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Gelcoat / Paint / Fireberglass Repair / Stringer Question?
« on: March 28, 2010, 05:03:08 AM »
I'm about to start epoxying in my stringers with West Marine Epoxy and I would like to epoxy them into place and let them set and harden so they don't move around when I start reinforcing layers of fiberglass, Directions say if it sets during layering i just need to sand the new surface before reapplying a new started layer. I want to let it set before the first layer and I read and heard and remember from years ago that restarting can make bubbles from temperature differences caused from the heat when curing. So my question is.

Can I epoxy my stringers to the floor on all contact points only, using no covering material, flair the seams, Let dry/set/harden over night, Then the next day cover all the wood with all the layers of fiberglass woven roving, mat and cloth that i will be using? With Out any curing problems? Like cracks or bubbles or warping from heat changes?

And does anyone have a preferred method of layers, Looks like the factory put down woven roving first, then mat then cloth, I'm thinking Two layers of those 3 in that order??

Thanks for your time and information it is much appreciated.    Roy


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Projects / Re: Baja 184 SS
« on: March 28, 2010, 03:45:02 AM »
Could not wait to wet sand, buff, polish and wax so I did, Just the top so far, Pics don't look as good as the job came out. Could not get rid or cover up all the sun damage on the hood but the rest of the boat looks a lot better then it did, After this season of working out the bug's and building up the pump I like to repaint the top/hood this winter. I'm not going to sweat over the cosmetics until i have the mechanics 100%.

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Projects / Re: Rays officially lost his mind!
« on: March 27, 2010, 07:17:32 AM »
Double the work, Double the cost, Double the pain, Double the gas bill. But once you see Double rooster tales and Double the "Cool" factor you will have Double the Pride and Deserve Double the Respect for such a build and that's worth it in my opinion, The Name must have a double or twin in it even if it's "Double Trouble's" Or "Twins for You to View", Cool Find and Good luck.  :thumbup:  Roy.

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Boats For Sale / Re: Craigslist & ebay boats
« on: March 27, 2010, 04:02:55 AM »

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The No Wake Zone / Re: Harbor Freight Tools
« on: March 27, 2010, 03:36:25 AM »
Well I'm going to drop the bomb of information here that no one wants to hear, YOU NEED BOTH!!!, A set of good, most the time expensive tools  for the shop/garage to handle the tougher jobs like old rusted bolts and a 6 point snap-on socket, But if I'm tightening up the same size bolt at the end of the dock over water I'm not taking my shop tools, Like others said same goes for truck tools, camp tools, That can be easily stolen. I have tools that I won't take out of this garage and I have my cheap stuff that has never been in my garage.
       Gave the ol'lady a decent self contained Craftsman set cause I know she will not need more and she will not lose any and that keeps her out of my tool chest's. If some one asked to borrow something I'd rather lend them a H.F then my Snap-On's. The right tool for the right job is more complicated then most think.      Roy.

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The No Wake Zone / Re: Funny how things happen -
« on: March 25, 2010, 04:36:39 AM »
I was born into I guess, My GrandFather started and ran his own Auto Wreckers (Junk Yard) In Pittsburgh a couple miles from the Allegheny River. My Father took me boating since I was Baby when the river waters where to polluted to swim in still in the 1960's, I use to see the fast loud jet's and V's with the pretty bikinied girls hanging all over the driver's and knew that's what I wanted, SO when I got older and was working in the "Yard" (Junk Yard) and these guy's would come in looking for parts I got to know some and traded parts for rides (I was not old enough to drive yet) In there Hot Rods and Fast boats.

So I was always been a "GearHead", I have worked and played with everything from Remote controlled car's planes to Real twin Engine Turbo Prop jet Jump Planes to Stadium Car crushing monster trucks to 2,200 H.P Off Shore Race boat. AND I still get the tingling feeling and my hair on my neck rises when I hear a built Big Block fire up. Just Love it, I'll probably die with grease under my finger nails I been told and I guess it's probably true. :)

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Projects / Re: Baja 184 SS
« on: March 22, 2010, 03:56:48 AM »
Its hard to tell.. Is the whole boat the same color as the inside of the transom? now THATS metal flake! Love it! Projects lookin good, you have alot more patience than Ill ever have, thats for sure.  :thumbup:

   Yeah it's Metal flake all over, Hard to tell since it needs wet sanded badly but it shines and glitters and I can't wait to sand and buff it out should be a huge improvement that happens this week.

