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Boat Racing / Re: Havasu Landing APBA Circle Boat Races 2/14-1/15 ?
« on: February 15, 2009, 08:29:51 PM »
Gary was running HIS #, CJ 187, and Louis' # is CJ 402.....Pics to follow. No racing action because of photo equipment, but this race is duly photo recorded.....

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Boat Racing / Re: Boat inspection/close class?
« on: February 12, 2009, 07:01:14 PM »
Your boat can be inspected at the race site. If you don't pass find me, I'll help you do what ever it takes to get thru tech.

 As far as "close the class" goes, that isn't how its done. Once a class is approved and on the sanction, it is a GO. IF not enough boats show up (4) for a legal class, it is not un usual for the boats that do show up to go out and race anyway. Points will not be awarded, but racers want to race. New drivers want/need seat time. Veteran racers can always use a little more "testing"......It is not necessary to "close the class". APBA will either receive race results from a legitimate race, or they won't.  It is too late to even attempt to "close the class" for this race. Actually, in two decades I've never heard of any class "closing" because of low boat count, or lack of advance interest by the  racers.

 Imagine, if you will, 4 boats on the road from Florida right now. All 4 are CJ boats that saw the printed sanction and decided to come race. :o :o See, you can't just "close the class" because you don't think there will be enough boats. Big picture guys, big picture......

Brad, IF, (a big IF) you were running a Chevy I would have offered to loan you an engine so you could compete. OR IF I had a Ford, (another big IF), I would have offered you an engine for this race. Trust me Brad, there will be nothing shady or edgy when it comes to SAFETY and new/inexperienced drivers. NO un safe/illegal boat will be allowed to compete. As the guy that sells suits says, "I guuaaaarantttee it". No I'm not a race or class official, but if I see something un safe It WILL be addressed thoroughly.....That, you can take to the bank.....Lets have some fun this season guys. Lets show APBA and the IE racers that CJ is the "real deal"......I think its great you guys can help each other and make decisions as a group. (SoCalJets), but APBA is the big picture here and you've got to start thinking "Nationwide".............Ray

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WarZone / Re: Trickle down
« on: February 12, 2009, 12:15:41 PM »
I have to agree when you stress to buy from the "little guy" vs the corporate chains. I saw Albertsons here in BHC close because they couldn't compete with wallyworld, (walmart). Several retail clerks, (union) were put out of work. Now back up to what made this country what it was. The Mom and Pop stores within the neighborhoods......It was/is stores like Albertsons that put Mom and Pop out of business!!! Places like Home Depot cause small hardware stores and lumberyards to fold. The local "service stations" that employed high school kids have been replaced by self serve gas/convieience stores ran by foreign investors and their relatives. BUT, everyone wants to pay less!!!! Paying less takes volume inventories. I try to buy from the independents, but at what additional cost to me?......How many "hurting", "out of work" Americans drive foreign made cars?.....How many union retail clerks shop at Walmart? Enough. Rant over, Ray

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Boat Racing / Re: Big picture
« on: February 12, 2009, 11:56:02 AM »
Looking at the big picture, and yes, since CJ is no longer a "local" class, it has to be considered part of the big picture. CJ is now a national class. That means nationwide, CJ racers are gearing up to compete. I can speak from "class filling" experience that it is done everywhere, in most classes, on a regular basis. If some of the CJ racers choose not to run a specific event, so be it. The race will go on with, or without you. As a group you are no longer a local club, you are part of an APBA class. The "original" group can do whatever they chose, but believe me, the racers in other national regions will do what ever it takes to make their CJ races APBA point races. At this stage of the season points seem far away, but towards the end of the season they all count, and you can't go back and "do over" any races you chose not to run. Once the CJ class is placed on a sanction it can be an official race if 4 boats take a start on a given day. If the SoCal group decides not to run they are in reality, just deciding not to run.

