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Boat Racing / Re: Riggins Idaho Whitewater races!
« on: February 21, 2009, 06:42:08 PM »
Anybody from SCJB that drives and comes all the way to Portland b4 turning right - I will buy you several cold adult beverages. I am right off I205 on your way between I5N and I84E.

Specially YOU GT!!!


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Jet Pumps / SKF PN for Berk Thrust Bearing
« on: February 21, 2009, 06:11:33 PM »
Anyone know what the SKF (or other major brand of bearing mfg) part number is for the pump thrust bearing? Item #32 in the OEM Berk parts diagram.

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Trailers / Re: towing through Oregon and Washington
« on: February 20, 2009, 09:02:00 PM »
There's only a couple of minor differences:
1) Our freeways only have 2 lanes.

2) In Oregon, for some reason we almost drive at the speed limit. Just a little over, nothing at all like SoCal where they arrest you if you are going under 100. Once you get to Wash, it's back to faster again. I've never figured out why the thing about driving mellow in OR.

Enjoy the wetness!

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The No Wake Zone / Re: Over analyzing
« on: February 18, 2009, 08:16:13 AM »
Geese are devoutly religious. In their goose religion, it has been handed down through the ages that "thou shalt not gaggleth in odd groups." Goose historians believe this to mean that the flock always has to have an even number of geese in it. Since they are in a > formation, one goose has to be point goose and that leaves an odd number to fill out the flanks. Therefore there will be more geese on one side than the other.

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WarZone / Re: The texture through me off a bit......
« on: February 15, 2009, 05:07:31 PM »
Either he just did his first oyster shooter, or.... I'm going to have to fire up the Gaydar :-\

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The No Wake Zone / Re: A question of brands..
« on: February 10, 2009, 07:04:45 AM »
Electro - you've probably already seen this site:

http://www.classicglastron.com/

I don't know how reliable it is, but according to this site it sounds like their factory was in TX, which would explain why there are so many more of them mid and eastern side of the continent.

I've been trying to track down some photos of two CV23's here in the Portland OR area. There's a guy who has completely restored one and is trying to give the hull and trailer away for the other. He posted on Craig but now it has expired.

If I take my boat addiction to the next level I think I'm going to go for a CVX20. Keep feeding us all details about your CV23. I agree that this branch of their product line are really nice boats!

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The No Wake Zone / Re: respect your load....
« on: February 09, 2009, 12:19:35 PM »
That probably did not have a happy ending.

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Jet Pumps / Re: Jet Pump Dyno
« on: February 06, 2009, 10:02:51 PM »
It seems like the Engineers, Designer, R and D departmets of said manufacture of pump would have to have such a device to collect data or improve on a product. Or at lest something similar to what you guys are thinking of shouldn't they? Not that thay would ever tell you how to make one.

I called 10 places around the US and even called the US office of Hamilton. They all said they don't have a pump dyno. American Turbine has an impeller dyno. So they can tell you how much shaft power an impeller absorbs - which is very important of course... but it is not the same as inside a bowl and with water getting sucked, rammed and who knows what else up the intake, through the impeller across the wear ring over the stator vanes down the throat and blah blah.

Now I may have been getting sandbagged by some of them that I called but I tend to think not. A real pump dyno that could properly deal with the flow rates of a pump and then recondition the water and get the air out of it and back into the inlet at simulated hull speeds of 100mph would be big, expensive and very tedious to operate. And we would have heard about it. There are of course some very large and fast water tunnels in the US.  But these are usually academic/government operated and not rigged to do jetboat pumps all day long.

Jack at MPD told me what he was told of the story of how the Berk company developed their pump and they most certainly did NOT have much in the way of test equipment. They were doing what we do now - use the assmometer.

So the most fascinating thing for me about all this is that it would appear that nobody really knows whether a jetboat pump is 50% efficient, 75% efficient or 99% efficient (at converting engine shaft hp into thrust hp).