And you all know I HAD to do a test patch to see how it would look the first day I started on it. You can see it right beside the tow hook, just a little rubbed out patch, It's Silver color with Heavy Silver Metal Flake and with a little hint of red and black smaller flake mixed in, I Can't wait to do the whole boat, I'm like a kid before X-mas ;D ;D :)

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The No Wake Zone / Re: Happy Birthday Chromey!
« on: March 21, 2010, 11:02:04 AM »
Happy B-Day Hope It's a great One!!

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Projects / Re: Baja 184 SS
« on: March 21, 2010, 02:29:27 AM »
Update: Been Grinding, pealing and sanding for 2 day's, Another day of it and it's ready for a wash down and glueing in sticks, I took all the support fiberglass that was holding down the stringers and other wood completely off because it was starting to lift, blister and peal off on it's own, I could of epoxied it back down but I figure when I hit some choppy water or cranking it up to speed I rather be confident then worried about it staying together.


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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: New headers
« on: March 19, 2010, 11:20:09 AM »
Huge improvement on looks, Wish I could hear it Snort!. :thumbup:

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WarZone / Re: jesse james
« on: March 19, 2010, 11:17:00 AM »
Eh, I'm not surprised when bad boyz are bad and good girls get mad, What I wonder is how good she is? There's been words about his drug use, Wonder about hers? Wonder what they do how often? She's a very Pretty and great actress and he's a cool good mechanic, The older he gets the less cool he'll be and there's tons of good mechanic so I think he will flame out then only heard about when he breaks the law, She will be heard from and keep her fame forever I believe, The inked out side slut, who cares this is her peak of fame, I'm just saying.

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The No Wake Zone / Re: SCJB Survey
« on: March 19, 2010, 06:00:39 AM »
Done, I'll do what I can to help.

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Lower River / Re: whens everyones first trip?
« on: March 19, 2010, 02:10:07 AM »
We can't get there from here, Yet. We usually don't do driving/trailering trips, I Own my own place on the Allegheny River In the First Natural pool, It's great, Jet boat, jet ski, small boat accessible but Not anything that can't do a 200 foot stretch of 2 foot deep water, Keeps the traffic low and privacy high and I'm way into that. Problem is no winter access, Even when there is it's not good boating so we just wait till it thaws then Play hard.We should be able to drive there this week or next, My driveway is still iced over.. Roy

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Boats For Sale / Re: Craigslist & ebay boats
« on: March 18, 2010, 03:47:26 AM »
This is only a couple miles from me. http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/boa/1635370952.html

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The No Wake Zone / Re: Wife G/F picture thread...
« on: March 17, 2010, 01:03:40 PM »
   "Yenz No" I grew up a few miles from "The Point" In "The Burgh" where the "Al" and The "Mon" make The "O" and that". :D That  would Be Pittsburgheise for Living Near Pittsburgh where the Allegheny River and the Monongahela  River Meet to make the Ohio.. Grew up boating in all 3 rivers, Fished for carp and catfish where the Heinz Ketchup Plant use to dump there bi-products in the "Al" We use to turn around and peddle our bikes home if we got close and smell Vinegar, The fish would be gone until they changed there dumping to something more desirable.

    Me and a lovely lady once had a few hundred people applauding us when one person noticed and told on us having sex in the water where the Al and The Mon meet at the point, mid day, wearing ski jackets only bobbing behind my boat in between breaks in the shows at the Pittsburgh Regatta, about 50 feet from shore..lol..true story, was not planned, just happened.

    At the same "Point State Park" I also once landed a parachute for a demonstration skydive for Veterans day Parade, And No I'm not a Veteran just use to skydive a lot, A little over 2,000 jumps actually. One of the most scariest landing area I ever had, Land in a 50 foot area or on people or in the river that my buddies dad died in doing the exact same jump a few years earlier, Pretty trippy. Cruising over the Burgh under canopy I will remember for the rest of my life tho, Super cool.