The Pro Stocks are on the sanction but we, PS89, chose not to race this one for a variety of reasons. I hope any other PS boats that want to race have a class. BTW, this IS the very first race we have pulled out of in twenty plus years.......And as a "racer" it was really tough to do. It is what it is. ;D ;D.....Ray

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Boat Racing / Re: havasu race ?
« on: December 21, 2008, 12:42:45 PM »
Thanks.  Racing all 3 days or just 15 and 16?

APBA web site shows Feb 14 and 15. No racing the 13th or the 16th................Ray

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Boat Racing / Extra Bluewater room
« on: November 26, 2008, 03:22:49 PM »
Well, once again a member of our party waited until the last second to puss out. I now have a room I can't cancel for Thurs/Fri/Sat nights.....$49/$79/$79. I tried to cancel and its too late...................  Anyone need a room? ..........Ray 805 300 0012

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Boat Racing / Re: Who is Ready for the 2009 Circle Boat Season?!
« on: November 09, 2008, 05:24:09 PM »
Could they have picked a worse weekend to have a race . Some of us , even as spectators , have thanksgiving dinner with our families at home and quite frankly , I'm not going to get all hopped up on turkey and risk my life driving out there . Unfortunalty you have a great point Ray .

-beerjet-

Yeah, Thanksgiving weekend makes it tough for a lot of people. I personally can't remember a turkey day weekend anywhere else in the last couple of decades. It was really cool when they ran kilos on Friday and raced on Sat/Sun........But time marches on, enjoy your turkey and family get together....Ray

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Boat Racing / Re: Seriously, who is ready
« on: November 09, 2008, 03:24:31 PM »
OK guys, now is the time to plan on the Parker season opener in November. If you're thinking this race is not important, I can tell you it is the START of our region 12 season and this year, '09, APBA will recognize the CJ class for National High Point honors. Those of you running NJ, still a local class, but growing fast, come on out and gain these all important available points. I know a couple of racers were talking about taking the year off due to several different reasons, the majority of which is this shitty economy. Think about this: If you change your mind in February because your outlook is looking better you can't go back and run Parker retroactively. Parker is important. Parker is the start of the season. And,  just think, you'll all be in the top 5 or 6 of APBA points for the 3 months prior to any other region starting their season!!!...Could even lead to some sponsorship if used as a selling point.......I look forward to seeing all of the CJ boats make a good showing at Parker. Remember, APBA is watching.....See you there, Ray   

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Boat Racing / Over and out
« on: September 25, 2008, 09:36:33 AM »
ray, you are such a HYPOCRITE!

you came up to me and said you didnt condone jims actions reguardless of what happened out on the course, but now youre thumbin your nose at me about illegal roost!. Illegal roost? PENNALIZE ME! I even told the officials to do so but they didnt have one bit of an issue with it...even then it wasnt intentional - GET OVER IT. Even if it was intentional, and I really did intentionally roost jim, cut him off, and almost crash into toby  ::) ??? ::) what right did jim have to shout obscenities to me and his own crew, then come put his hands on me? the guy is a hot tempered poor sport. his boat is a pile of shit that got lapped by 5 boats in a 4 lap race and he cant handle his temper in a professional manner.

Now heres my advice - get your damn nose out of this class. You have no business even talking down to anyone about this class. You continue to do it and it just makes shit worse. do the class a favor and get lost!

Yes Brad, I did say I didn't condone Jim's actions. He was out of line with both outbursts. I also don't condone you taking this little issue up the ladder. You should have just walked away, kept your distance and let things cool down. As I recall the POLICE were actually called and charges were considered. That is exactly what boat racing didn't need as we're already on thin ice with the LB city council. Now this issue has telescoped into something it really didn't need to be, and because of it the CJ class has one less boat coming to Ming at a time when your class really needs boats. You were wrong to try the angled nozzle, Jim was wrong to react the way he did, twice, and the officials were wrong to look the other way about the hose down. So we have all these "wrongs". Some one needs to step up and do the "right" thing, and put this issue totally out of the picture. There have been other "discussions" between drivers, (about a dozen in 20 years), but those drivers were man enough to keep it between themselves and not create a bunch of drama by getting SCSC/APBA involved. Gee, all of this would have been over in an hour, cooler heads would have prevailed, and CJ wouldn't have a blimish while under APBA's microscope.......And yes Brad, I shall now remain quiet, and say no more on this subject whatsoever........Ray

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Boat Racing / Re: beismeyer circle jet
« on: September 24, 2008, 11:01:55 PM »
Ideally I'd like to buy one bare . No one seems to want to do that though . Not to mention that he never put up his phone number in the thread or the PM he sent back . Who is Art Anderson anyways , Sounds familiar  ???

