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Projects / Re: Sanger circle boat
« on: July 25, 2008, 10:05:15 PM »
  It was good for me !!!    ;D   I'll just ask to talk to her from now on,  maybe you should stay in the office and let her build the boats (this Sanger might be done  >:D ).

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Projects / Re: help making a 77 sanger go fast
« on: July 25, 2008, 09:33:45 PM »
Are you planning to use EFI (spendy $$$$) ?   I have never had good luck with carbed turbos (tuning nightmare !!), but others may disagree  :-\ .

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Projects / Re: Sanger circle boat
« on: July 25, 2008, 09:16:20 PM »
 Looking good Tom,  But you guys should save some time and just take all that silly cav plate stuff off that boat, and send it to me  ;) ;D

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 pm sent  ;D

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Boats For Sale / Re: Daytona Jet on CL
« on: July 23, 2008, 07:45:59 PM »
Thats what I'm talkin bout. Hey Proppy, found your boat...Not mine don't pm me, (wish it was...)

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/766166054.html

 I want that one too !!  ;D ;D   

 There must be something wrong with that boat, its been for sale for a looooong time (think I first saw it last winter  ??? ).

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WarZone / Re: Chevy, Olds guys only
« on: July 22, 2008, 08:40:00 PM »

Your absolutely right it dont run and never will :D
2sav ::)

 Dont feel bad, the only boat that runs around here says Mercury on the motor  :banghead:  :banghead:

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WarZone / Re: Chevy, Olds guys only
« on: July 22, 2008, 08:29:51 PM »

What makes you think my boat don't run now  ???

2sav :D

 Tho reasons
 1. Its a Chevy
 2. Its yours

  ;D ;D ;D ;D >:D

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The No Wake Zone / Re: Women bashing, sort of...
« on: July 22, 2008, 12:25:53 AM »

 
The third man had married a beautiful girl from Brooklyn, New York. He told her
that her duties were to keep the house cleaned, dishes washed, lawn mowed,
laundry washed and hot meals on the table for every meal. He said the first day
he didn't see anything, the second day he didn't see anything, but by
the third day some of the swelling had gone down and he could see a little out
of his left eye, enough to fix himself a sandwich and load the dishwasher.

 I think I dated her !!!  :-\

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Projects / Re: Eliminator Sprint
« on: July 22, 2008, 12:13:36 AM »
 I scrounged up some material for the transom plates and got them cut out tonight.  I made patterns out of masonite first (same thickness) than just transferred the shape to the aluminum and cut it with my new jigsaw  ;D, (the old one died a sad and smelly death trimming the motor plates ;) ).  Still have a little more trimming to do but there close.




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Projects / Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
« on: July 21, 2008, 11:46:27 PM »
 No problem GT, I spent the night cutting out transom adapter plates for the little boat  :(, got to get that thing done soon !! 

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: HP Ratings
« on: July 20, 2008, 11:58:01 PM »
you boys ever seen a grown man naked?

WTF   ???
I think lilrick has been hanging out with beerjet  :o  ;D

 And according to the chart above I have over 750 hp !!  ::) ::) 



 Forget the fact it was a Jacuzzi YJ pump, it still had an A impeller  :sly:
 

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Projects / Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
« on: July 20, 2008, 11:41:30 PM »


I have a free box of crap for you (not literally), Its a complete ignition/charging system from a Mariner 2.5 and should be the same as yours. BTW we used to call the Black Max's B/M's ::)
  I love free crap  ;D ;D

 Motor mounts,  I cant feel any wiggles from the motor.  If i push really hard on the top of the motor the whole boat / trailer moves first.  I think these are the lower ones  ???, right , there are plastic covers over them.  They look to be solid inside ( I poked around in there a little and everything felt like metal, cant really see the upper ones


The nose cone and LWPU you need is actually for a gen.2 Alpha series drive, with some minor modification works tits.
Is this something you can do ?  I was told the lower unit on these motors was there downfall (if you break it throw the motor away, no parts available, and nothing will interchange).