A buddy lost his V-drive small block Chebby "Mighty Mouse" 300 yards down the Ohio from The Point, He and the Chic He just picked up (And Met) off The point where O.K but he made us drag anchors threw that area the rest of that year when we float and party..lol.

Oh I can go on and on with Burgh Stories..lol..  Blue Skies!!


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The No Wake Zone / Re: Wife G/F picture thread...
« on: March 17, 2010, 02:36:30 AM »
Welcome to the madness that is SCJB !     Judging by the picture (big bottle of hooch front and back) you will fit in just fine.    Pretty lady too !
Congrats on 19 yrs., it ain't easy to do  :thumbup:

We have been known to put a few back ;D ;)

You made Sandy's day with that pretty comment, She has been fighting cancer for over 2 years now and she's touchy about her scars ( i call "Tough Marks") and hair loss since she's had long hair all her life, Here is a pic right before the chemo started to have it's affects. I myself think she's beautiful in every way and watching her fight this horrible disease has just greatened my respect and love for her. And another of her on the boat with her BFF, She had to start going wig-less earlier then she wanted to due to the speed wind affect.  O0.. :).. >:D..      

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Projects / Re: Baja 184 SS
« on: March 16, 2010, 07:10:25 PM »
Thanks for all the thumbs up, Grinding it out was a pain but I figure the worse part is over Cause the fun is putting it back together and building it up, While thats what I keep telling myself..lol.

I should of asked my question better, I know this boat like all boats flex, If not it would be to brittle and crack at the weakest point , What I'm asking is does anyone think I need to block/ support any where from underneath supporting the stake/ chine or hull ? Or is just hanging it from the 3 point is enough? to hold it's proper shape? I left the front part of the floor from under the dash forward in tack and I believe that also is helping a lot with holding it's form, I'm probably worrying to much and just need to finish prepping and start sticking boards  :screwy:.. Thanks again...   Roy.

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Projects / Re: Baja 184 SS
« on: March 16, 2010, 08:07:31 AM »
Another pic under the floor, It's the same as stock but with thicker wood and the main stringers being 5 inches longer.

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Projects / Baja 184 SS
« on: March 16, 2010, 07:18:43 AM »
Project is the word, Start off with Thanks, People from this site already saved me a couple mistakes, Had a couple pieces of pressure treated lumber cut out and the boat was sitting on the trailer as i was replacing the floor, stringers and the side storage area divider's. Now It's all kiln dried fir and hanging on 3 points, Again Thanks for that information.

      I Don't believe I have any hull flex going on for a few different reasons, Seems very stiff with it being kinda of a mod V with the step tec it has, When i cut the floor and stringers out there was no noticeable flex but the floor was rotted and the stringers soaked with rot on edges (pic's attached) and around engine mount holes, And i ran a straight edge and trying to see any buckles/ bows uneven crap and it looks alright to me? Very stiff, I have worked on other boats that are way weaker as in flexing, But i want more info on what to look for before i start epoxying in wood with West Marine Epoxy and the proper filler and hardeners (again thanks for that info) Question is. Is there any way I can check for sure this thing is straight enough to start sticking it together, OH Yeah, Another thing, I lengthened the stringers 5 inches to add room for any wider pulley I may want to incorporate down the road. ;D . But again this thing seems very stiff, When it was on the trailer yes it did seem like it could of slightly moves in on the side's, but when it's hanging it seems fine? Need more information/input to make me more confident tho? Any Idea's? Opinions?
 
 
OBTW, 454 that is at the machine shop engine builder. Berkeley 12JE with need of a diverter as soon as i get it in the water.

Thanks for the information I'm sure to get from you guy's and this site. :thumbup: ;).    Roy.

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The No Wake Zone / Re: Wife G/F picture thread...
« on: March 16, 2010, 02:56:58 AM »
Hello everyone, My first true post (did a test). Been lurking this site for weeks and just can't get over how great it is, So much information and a group of people I wish i lived closer to. Here is a pic of Sandy and I, We been together for 19 years this summer.

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Test / Test
« on: March 16, 2010, 02:45:26 AM »
Hope this works, I want to post pic's.

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