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Hulls / Re: Fresno Hull?
« on: January 02, 2011, 03:41:38 PM »
 NO NEED TO YELL ABOUT IT !!    :sly:

 I havnt heard anything bad about the Fresno Boats hulls.  But I think they where a heavier layup than some others and more of a family lake boat kind of deal.  If its in good shape It should work fine for just about anything you want to do, unless your planning on building an all out race boat. 

BTW, there was also Belmont boats, and I think a few others that where made here in Fresno, and one in Clovis too.     

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Project Boats For Sale / Re: 1984 hondo picklefork
« on: January 02, 2011, 11:25:10 AM »
Not my boat.   I was just trying to help the guy sell it by offering to buy the motor from whoever might want just the boat.  The owner Jose (smknjoe) never responded to me here or anywhere else I tried to contact him.   My guess is he sold the boat local but who knows.    My offer still stands -- I will be glad to take the motor off of someone's hands for $1500 +/- a bit.

 I Emailed him for some better pics of the boat and never heard back from him.  I guess selling it isnt high on his list of things to do.  :sly:
 Was thinking to take you up on your offer for the motor.

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Hulls / Re: Fresno Hull?
« on: January 02, 2011, 11:18:05 AM »
Yea,  Sanger is a small town just southish of Fresno  (unless the recent rains have washed it away). But the Sanger boat factory is in Fresno.

 
Sanger Boats, Inc.
3316 E. Annadale Ave.
Fresno, CA  93725

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Who told you that Berkleys are "far superior" to a Jacuzzi ?   What makes the Berkley, Dominator, etc, style pumps more popular is the availability of aftermarket performance parts (loaders, droops, etc, etc).  In stock form I dont think there is a noticeable performance difference between a Berkley and a Jacuzzi WJ.
 But dont get me started on the Jacuzzi YJ.  :thumbdown:

 As far as why you see different pumps in the same boats, some companies would let you order your new boat with whatever you wanted in there (even an Olds motor).  ;)  ;D 

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Hulls / Re: Fresno Hull?
« on: January 01, 2011, 09:56:31 PM »
cough, cough, after 1969, Sanger boats where and still are made in Fresno.  ;D

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The No Wake Zone / Re: 2011 New Years Resolutions
« on: January 01, 2011, 12:34:42 PM »
I don't like making promises I can't keep but this one should be doable.   I have 3 boats.  I want to have everything working on at least one of 'em.  Is that really too much to ask.

 hahahahaha,  that would be cool.  I dont think I've ever seen a boat where everything worked.  I'll be happy to get one of my 2 on the water and moving under its own power.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Modern Ford motors
« on: December 31, 2010, 08:50:41 PM »
 Thanks Tom, I would be interested in seeing a shot of the front mount if possible.  I've seen the HEI style ignition kits, as well as ones that mount to the front of one of the valve covers, and MSD makes a module that will run the factory coil on plug system without using the factory computer.

 There was a company called Karkraft that sold alot of cool parts for the 4.6 and 5.4 motors. Adapters that allowed the use of SBF intakes, blower (671) manifolds, ignition systems, duel carb upper manifolds that used the stock lowers (like what you refereed to). They had tons of cool stuff, but I think there gone now.  Cant find them anymore, but I do see some of the stuff on Ebay once and awhile.  
 A pic of there duel carb upper manifold, just saw one on Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FORD-5-4-CARBURETED-MODULAR-LINCOLN-8V-MANIFOLD-/390274629263?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5ade2e3e8f

And the intake adapters http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FORD-4-6-MODULAR-CARBURETED-INTAKE-MANIFOLD-/320630773195?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4aa71555cb
 A single carb upper manifold  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FORD-5-4-CARBURETED-MODULAR-LINCOLN-4V-MANIFOLD-/320634459939?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4aa74d9723

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Boats For Sale / Re: Craigslist & ebay boats
« on: December 30, 2010, 10:13:36 PM »

Dayum Proppy

I wish i was in Cali cause it would be mine.

by the way how have you been ?


