joe

I love the vest!  That's a great picture.  Blown, injected cruiser and a 2 dollar, orange throw away.  I think your daughter's probably saying, "Seriously Dad, I'm not riding with you if you're wearing that vest!"  Safety first!  Classic.

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