-beerjet-

Gofastracer over at PB, or Riverracer at V drive.com......Art lives in Mesa Az and helped me with the PS89 boat in 04, and the PS52 boat in 07. I know about the B jet, and it is a cool boat, ex ski racer from Havasu days, SJ4, and Art recently aquired it..........

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Boat Racing / in the seat
« on: September 24, 2008, 10:57:54 PM »
NO! What's a shame is that the racer you speak of doesn't know how to handle himself in a stressfull/emotional situation.  I was on the ramp and in the pits, I saw the whole thing go down, front row seat so to speak, he was out of line. End.

Were you also in the seat of the boat that was hosed down with the ILLEGAL nozzle? This whole thing is totally out of whack to what actually happened. What I see in the future of CJ racing is a big zero. APBA has probably decided already that they don't need this class, a class that is hard pressed to fill a class. Read the rule book, a class that has less than XX boats in the previous year will be discontinued, and this class hasn't even been re instated yet. I also had a front row seat to the illegal parts that created this whole deal. The events that happened afterwards were so minor that the racers involved COULD have just let it slide, but no, lets make a huge deal out of it and blow any chance that CJ had to be reinstated. The class is dead due to low boat count, and low boat count is associated with lack of dedication. Read the rule book about illegal parts that gain a performance advantage and the fines and suspensions that go along with cheating. Officials that look the other way over certain things that certain people do are useless to this sport. There have been a few "altercations" among drivers this year, but this was the only one that seems to garner any attention. Sadly, this is the one APBA will look at when they boot the class, kinda like shooting ones self in the foot......

So, luckystiff, tell me all about your involvement with APBA all these years,  tell me about all the races you've attended, all the boats you've built, crewed for, or actually raced.......Why don't you come see me at Ming so we can bench race about all the good times at the races??...............I'm crackin' the brews Friday night in the PS89 pit, this is an open invitation to all here on SoCaljets to stop by for a cold one, and we can talk about next years Nostalgia Jet class.........And Nathan, bring your ski boat, I'll get you on the water...Dave Chandler, (PS855, Mead Snake),the ski racer guy, is bringing his ski and looking for a tow after the days races are over............Ray

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Boat Racing / Pit entry
« on: September 24, 2008, 08:21:51 PM »
i going to ming im a virgin to baot racing! can anyone go in the pit area?

Yes, the pits and the "gate" are wide open. You could even bring a pleasure boat out and pull skiers after the days racing is over. Its all free, and you can even hang out with some of the "prop" boat people. Come by the PS 89 pits and introduce yourself, my name is RAY, and just about anyone can point you towards the "ol guy"..........Hope to see you there, and see below.........

To the CJ racers, this event is critical for APBA consideration about next year. If you can only field 4 or 5 boats it doesn't look good....It is a real shame that one of the most supportive racers is sitting this one out, almost like the class shot it's self in the foot over petty and personal reasons. Maybe Nathan72 could borrow some safety gear from someone that has a broken boat and get a real taste for CJ racing!!! Hey, another boat is another boat, and you NEED boats.............Ray

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Boat Racing / Re: beismeyer circle jet for sale
« on: September 24, 2008, 07:54:16 PM »
Art Anderson has one for sale minus motor with logs and OT exhaust. (maybe headers too), I forget how much for sure, but I think its like 3K on a dual axle trailer. Good solid boat with decent original yellow gelcoat.......He ran it at Needles this past weekend, give him a call............Ray