 You want it Steve, give me a call and I'll go get it for you.  I knew you always wanted a Ford powered boat.  >:D

 Hurry back buddy, you where good at motivating me to get things done (I'll show that 2sav how to do it right).

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Modern Ford motors
« on: December 30, 2010, 10:00:59 PM »
Ok my .02. These Cobra guys are making good power and real good torque down low, albeit most of these guys are boosted in one form or another. Most of these engines are lighter than other stuff out there are readily available, many factory alum blocks you just have to look around. There is a guy on another board who put a 6-71 on a 4v with mega squirt and makes pretty good power. He did it with a drill press and a skill saw. EFI is really the way to go with this as well. Turbo guys are really flogging these motors with something in the realm of 30psi of boost. Pretty cool in my book. I fixed an intake manifold for a guy who was making 35psi of boost. This thing was nuts to say the least, and what is cool is that my work stayed together.... ;D
T.J.

 You talking about the guy that put one in a FFR 33
http://sites.google.com/site/arrowheadshotrodsite/Home/reinstalling-blower---9-10
http://sites.google.com/site/arrowheadshotrodsite/Home/thats-it-for-now---910
 That thing is mean looking  :thumbup:

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Boats For Sale / Re: Craigslist & ebay boats
« on: December 30, 2010, 12:40:32 AM »
 Reading this made my head hurt, but its not a bad looking boat for $2000.  Looks like full stringer hull.
http://fresno.craigslist.org/boa/2135530617.html

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Modern Ford motors
« on: December 29, 2010, 10:42:14 PM »
Mat,
  That price thing is a bitch.  I was just looking at what 32 good valves will cost, plus 4 cams, a rotating kit, oiling system, and all the other internal parts to make the thing a good HP friendly long block (lots of parts in these things).  And like you said, then theres all the externals, headers, intake for the blower, oil pan (all need to be custom made). Not to mention what a good machine shop will charge just to do the heads on a 32 valve V 8 (thats alot of work).

 But I'm not giving up on the idea, there has to be a way to make this more cost effective.



 
The triton v10 weighs in at 640lbs...thats less than the 460...but why waste your time on it...those things wont even keep a spark plug in...why not get a viper v10 making over 500ponies? And have already been ran in boats? The all aluminum 4.6 with a blower would be your best bet...kind of off topic but doesnt josh from jbp have a 400 plus inch ford sb in a jet making good numbers?


 Less than a 460, hmmm.   From the searching I did it looks like the plug issue shows up after someone changes them. I saw that you should never remove a plug from one while the heads are still hot/warm, it screws the threads somehow.  Always use anti seize on them and dont tighten over 15lbs of torque.  But it is an issue, I saw a post on some forum from a Ford tech that they are told to not change plugs now unless its absolutely needed.  They must have cast them with that same Aluminum/marshmallow material that the "Mexico" heads on the V 6 I took apart where made out of. :sly:

 Oh yea, and dont you think I have enough problems in my live already without you trying to make me a Moper owner.  :screwy: ;D

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Gelcoat / Paint / Fireberglass Repair / Re: Rub Rail?
« on: December 29, 2010, 01:38:39 AM »
 Here you go bro, click the link and call Tom.  ;D  http://www.jetboatperformance.com/


 Save the number, your going to need it again.  ;)  He can also send you everything you need to rebuild that WJ pump yourself.  And he can usually get parts sent over here into the valley in a day or two if there in stock. 