BTW these things normally use about 3psi fuel pressure at the most.

 That might explain a few things  ::) (slightly rough/erratic idle), pushing fuel past the needle and seat ?

A cleaver type prop is a "transom lifting" prop and will make that tunnel really work, but a "chopper style" would make it much more driveable (makes "slop" count the same as "skill"  ;))
"Slop" count as "skill" !! That's for me !!!  But I was thinking something basic just to get an idea what the boat/motor wants.  And for me to learn how to drive this thing  ::) ( first OB and first tunnel ).  I was told something like a 28 pitch bravo would be a good all around starter prop for this thing, but I have no idea if thats right or not ??  I just know that this motor is not suposed to be able to spin high rpm like the new ones.

 BTW , Thanks for all the advice on this thing its really hard to find any info on this old timer (worse than a V8 Evinrude)

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Projects / Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
« on: July 20, 2008, 08:12:09 PM »
I'm hoping you have the 1.62:1 lower, it would make it rare but faster than hell, when you pull the lower to replace the water pump count the rotations it takes to get the propshaft to go around once (two turns = 2.0:1)

Does it have solid motor mounts? very very important...

 Thanks for the advice GT.  It takes somewhere between 1.6 and 1.7 turns of the flywheel to get one rotation of the propshaft, (not sure exactly, its been awhile) might be 1.62  :-\ .  It does shift into gear  (forward and reverse) and appears to have some sort of drive ratchet ?

 Motor mounts ???  It has motor mounts ???  Where would they be ???  You can tell I'm a real expert on OBs, cant you  ;D

 Also the propshaft is about about 3" or 4" below keel (the lowest setting on the brackets), and the lower unit has no low water pickup (cant find one for this old beast).

 Is it hard to change the waterpump ?

 A little history on this thing.  When I got the boat the owner didn't know if it ran or not (never tried to play with it), so I assumed it was junk.  I bought it just for the hull (I always wanted one).  I did a compression check and it had the same compression on all 6 cylinders  :o (+/- 10 psi).  I shot some 2 stroke oil in the cylinders and it started to even out more (haven't checked again it now that it runs).  When I finally figured out the wiring  :banghead: :banghead: and tried to start it, it ran on three cylinders  :( .  I started checking things and found no spark on 3 cyl.  After a lot of this  :banghead: :banghead: it turned out to be a bad switch box .  I got a deal on a set of used switch boxes (changed both) and it started right up ( in a HUGE cloud of smoke !!! ), it ran rough but cleared out after awhile. It does not use the fuel pumps on the motor (it has a holly blue pump and regulator, 5 psi),  and someone in the past did some modifying on the cover over the carbs.

 You now know everything I know about OBs

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Projects / Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
« on: July 20, 2008, 06:21:57 PM »
 GT, let me know what you find  ;D .    I really don't know anything about OBs or props (see user name  ;) ) , but I was told this thing is the 455 olds of OBs, nothing over 5500 rpm or it will start throwing parts (rods) at me  :o .   It had no prop when I got it and hasn't been on the water in a loooong time (at least two owners).  I did find out it should have 300 hp at 5300 rpm and is torque monster.  The gearing looks to be between 1.6 and 1.7 to one.   I just figured a 28 or more would be a good safe starting point to see what it does without over revving it  ???

 Here's a shot of the motor, its an early 80s Black Max 300, 3.4 L ,  Its a HUGE old beast !!!  It has 15 splines on the shaft and that's all I know except that it smells funny when it runs (cough, cough) and I have to premix the oil   ::) ;D  I guess it will also need a thrust washer (?) and whatever else I need to mount the prop (there's nothing on the prop shaft) ????   


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Projects / Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
« on: July 20, 2008, 05:21:05 PM »
BTW , If anybody has a big (28+ pitch) prop that will fit this (reasonably priced), let me know !!

