How do 35 people look at this without making an offer?

Y'all must be cheap bastards.

 I'll give ya $10 and 3 M&Ms for it.  Does it come with those hose clamps ?  

 WOW, I cant believe its been 4 yrs  , I had to go look at the date I joined to be sure (I missed a few months at the start).

 Great job Brad, 








 Did I see something about free stickers ?? 

 That stuff looks like it needs more cookin, better toss it back on the BBQ for a bit. 

 Or better yet, bread it and drop it in a deep fryer.   

75, your killin me here.  I want it, but I've got sooooo much other stuff to buy (for the BBC) before I should even be thinking about the BBF.     Why are these deals never around when I NEED them. 

double-d, Ive been looking for this for you for a bit and finally found it.  Heres some more reading for you,  http://www.performancemotorsportsnews.com/newsdisplay.php?newsID=177 .  Its an article called "the Practical Olds" written by Tim from TUFENUF MARINE PERFORMANCE (AKA  TIMINATOR on here), not sure why, but he hasnt been on here in a long time, maybe he dont love us anymore.    There is great info about the Olds motors in there, there inherent issues, how to deal with them, and parts recommendations (look at the section about intakes).

for the guys with dual carbs, are the mech or vac secondaries?

its a dual plane upper manifold so that sux.  Maybe I'll get my precision sawsall out.

Checked the plugs and they all looked pretty close in color but the ones in the back looked more rich. Definitley not what i was expecting according to what was said.

New vac gauge on the way.  So when I run this sumbitch, I should be looking for the lowest amount of vacuum when i romp on it from dead stop or cruz on the primarys then floor it? Obviously its not vac at max rpm. Or do both say something about engine performance?  I'm diggin into a holley carb book tonite to find out more on manifold vac.

double D
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 quick olds and I both have 660s, there mech 1 to 1 (prim and sec open at the same time, kinda like mini Dominators).

 As far as I know Offy never made a top that didnt have the divider, even my duel 4 top has it.  I dont think I would cut it out, its already suffering from a lack of velocity in that plenum because its to big.  Cutting the divider will make it worse (IMO).

 Back corners rich would indicate an overly rich mixture.  With the low RPM your turning the mixture is sitting around to long in the plenum (lack of velocity, because its to big), the fuel is heavier so it settles to the lowest point (the back of the plenum).  I would leave the mixture alone, its better than running the fronts lean.  And thats what will happen if you try to tune for a good mixture on the rear cylinders.  If you where running higher RPM (moving more air/fuel through the plenum to increase the velocity) and the mixture was a bit leaner, then you would start to see the lean corner/ rich center issue.

 Vacuum at max RPM will tell you if the carb is to small, a carb thats to small for the motor will be a restriction and have a higher than normal vac reading.  But thats another area of debate that I'm not going to set foot into.  Because the rules seam to change when a tunnel ram is involved.    Think about the fact that quick olds is running 1320 cfm of carb on a tunnel ram and turning around the same RPM as GT mentioned with a Victor manifold and 850 cfm.  Tunnel rams are different animals and like lots of cfm (IMO).

 I think (IMO) you might get a few RPM gain (not to mention better fuel distribution) by switching to a Victor style manifold or even a good duel plain and the 850.  Then work on the pump set up to gain speed.  Theres more to gained speed wise with the pump set up than by just adding RPM, and the Olds will be happier.  What has been done with the jet (besides the conversion), loader ? droop ? diverter ?

 Another thing just to think about, when I first put the single 4 tunnel ram on my old boat it lost 150 RPM compared to the duel plain that was on it (same carb). Once I got the duel 4 top and 660s, then the motor came to life.  Thats why I hate those manifolds sooo much.

 

Wait...are those the GM crate motors that come with a stopleak tablet in each side of the block water pump passages to seal up leaks?     I worked for GM too....

LMAO...

Yep, same ones...Ever try to get the Bars Leaks to stay in a marine engine? 

GT

    WTF,   You know after reading about all this sillycone and such on head bolts, I'm about ready to toss my BBC into the back yard and just buy a blower manifold for the BBF.  Where else is this Cheby going to ooze fluids from ? 

 Whats next, JB weld for head gaskets ? 

Single carb tunnel =    Just my opinion 


GT

 Yea, thats kinda what I was gettin at.  If thats what he has, its a HUGE plenum to try to feed (for lack of a better term) with a single carb, not to mention the funky flow to the corner cylinders. 

 Not sayin thats you problem, but if I remember right those manifolds wanted a big carb. 

Who do you suppose is the more consciencious worker?   The Mexican who has an indoor, air conditioned, nice working conditions job that pays better than most or these guys who know the UAW will back their every mistake with bulldog lawyers?

 I'm not going to argue with you about the UAW.

 But if there going to out source the parts, why not send the work to a company right here in this country that can use the work.  It makes NO sense to me to send work to other countries when there are struggling companies right here in this country that could do the job (and would be happy for the work).  Not to mention all the unemployed AMERICANS that would like to have that job.  If your plan for the evolution of this society is correct "Every society evolves from agrarian to craftsman to manufacturing to developer of new technology".  Than Mexico better start building a border fence of there own because the unemployed manufacturing class in the country is going to be swimmin the river.

 Support your country and buy American products, if you can find one. 

It's kinda surprising that the post has been up for an hour already and no one has told him to buy a Ford.



It shouldn't be long now . . .   

 You have no idea how many times I typed "Buy a Ford" and deleted it.  Its the new me, I'm tryin to be nice now.   

 I'm sure the experts will come along soon and give you few recipes / suggestions.  I think there in shock right now, its not often that someone comes along with actual realistic expectations for speed.  Usually people want to know why the stock truck motor they put in there boat wont push there 21' daycruiser to 100 mph. 

Why should an American company with sales all over the world, only make cars in the most expensive place in the world to do so?   If the unions were not guaranteeing $40/hr to push brooms and clean toilets in Detroit, they might not have to, but reality says building here makes them uncompetitive price wise.  Robots do most of the work building cars nowadays anyway.   History is cyclical.  Every society evolves from agrarian to craftsman to manufacturing to developer of new technology.   We now leave manufacturing to China, India, Brazil, Korea etc. as it is too expensive and environmentally challenging to do it here any longer.  Let others do it so that we can concentrate on suppling the world with new technology that can be developed few other places.  That is the key to staying ahead of the rest.  We did it most recently with the internet and personal computing.  Now we need to focus on what is next.

And you can count on Obama to be focused like a laser beam on the problem.      What could go wrong?

 Why ??  Its called QUALITY !!  You can develop the best and newest technology ever imagined, but when you send it to some crap country to be made all you end up with is a very technical POS that wont work or last.  And a hundred cheaper copies of it, that they sell for half of what they charge you to make yours.