PS  - I've got $1 that says they are not 99% efficient!  ;)

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: MPH ???
« on: February 06, 2009, 03:55:23 PM »
  also I just had a droop and diverter put on !! reverse gate?? whats this??
Quote

Wild idea. What kind of reverser lever do you have? Is it by itself or part of a combo gas/reverser lever?

You said you had a diverter installed, right? That means the reverser bucket/linkage is new to the boat (even if it's used equip). The Place diverter bucket geometry and travel is "different" from what the boat had before. If you have a combo throttle/reverser control lever then maybe the reverser bucket is opening all the way but stopping the throttle cam/linkage in the control lever from going further an letting your motor rev higher.

Ask me why I suspect this and what I've been doing for 45 minutes!  :sly:

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WTB / Re: Fiberglass scoop
« on: February 05, 2009, 01:41:55 PM »

Coolio........

Remember im a broke ass jet boater ;D

You can put the word "broke" anywhere into "ass jet boater" and it still makes a lot of sense.  8)

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Wireing diagram
« on: February 04, 2009, 12:02:52 PM »
http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=2326.0
Man, why couldn't I have found that thread a year ago! Those diagrams are really nice!

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Morse Control Rehab
« on: February 03, 2009, 07:30:27 AM »
I've got the single lever dealio that runs both the throttle and reverser cables. I'm replacing my cables and thought it would be "fun" to check out the lever's guts. My boat is 74 vintage and I've owned it since 96. The entire time I've owned it I just accepted that this lever was hard to use. As I was removing the old reverser cable I noticed that the lever was still real stiff. Then I unhooked the throttle and no difference - still stiff.  :sly:

I found two "interesting" things inside my control. First, the 1974 grease had turned into petrified wood or something. Wherever it was just laying around inside the housing it was still soft and slippery. But on all the contact surfaces it was dark gray (metal oxidation?) and stiff as kicked resin. Second, the spring and detent ball on the throttle shaft were way, way, way too stiff. This was at least 75% of my trouble with the stiff control. I could not believe that Morse had it setup this way. I ended up cutting the spring down 1/4" more in length and only then would it function like I think it was supposed to - making a nice behaving detent and still creating some friction to hold throttle position steady.

Cheesh what were they thinking?  :screwy:


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Projects / Re: 1984 MANTRA project
« on: February 02, 2009, 03:04:52 PM »
Still unable to find FIR lumber in the state of Indiana, don't know what to do....anyone have any ideas?

http://www.bearhollowindiana.com/kilndrylumber.html
ash will work. poplar too. maybe the hickory.

http://www.benderlumber.com/our_products.htm
I think the stuff they list under premium grade lumber/standard lumber will work.

And there's always Home Depot/Lowes. They usually have both kiln dried and construction grade. Just tear through the entire pile and hand pick the best boards you can find... I'm usually the next guy after you trying to figure out wtf happened to the pile!!!

Good luck!

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Control Cable Fitting
« on: February 02, 2009, 08:01:00 AM »
Anybody ever tried using one of these for the clamp/bulkhead/grommet/strain relief/connector (did I get all the names?) where your roost/reverser cables pierce the transom?




I'm just looking to try something different and get a unique look to my boat ass.

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The No Wake Zone / Re: Bigger is Better?
« on: February 01, 2009, 12:23:58 PM »
in this "sleepy" market not much demand , Things like this are relegated to small entreprenuers and "Joe six pack"  working on his/her own .

Yeah if we want new kindza pumps we have to figure out how to either
1) start a war where they got lot's of rivers 
2) get some jet pumps on the NASCAR circuit
3) solve the oil crisis with a jet pump

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we use a wet dry vac (necked down )

Suckin or blowin?  ;D ... and on what part of the water lines?