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Project Boats For Sale / Re: Project Boats on Craigslist
« on: December 28, 2010, 09:43:24 PM »
 This is one of the strangest things I've seen, old woody set up for OB.  But look where the steering is, its in the back seat.  Crazy OB guys.  :screwy:
http://fresno.craigslist.org/boa/2133601989.html

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Project Boats For Sale / Re: Project Boats on Craigslist
« on: December 28, 2010, 09:22:31 PM »
72 Sleekcraft.. Trailer looks worth it! 700 bucks. http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/boa/2123381109.html

  ::) Dont be lookin at things like that !!  Get out there in the snow and put yours together.  :sly:

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Modern Ford motors
« on: December 27, 2010, 08:26:55 PM »
 Nope, MK 8 was Lincolns version of the T bird.  Like this  http://fresno.craigslist.org/cto/2109666460.html

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Modern Ford motors
« on: December 27, 2010, 07:54:00 PM »
Were NOT disusing diesels here (yuck  :screwy:).  But, out of curiosity any idea what the gas V 10s weigh ??

 It looks like I'm getting an early all aluminum 4.6, 32 valve motor soon, actually its a complete car, Lincoln MK 8 (bad trans and bad air bags).  Anybody need any Lincoln parts ? 

 This is going to be interesting, and Ironman is going to have a fit figuring out how to make a front motor plate for this thing.  I bet he looks at it, shakes his head and stops answering my calls.  :-\

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The No Wake Zone / Re: chroming aluminum intake
« on: December 26, 2010, 10:03:39 PM »
 I was asking a local guy about that too, he had a few tips.  The parts really need to be perfect to come out nice (no pitting or typical cast aluminum nastiness).  You also need to be careful when bolting it on, use nice smooth washers under all fasteners with a touch of grease or anti seize so nothing can dig or gouge into the part. Because the aluminum is soft, a bolt when tightened can dig in and crack the surface of the chrome leading to chipping and flaking.  At least thats what I was told.  ;)

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Modern Ford motors
« on: December 26, 2010, 01:09:50 PM »
was this :beer: close to puting a v10 in a project. hull was junk! gp for it!

 Any idea what the V 10 weighs ?  I cant find much info about them.  I'm sure ignition would be an issue with them (extra cylinders), but it would be high on the cool factor. And the displacement is there. 

 Anyone have any info that would make these motors (V 8 or V 10) "un boat friendly".  I have seem some talk about them spitting spark plugs, and heard something about some oiling issues with the early ones (small oil passages ?).  But the Mustang guys seen to have figured them out and are building insane power with them. 

 This just has to be workable, I thinks its time some modern technology came into the Blue oval boat camp.   

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Projects / Re: Project SuperJet
« on: December 25, 2010, 11:21:51 PM »
Damn I've mannaged to hijack my own thread :banghead: :mad: oh well whatever works right.

 You go start a new thread for that boat, were talkin cars here now.  ;D
 I do know what your talking about with the seating position (built for funny shaped little Italians), but there not as bad as some of the others.  Ever tried to contort yourself into the seat/torture rack of a Countach ?  :screwy:

 And dont get me wrong about the 914s, I had a 71 and really liked it.  Except for the complete lack of power, lack of room for a decent tire, and marginal breaks.  Oh yea, and the heater that would steam the window whenever you hit a puddle.  I miss that car.  ::)

 I'm thinkin you should just give "someone" and great deal on that broken down old Pantera instead of dumping a bunch of money into something your not comfy in.  ;)

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Modern Ford motors
« on: December 25, 2010, 10:59:19 PM »
 I've seen more and more of the Chevy clan going with those newer LS whatever style motors.  So, lets say "someone" just cant get excited about building his BBC for his project and wants something different.  Lets also say this "someone" would rather stay in the Blue oval camp than join the Chevy clan. 

 What are the ups and downs of the modern Ford motors ?  This "someone" can get his hands on a 4.6, 32 valve, MK 8 motor really really cheap (all Aluminum).  And has looked at the 5.4 Lincoln 32 valve motor (iron block/heavier).  And even the V 10.