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Projects / Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
« on: July 20, 2008, 05:14:08 PM »
 Oops, Kinda forgot about this thread (been busy with the little boat).  Here's a couple shots of it all cleaned up and running  :o :o .  I still cant believe the motor runs,  but I hooked up the batt today and it fired right up again.  I haven't done anything more to it, just wanted to update the thread.  I really need to finish that little Eliminator so I can get to work on this one.  I sat in it today (making vroom vroom noises) and I really think this is going to be a cool boat again someday. 




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Jet Pumps / Re: Ride plate ?
« on: July 16, 2008, 08:39:31 PM »
 Thanks for the info Oldsquirt  ;D .  Maybe I'll end up going with a split bowl before I drill holes in this thing too (its only money  :-\ ) .

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Jet Pumps / Re: Ride plate ?
« on: July 16, 2008, 08:10:29 PM »

Sorry bro, didn't mean nothing by that.... I understand where you are coming from. Believe me ;)

2sav

  :o :o 2sav being nice to a Ford guy  ??? ???.  Alright bro whats up , no anti Ford comment, no little Chevy's rule comment,  Are you feeling OK  ???.  Did you break/sell your motor again ??

edit: I may change my opinion if the angle on the turnbuck is past center

 Ok, Josh .  You got me on that one, what do you mean " if the angle on the turnbuck is past center " .  This is kinda what I had in mind  ??? .

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Jet Pumps / Re: Ride plate ?
« on: July 16, 2008, 09:49:01 AM »
 Someday when I'm rich like you I'll have one, but for now this has to do .  ;)

 So does anybody see a problem with the adjusters mounted like that ??

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Jet Pumps / Re: Ride plate ?
« on: July 16, 2008, 02:23:36 AM »
 No such luck  :'( , it's a JC pump (for now).   :)

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Jet Pumps / Re: Ride plate ?
« on: July 15, 2008, 11:28:35 PM »
While sitting in the garage looking at the pile of spare parts, and being really mad about my alt mounting (don't ask  :mad: :mad:).  I had an idea  :o ::) .  What do you guys think about this to adjust the ride plate ???

 I was thinking about using longer bolts for the 2 outer bowl to suction housing bolts and adding a bracket there to mount these old cav plate adjusters.


 It puts the adjusters at an angle (not sure about that), but they would be at opposite angles kinda like this \ / .  here's another shot .  What do you guys think, will it be strong enough ???

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Projects / Re: Eliminator Sprint
« on: July 13, 2008, 05:45:29 PM »
That's a great idea GT Jets !!!   I was thinking something similar but without the pipe, but I really like the idea of the pipe  ;D .   Safety first  ;) ::), just the thought of that drive shaft breaking loose and flailing around back there at 6000 rpm (breaking the pump the intake or ripping a hole in the hull) was enough for me to say I wont run it without a drive shaft hoop and a strong flex plate cover.  You never know what could happen, and I really don't want to have to send divers after my boat  :o.     

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Projects / Re: Eliminator Sprint
« on: July 13, 2008, 04:56:28 PM »
 If you mean flip the alt to the front side of the belt, I thought about that  :-\ .  But I want to make somekind of driveshaft hoop and it would have been it the way.  The drive shaft is long enough to reach the hull when conected to the motor and that scares me  :o :o .

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Projects / Re: Here's my 78 Brendella
« on: July 13, 2008, 04:47:29 PM »




WOW !!!!! That looks perfect !!!!   Now I wish new seats were in the budget for my boat  :banghead:

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Projects / Re: Eliminator Sprint
« on: July 13, 2008, 04:37:52 PM »
 :banghead: :banghead: I knew I should have called you Tom.   Anyway, heres what I came up with today from the boxes of leftover parts around here ::) .   I used one of the old cav plate adjusters I had laying around and a little chrome alt bracket from Kragens (total cost $14  ;D ).  Looks like its working ok so far .   But now I think I need to do something about that fugly old alt (nice chrome one  ;D ) , but that can wait, this ones works and it fits.





Back to the garage now to figure out somekind of battery mount and a few other things  ::)

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