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Jet Pumps / Re: Steering is hard with engine running
« on: June 06, 2013, 08:21:30 PM »
No I do not have any pictures. It is stiff in reverse as well as forward. The steering gets stiffer with increasing rpms. It has also been the same after changing o-rings. I do not know what the bowl vanes should look like or if they are worn. I do remember from my last rebuild the vanes on the impellor side of the bowl are not straight. More like a concave toward the bowl. It gets very tiring turning while pulling tubers or turning alot at speed.

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Jet Pumps / Steering is hard with engine running
« on: June 05, 2013, 07:21:43 PM »
I have a 20.5 Advantage Classic closed bow with a AT-309 pump with hydraulic turbine trim. With the engine off the steering feels normal, but when the engine is running and in the water the steering gets very stiff. I have replaced the stock steering with a rotary unit and no change. I even replaced the entire steering and trim set up with a new unit, no change what so ever. I have routed the steering cable different ways with no change. With both of the steering systems with engine off it feels like every other jet that I have ever owned or driven, but put it in the water and fire it up it becomes a chore to steer. Any sugestions? It has been driving me crazy.

Thanks. :banghead:

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What size cable would you use? Would you drill it for a bulkhead type of cable?

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Jet Pumps / Can you change hydraulic turbine trim to manual control
« on: May 31, 2013, 03:32:50 PM »
Has anyone ever converted hydraulic turbine trim to cable operated controls. Looks like you would need a different arm where the ram hooks up to install a cable operated system. Tired of the slow pump and the hassles of bleeding the system. Cable seems faster and less maintenance. Any and all opinons are welcomed.

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Lower River / Anyone going to Blythe for the 4th?
« on: July 03, 2012, 02:19:40 PM »
Heading down tonite thru Sunday be mostly at Goose Flats.

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Lower River / Re: Blythe this weekend anyone going?
« on: September 08, 2011, 04:29:39 PM »
If you see this boat stop and say hi and have a beer with us.

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Lower River / Blythe this weekend anyone going?
« on: September 08, 2011, 01:19:11 PM »
Had such a great time last weekend, so I'm going again this weekend. Anyone else going this weekend? Will be hanging at Gooseflats. Look for red and black Advantage.

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Lower River / Re: Heading to Blythe tomorrow afternoon
« on: July 14, 2011, 09:40:02 PM »
We will probably be at Gooseflats.

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Lower River / Heading to Blythe tomorrow afternoon
« on: July 14, 2011, 09:21:04 PM »
Anyone going to be out this weekend?

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Lower River / Re: blythe this weekend??
« on: September 02, 2010, 05:04:19 PM »
Putting my pump back in the boat tonight. Leaving tomorrow afternoon.

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Jet Pumps / First time American Turbine rebuild
« on: June 24, 2010, 05:02:28 PM »
So I disassembled my pump and noticed on the impeller side of the bowl the leading edges of the vanes are very rounded and worn. My question is , are they supposed to be sharp? And if so can I grind them with a die grinder to sharpen them and to smooth out the casting? Is it worth the time doing this or should I just leave it alone. The pump is an AT 309 in a 20.5 closed bow Advantage Classic, with a mild 454 BBC, 10-1 comp mild cam lighting headers. I lost the thrust bearing and ate up the impeller pretty badly, got lucky no other damage. Shaft is straight and there isn't any bluing, the suction housing doesn't have any wear. Which is surprising considering how bad the impeller is worn. I will try to post some pics. Any help will be appreciated, I am trying to get it back together for the fourth. If I don't get it back together I will be floating at the river regardless. I guess I can drink more beer then. 

Thanks again,
Pat

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Jet Pumps / Re: American Turbine wear ring question
« on: June 24, 2010, 04:32:53 PM »
Just did mine yesterday. Heat the wear ring up with a propane torch just as rubber liner starts to smoke, and pull out with bent screwdriver as stated on American Turbine website. I was surprised that it was so easy. I disassembled my pump completely in about two hours including thorough cleaning ready to be reassembled. This was my first time attempting to do this, it is very simple. Good luck and take your time.


Pat

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Jet Pumps / So I Wasted My American Turbine This Weekend
« on: June 21, 2010, 08:11:53 PM »
Pump made some very bad noises and locked up. Took pump out off the boat this afternoon, front seal was wasted and ball bearings fell out. Tomorrow I hope to pull the impeller and inspect everything else out. What do I need to look for before rebuilding it? This will be my first pump rebuild, would like to try and get it done for the 4rth. Any tips would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks, Pat

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Lower River / Re: heading to Blyte todat anyone else going ?
« on: June 21, 2010, 08:01:07 PM »
I think I saw you at Goose Flats on Sat. I pointed your boat out to my brother in-law, very nice boat.



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Lower River / Re: heading to Blyte todat anyone else going ?
« on: June 21, 2010, 12:28:43 PM »
Got lucky I guess, with the weird noise my boat made and the way it locked up I thought the motor was toast. Looks like it was the jet. Metal shavings in the boat near the grease zerk. Getting ready to remove the pump from the boat after lunch. Hope to have it repaired for the fourth.

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Lower River / Re: heading to Blyte todat anyone else going ?
« on: June 19, 2010, 07:46:42 PM »
Great day on the river! Except loosing my engine, and being towed back. But it is all good!

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Lower River / heading to Blyte todat anyone else going ?
« on: June 18, 2010, 09:59:57 AM »
Getting ready to head out. Probably be down at Goose Flats. Look for red and black Advantage.

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Lower River / Re: Anyone going to Blythe for Memorial Day Weekend?
« on: May 27, 2010, 03:52:38 PM »
If youn see this boat give us a shout! The beer will be COLD!

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Lower River / Anyone going to Blythe for Memorial Day Weekend?
« on: May 27, 2010, 07:43:56 AM »
We usually hang above Mayflower or go down to Gooseflats.


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Interior / Re: Looking for good company to do interior
« on: May 22, 2010, 09:16:02 AM »
Martinez in Corona, they do a great job, great price , and deliver ahead of schedule. They did a great job on my Advantage.

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Jet Pumps / Re: american turbine jet is growling?
« on: April 29, 2010, 04:27:31 PM »
Thanks for all of your comments. The pump is equipped with a turbine trim without a droop. Also the noise gets louder when the pump finally grabs and starts pumping. The top speed is down from 64 mph to 56 mph on a hand held GPS.  I have gotten four good years of boating on this pump since the last rebuild. Most of the time has been split between Parker and Blythe. Approx 350 hours since the rebuild.
I am going to pull the pump after this weekend. Would a droop help my advantage 20.5 classic closed bow gain more speed? Thanks for all of your help. Patch

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Jet Pumps / Re: american turbine jet is growling?
« on: April 28, 2010, 08:56:10 PM »
Also if I idle for to long or in a no wake zone for more than a couple of minutes the motor starts to get warm? The gate valve is all of the way open.

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Jet Pumps / Re: american turbine jet is growling?
« on: April 28, 2010, 08:52:05 PM »
I grease the u-joints every other trip, along with the thrust bearing. I grease the zerk inside of the noozle after every outing.

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Jet Pumps / american turbine jet is growling?
« on: April 28, 2010, 08:22:35 PM »
I have an Advantage 20.5 classic with an ATJ-309.It is growling and when it is put into water it takes 30 seconds or so to start pumping. It has been four years since Tom Papp rebuilt it. Is it the bearing closest to the motor? Never messed with rebuilding a jet before and would like to do it myself. Any info is appreciated. Thanks Patch.

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The No Wake Zone / Re: SCJB Survey
« on: February 22, 2010, 06:05:02 PM »
Done

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