 Why am I not seeing anyone using these motors in boats, like the Chevy guys are with there new toys ?  Is it just there physical size thats holding them back, the 4.6 is as big as an old Hemi, I'm told.  Or is it the lack of displacement ?  Lack of "off the shelf parts" to put it in a boat ?

 In my "someones" looking he has found stand alone ignition boxes (no need to keep the computer) and even one set up the puts a dist on the valve cover. So ignition is not a problem.  Carb intakes and even a blower (671) set up has been seen and doesnt look all that tough (how hard can it be  ;)).

 What do you Ford guys think, is it time to show the Chevy clan that modern Ford motors can work in a boat too ? Or is this "someone" missing something here.  :-\

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Projects / Re: Project SuperJet
« on: December 25, 2010, 08:08:57 PM »
 Yea Yea forget about the boat lets see more of the Pantera !!  Even stuck behind a boat you cant hide that from my eyes.   I've had a woody for those things ever sense the 70's when I got my first ride in one as a kid.  Pissed my dad off to no end that I loved them so much, he was a Chevy/Corvette guy.  The best of both worlds if you ask me, Italian supercar style and American (Ford) power/noise.  ;D ;D  Someday I will have one !

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Projects / Re: Project SuperJet
« on: December 25, 2010, 10:57:17 AM »
 Guy is showing pics of his boat and all we care about is the cars in the background.   :-\   :screwy:

 BTW, what is that in front of the boat ??  Pantera ??  And with all those cool cars around there, why does the 914 get garage privileges.  :sly:

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WarZone / Re: ^ < v
« on: December 25, 2010, 01:49:59 AM »
^  really, really needs to get back into racing
<  is still up, watching "Bad Santa" and waiting for the jolly fat man to bring boat parts.
V  has to pay for Bobs new boat

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WarZone / Re: ^ < v
« on: December 22, 2010, 12:12:08 AM »
All of the ^ have to much time on there hands.  :screwy:

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Electrical help!
« on: December 18, 2010, 07:16:12 PM »
  Well, let me explain clearly here...

  at power tour '10... Saturday it ran fine, just belt for altenator issues, it would jump off of its pulley. so I had that fixed by drove down to Yuma for new belt.. and spent rest day at the power tour no issues, radio works fine, igintion works fine.. then next morning (sunday) went back out.. works fine, no issues.. starts up sharp and quick.. runs smooth.. parked at the island with rest... 2 hours later took off gave two guest an feeler of my boat up the river, and back to the island.. no issues at all.. then parked for 6 hours.. yeah had radio on since tom was listening to his CD (im deaf).. all of sudden it just shut off itself.. so i turned the battery control switch off... and turned it on hour half later to have water pumped out.. it pumped fine... hour later getting ready to leave.. turned battery switch on to battery one.. does nothing, my key igition only turns the coil on and starter.. so I thought maybe battery one was dead. switched to battery two.. still same thing.. then used both on.. nothing still.. so i took my voltage tester (yes I do have it stay with boat) shows 12.200 volts on both battery, and fat hot wire from battery to the starter too.. then to the ford solenrid, shows 12 volts, then tested the power wire to the fuse panel behind motor block above the driveline cover.. shows no sign of power at all.. every fuse is fine.. checked for ground, loosen them and shake it around, tighten it again.. does nothing still.. My gagues will not show any use, even the RPM which normally goes to 1k when you click to start then back to 0 if its trying to start until engine has fired. it didnt even do that at all. lights didnt even work.. only hot wire goes to dash is from the fuse panel, and everything else is also powered to the dash from fuse panel. theres no batery goes striaght to dash or igition key. I did tested the igition with hot wire from battery, it works fine.



  So this guy who helped me hot wire the coil to keep it running said he thinks and postively thinks its the solenrid? I guess I will buy one for 60 bucks and see if it helps??

 And just where is this wire coming from ?  Please dont tell me its the only wire on one of the big terminals on that solenoid, and the other big terminal is coming from the starters "fat red wire"

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