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SCJB is probably not got a lot of need for this but with so much experience lurkin on the boards I want to ask:

I was checking out my buddy's modern riverboat and he's got a handy spot on the front of the motor with a tire valve that allows you to blow out the cooling water (I think - or maybe its for the trailer tires... :sly:)

I think I'm going to plumb one in. I've got a single 5/8"ID line running out of my block back to the rear before splitting on a tee into the snails. If I put a ball valve in there and tap a tire valve onto it, I should be able to close the ball valve and back blow everything upstream allllll the wayyyy back to the bowl.

The two good things about doing it are it makes winterizing another step easier. And if I had it I would then use it after every trip to purge out any sand or salmon eggs.

Anybody have a downside? Anybody have a similar setup?

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Boats For Sale / Re: $ sale 1975 Saguaro jet boat
« on: January 28, 2009, 07:31:06 AM »
Not quite, now i get to fix the Eliminator....

The cracks in the pumps intake...

Just curious 2sav, where on the intake are the cracks? Are they big enough for photos? I'm only asking because I like learning about the weak points. Thanks man.

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Boat Showcase / Re: My new boat....76 hondo bbf/wj
« on: January 28, 2009, 07:27:51 AM »
How the hell didja get it for 950???? Whats wrong with it?

I'm jealous!! Even if something IS wrong that's a nice price!

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WarZone / Re: I love YouTube
« on: January 26, 2009, 10:39:37 PM »
Now I need the ultimate - one of those furry cow babes blowin a cow pie out their awrse. Then I will have truly seen it all on this site and I can get back to workin on my boat!!!

 :screwy: :screwy: :screwy: :sly: :screwy: :screwy: :screwy: :sly: :screwy: :screwy: :screwy: :sly:


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Hulls / Re: Am I nuts????
« on: January 26, 2009, 09:53:54 PM »
this boat is in southern Oregon right now.

Oregon = no sales tax = practically free then.
Let me know if you need someone who can speak Oregonian - I'm like the real deal - a native.

Anyhoo back to your post. Thanks for stirring up the feces on the site. Alloy hulls and the whole white water mods are going to eventually give the glam/lam boats we run a big kick in the awrse.

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Hulls / Re: Am I nuts????
« on: January 26, 2009, 09:34:58 PM »
No, dude you are NOT NUTS. GT you don't have enough hulls. You NEED MORE HULLS!!!! (Hey - I like goofin around with some of these extra format buttons.)

Absolutely you MUST BUY THAT FUGGIN BOAT!!! (Hey is that sal.... sallll.... salt water in the background???)  :sly:  :sly:

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: MPH ???
« on: January 25, 2009, 09:30:36 PM »
It has been my experience (but never my fault) that even 6 feet of rope will result in an engine speed of 4 grand and a forward speed of appox. 1 mph.    Gotta luv the usually easy fix.

Ya, Glasscutter is right, even a duck turd in the impeller will drop the boat speed to nuthin. You probably don't have anything inside the pump that's not supposed to be there.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: MPH ???
« on: January 25, 2009, 08:25:15 PM »
How can you tell if the under floor is wet ?? and how do you stop it if thats the issue??  :sly:

One day many, many years ago I was puttering around on my boat in the driveway and looked closely at the floor (I have a false floor over the top of the stringers). I noticed what seemed like white spidery mold under the resin and cloth. So I took either a spade wood drill bit or a small hole saw and made a small "core sample" of the floor. Soppin wet with little critters crawlin around (boat aliens I guess).  :screwy:

I probably should have yanked anything I could off the boat and hauled the hull to the dump. But instead I decided to "redo" everything. When I cut out the stringers they weighed about 100lbs each (full of water) and the flotation foam was another 200lbs of water. Tearin out was fast and easy. Putting it back together just took another 11 years.... :banghead:  :banghead:

Most likely your slow speed is something other than evil water in the hull. GT's got a good list of the likely suspects for you. He's even got a great story about some ski rope instead of a dead cat in the pump...

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