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The No Wake Zone / Re: Floats
« on: September 04, 2008, 10:37:04 AM »
OK, first off, with the bowl inverted, meaning upside down, set the top of the float, (actually on the bottom now), parallel to the bowl. That is very close. Now turn it over and check "float drop". Make sure the needle can drop out of the seat, and there is a number for this measurement. This is adjusted by the "tang" which actually stops the float drop before the needle can get off center and hang up. Sounds like you're finding things out for yourself. Dual carbs are bitchen, but do require a little more work to get them dialed in............MP

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The No Wake Zone / Re: Towing problem
« on: September 01, 2008, 02:03:43 AM »
Mid range performance can be a lot tougher than WOT. A tube really loads the motor and requires more power than un loaded flat out. Which dual carbs are you running? I know I have found every Edlebrock AFB/AVS type carb has the floats set too low out of the box, and a heavy load requires more fuel than a WOT charge un loaded. The toughest test of performance is a mid range, medium RPM, heavy load. Kinda like expecting you freeway flier to perform with the "E" brake on........MP

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The No Wake Zone / Re: Breathalizer
« on: August 27, 2008, 01:18:59 AM »
Anyone that likes a cold beer or other alcoholic beverage while on the water should invest in a hand held breathalizer. It is important to note that these changes in the law, actually the penalties associated with OUI/DUI, are based on what you blow. You do not need to be visually impaired, nor do something stupid or dangerous on the water to be tested during a checkpoint stop. If someone in the crowd had a handheld breathalizer at least you could wait until your blood/alcohol is below .08 before heading back to the ramp. As a very loose guess, a person of "average" height and weight can consume about TWO beers in an hour and be very close to .08, THREE in an hour and you will blow the number required for a reservation at the stony lonesome for the evening. This is NOT an exact science, so don't assume you're OK if you only have TWO, as everyone is a little different...........Play it safe, wait until you're safely on the trailer before cracking that cold one, OR have a totally sober person do the operating. Have fun, be safe, and count on many checkpoints along the highways and waterways this holiday weekend.........MP

 Oh, and vest up, everyone in the boat at any speed while on plain, especially the kids. I know, I know, its hot, and vests can be uncomfortable, but you can't control what the other boaters do........

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WarZone / Re: Need help on how to "legally" annoy my nieghbor.
« on: August 26, 2008, 12:01:04 AM »
I like the little chick idea. Film it and you can laugh your ass off every night.

The little chick could be the key. Only make it a little girl and photo chop him into a child molester situation. Some of the guys here are real good at photo chopping, but you will need a picture of HIS face. Have you subscribed to any porn rags in his name at the other neighbors address?.......Lousy neighbors are one of the most irritating things we face, and sometimes the hardest to deal with. Remember to keep smiling, in fact SMILE at him every time you see him, smile and wave, it'll make him wonder what you're up to, and confuse the shit out of him........Good luck, and SMILE a lot...........Ray

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WarZone / Re: Need help on how to "legally" annoy my nieghbor.
« on: August 14, 2008, 10:55:42 PM »
have him move to a apartment complex you have to leave the pool at 10 pm sharp

What?........MP

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The No Wake Zone / Re:" Made for it" cap
« on: August 14, 2008, 10:54:35 PM »
Any decent parts store will have a "made for that purpose" rubber cap. Standard fare for multi use water pump applications. Different year vehicles had different heater hose systems, but basicly the same water pump. So, the rebuilders reduced inventory and supplied that cap to cover different applications. Maybe in the "help" product line isle. It just looks like a large vacuum cap....."A piece of heater hose and a BIG BOLT!!" c'mon, this is a boat, you can't be doing $hit like that on a boat!! Not in plain sight anyway!!!!!! ;D ;D.......MP

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Boat Racing / Re: Drinking permit
« on: August 14, 2008, 12:00:27 AM »
Ah , these youngsters will learn Ray. :banghead: ;) Hay, where did you get that permit, cuz I forget. (Rhymes) I'll get one for sure. Oh , maybe the ranger that collects the money on test day sells them.

Parks dept headquarters in town. About a 10 minute trip........On site rangers do not sell them. I should also note here, INSIDE a motorhome or camper, or trailer is cool, outside, even an ice chest with beer in it will get you a ticket, and they DO LOOK inside if your chest is OUTSIDE............Be safe, have fun.........Ray

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Boat Racing / Re: Drinking permit
« on: August 12, 2008, 09:21:51 PM »
leave it to ray to throw in the rule book as usual

cant we just have fun? isnt this what its all about?

shit, ill bring ya a bottle of whatever you want to ming if ya leave the rulebooks at home.

Brad, it is a $250. fine to POSSESS alcohol at Ming on Thursday WITHOUT a PERMIT. Once we roll into SCSC having the lake it is not a problem......A lot of racers,and non racers are un aware of this BS rule. If preventing someone from getting a BS $250. ticket is throwing the rule book around, the rule book COULD be a good thing, and the difference of some one having a good time, or a bad time.........Ray


PS, Rick has drank on MY permit before, I was just reminding him to go to town and get a permit if he is going to camp, and drink, on Thursday, or Thursday night........

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WarZone / Re: Amanda Beard olyimpic swimmer/ hottie
« on: August 12, 2008, 12:19:26 PM »
Isn't she like, 41!!!! :o!!!!!.....Super hot, but that one face angle makes her look like a horse..... ........MP

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WarZone / Re:Legality
« on: August 10, 2008, 09:52:50 PM »
Just be warned that any loud noise, be it a un muffled boat, a lawn mower at 7am/9:50pm, a loud stereo, or anything that could be considered "Disturbing the peace" is in fact, a crime. Regardless of the time of day, (I always thought there were certain hours when noise was OK, I was wrong), and could get you a summons to appear in court to answer the charges. I see several ideas about his vehicle. Some of which could result in a lawsuit you could lose. Best idea, and it is done from the outside of the car, is Limberger cheese in the air vents/cowling vent. Shread it up into very small pieces and dump it down the vents. Hot sun will do the rest. Be sure to clean up any residue on the outside.......AND, spill some sugar in the street or driveway next to his gas tank. DO NOT sugar the tank, just make him think someone did. He'll probably have the car towed and drained, at his expense, only to find nothing......Another "pain in the ass" trick is plastic coated playing cards in the gas tank, (a little tougher with the un leaded flapper deal), 6 or 8 cards will just float around in there until the pump starts sucking. Then the cards gather around the suction, block the fuel flow, engine dies. Without the suction the cards re float, car starts, goes a few miles and it all happens again.........Do not do anything that damages property, or creates an un safe condition that could result in injury. Harmless pranks are one thing, just don't get caught. I personally like the Limberger cheese in the vents, about the only way to get rid of the stench is to burn the car.........You can also spell out "DICK" with super grow grass additive. The "dick" part will out grow the rest of the lawn without doing any real harm.......MP

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Boat Racing / Re:Circle speeds
« on: August 09, 2008, 07:20:27 PM »
The Nostalgia jets, (and all nostalgia classes) , are held to a limit of 80 MPH. GPS in each boat is checked and excessive speed results in a lap penalty. The Comp Jets are not limited and I seem to remember Ralph cranking out some low 90 MPH speeds down the straights. The other classes run from the low 100s to mid 130s.........It is not the speeds as much as it is the water conditions that make circle races a lot different than the drags. 6 or 8 boats, side by side screaming into turn one can really get hairy :o. The water is a real mess by the 2nd lap in any of the classes. We circle guys like to say that anyone can build a 1/4 mile motor ;D, try making one live for 5 miles, flat out!!!!!! Come on out and get hooked on circle racing. It is very addictive, a real sickness, and there is no cure...... :screwy:......Ray

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Boat Racing / Re: Ming fun
« on: August 09, 2008, 03:02:40 PM »
Lake Ming is a much larger area for the pits. Very spread out with pit camping during the race weekend. KCPD collects a camping fee, but the pits become a small city on Friday and Saturday nights. Lots of food and soft drinks ;D, cause none of the boat racers drink the hard stuff :screwy:.......Ming is usually a great time, plan on attending.............Ray

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